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what the hell is up with the music!?


the songs in the movie don't fit with what's happening on the screen... really weird, and tasteless; *beep* 'adult-alternative' songs are completely out of place with rape and voyeur.

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and what type of music would you say is rape appropriate? whats a good rape soundtrack??

i thought the music was great

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well, a more dramatic or dark score...

score; not a corny alternative song.
or at least an instrumental song.

totally out of place. it really bothered me.

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i don't think one should have to be told by musical cues whether or not something they're watching is dark and disturbing.

the fact that you were bothered by watching a rape scene probably isn't such a horrible thing.

i thought it just made the whole scene much more effective and disturbing

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i just have this thing that if i don't like the music in a film, or see it as fitting with the whole context i automatically can't fully enjoy it.

maybe there's a problem with me.

rape in film doesn't bother me, hell... i think irreversible is a masterpiece. ihchi the killer, i spit on your grave, a serbian film, i saw the devil, a clockwork orange, the devil's rejects... i think all of those are awesome films and i'm not put off by them having rape... it's not that.

maybe i just don't dig 'adult-alternative'... i find very upbeat lyrics going "you will see that i'm right!" very distracting while i'm watching something that's supposed to be disturbing.

but well, i suppose that the music is not the biggest problem with The Woman... I love May, Sick Girl and The Woods very much... They are all very stylish, very beautiful tales of horror, and that's the reason i watched this; because of Lucky McKee... The Woman has bad acting from almost everyone, ugly ugly cinematography just very bad lit and lazy...

a big letdown...

But to each his own.

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that's fine everyone reacts to things differently.

btw I also think Irreversible is a masterpiece (one of my fave films) and I wasn't so much saying that you were put off by rape but in my opinion for a rape scene to be done properly it should be somewhat disturbing (like in irreversible).

Was just trying to say that maybe that particular feeling of you being put off by the out of context music was what the director intended, to make the scene that much more uncomfortable.

anyway to each his own, you clearly like a lot of awesome films

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I agree about the music. It felt so out of place at times.

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I couldn't disagree with you more. The acting was fantastic. Pollyanna McIntosh should have won an Oscar for her portrayal as The Woman. The music was a perfect counter-weight to the film...pure genious. Sick Girl was a piece of *beep* I never even finished it...not because of the direction but because of the incredibly boring story and pathetic attempt at black humor.
Also, the cinematography in the Woman was fantastic..everyone I showed it to commented on the beautiful scenery, and the camera work was ingenious. Also, this movie was so much better than May, May seemed like a school project compared to it. This movie was a classic, and it will be around a lot longer than you will.

Law? WHERE'S THE LAW NOW!!??!!-Burt Reynolds; Deliverance.

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I agree about the music being out of place. I too was put off by the music and while I didn't like the film as a whole, I thought the only good thing about it was the acting, which was great from everyone involved except the teacher who was the only one who really sucked.

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el_anarchy, I felt the same way, when the music kicked in, it sounded like a very intermediate local bar house band. It was jarring and took you out of the film.

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This is a different kind of movie. It's not trying to glorify what it shows as much as it is sending a message. Sorry it doesn't fit in as well with the rest of your torture porn.

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I'd say there probably is something wrong with you. If you enjoy watching rape scenes and they don't bother you, you should have loved this music. If watching a rape scene with dark, dramatic music, or adult alternative doesn't make you uncomfortable, what would? Adult contemporary? Show tunes? I think you should seek help. Sooner rather than later.

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If you want to hear bad cues, listen to "The Outsiders", the version that Coppola put 50's songs
right over the top of dialogue and regular score. There are parts where you can hardly hear
what people are saying. And there is just plain goofy 50's pop songs in places where horrible
things are taking place. However, putting music in scenes that are dark, but as long as that music
is dark in some way, I have no problem with.

Think of Movies that use Queen heavily, suck as Flash Gordon, or Highlander. Do that today and it
would sound ridiculous, but looking back at those classics, to use anything else would have just
ruin those movies...

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I totally agree. It didn't fit the tone of the movie at all. And to those that argue that it was meant to be that way for contrast, well, that could justify playing anything in a movie because it might be for contrast. In this case I think it was just random and out of place. I think the movie could have been improved by a more interesting score, instead of the random songs that were chosen. Just my humble opinion, of course.

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That's the whole point, bud. The music was supposed to throw you off and I think it works quite well.

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"Fat Bottomed Girls" by Queen.

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Irony... look it up.

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Irony not working... Look it up.

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How about contrast? Dark and disturbing music seems a little on the nose for a dark and disturbing scene. Seeing as how the entire movie is a deconstruction of the what you see and what you get with this family, it stands to reason that the tone conflicts with the content. And if the music added a layer of 'wtf' rather than guiding the viewer to specific emotions, I think it did its job.

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the score was rocking and if u dont know about the concept of contrapuntal music then just get the hell out of here, wont ya?

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that is not a 'score'...
they are corny american douchebag songs that reek of the 90's some 20 years too late.

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Pretty sure there were two instances where there was a score. Or at least two instrumental only songs, no lyrics, but I'm pretty sure it was a score.

only YOU can prevent PG-13 slasher films

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The songs are great....too bad douchebags don't dig it! May and Sick Girl both stank beyond recognition..the Woman is a masterpiece.
Law? WHERE'S THE LAW NOW!!??!!-Burt Reynolds; Deliverance.

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that is not a 'score'...
they are corny american douchebag songs that reek of the 90's some 20 years too late.

I was on OP's side as far as freedom to like what he wants until that comment. First of all most American's love music from Canada, Ireland or England (for example). Hell, the Rolling Stones, Led Zeppelin, U2, the Beetles??! We don't sit around bashing other countries. We love traveling abroad. We clearly love culture hence our very varied ethnicity based country.

Are the Doors an American Douchbag band?

I can't stand bigoted people who group a whole country together.

Always be yourself. Unless you can be Batcatt, then always be Batcatt.

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Yeah, I absolutely loved the music for that reason. I thought it was great!

only YOU can prevent PG-13 slasher films

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Try watching Cannibal Holocaust. THERE is where this type of juxtaposition works. This movie, "The Women" is virtually ruined by the soundtrack. The choice of musical cues and type of music does not create contrast, it creates lack of art. Obviously, everybody has their opinion but this use strangles and destroys the film. This is probably the first film I have ever seen where the music DID ruin the experience. There are parts where the music is so over dramatic and the scene leads to absolutely nothing and then clown show music is inserted in places where tension is building. It should be noted that sometimes there is no need for music. Every second of a film doesn't have to have noise or music.The fact that people all over the internet have been complaining about the same thing should tell you something.

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"it creates lack of art"

What ...?

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And it is obvious that you just didn't get it...went right over your pointy little head...poor you!

Law? WHERE'S THE LAW NOW!!??!!-Burt Reynolds; Deliverance.

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Here, here!!!
Law? WHERE'S THE LAW NOW!!??!!-Burt Reynolds; Deliverance.

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Seriously; look it up. Your original post actually describes it.

I thought it worked very well.

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I thought the music was annoying and distracted from the movie.



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The ending song was way to happy for this movie that I can say for sure!!!

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The ending song was AWESOME! You are full of gargage!
Law? WHERE'S THE LAW NOW!!??!!-Burt Reynolds; Deliverance.

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The music was pure genius...counter weight to the scenes it played, it really injects good ole white bread Americana into each perverted act...awesome!

Law? WHERE'S THE LAW NOW!!??!!-Burt Reynolds; Deliverance.

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The music is credited to Sean Spillane and almost all of the individual tracks are his as well.

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His music was great in the movie. I knew I recognized that sound. He was in Arlo, a band I listened to in college.

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I find the use of the music pretty odd, it gave the whole thing some strange indie-vibe. I can't say that I liked it at all, but it created an pretty unusual tone.

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Just can't agree more. I was watching the movie with my boyfriend and both of us were so annoyed many times at the music, it was all over the place, unsuitable at many scenes.

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They tried doing something different with the music and I guess it's gonna work for some people and not for others. For me it worked. Also, I thought the acting was pretty good.

I didn't like everything about the movie, but I thought that it was good overall. It seems most people either loved it or hated it judging by a lot of the comments in this forum.

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Music was annoying to the point where I wanted to thrash my PC speakers at times.
Only thing I hated more than the music was the movie itself.

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Music was annoying to the point where I wanted to thrash my PC speakers at times.
Only thing I hated more than the music was the movie itself...this statement shows you suffer from...amapthalmia! And have a turd for a brain as well!
Law? WHERE'S THE LAW NOW!!??!!-Burt Reynolds; Deliverance.

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As someone who has just screened and awarded the film at an international film festival, one of the things I explained to the audience was that the film is very much a black comedy. The music and editing do not fit the story but it is done on purpose. In fact, it adds to the comedy as much of the film is seen through Cleek's eyes.

The perfect example is when he first finds the woman. The song that begins to play is what Cleek is hearing in his head, as he is strangely attracted to her. The music is Cleek getting off watching the woman wash herself but the picture is truth and what we see is not attractive whatsoever. Our senses kind of get confused because the music is reminiscent of what would play in a 70's or 80's film when the main character would first see and fall for the "hot chick" in a movie.

It's all part of the comedy which is why I loved the film and will continue to do what I can to support it.

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I realized this on my second viewing. Bar The Tree of Life, I haven't been so jazzed about a movie since Fight Club. Most people who hate this movie are either overly disturbed by it, or just don't get it.

Law? WHERE'S THE LAW NOW!!??!!-Burt Reynolds; Deliverance.

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You have excellent taste my friend! I was fortunate enough to have made good friends with the producer and cast of the film. They are working on a new film that starts shooting next month called 'Jug Face' and the screenplay is very original and twisted as hell. Though it's not being directed by Lucky McKee, which is where I believe the artistic merit of The Woman came from, I am hoping the director, Chad Crawford Kinkle, will be just as artistic in their approach to the material.

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I totally agree. the music makes you understand better his sickness.

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