The two guys were forced to kiss each other.
Good ole homophobia
I count six shots.
I count two guns!
Wow really? That's pathetic. Of course I'm sure those same people were more than okay with the girls kissing though. Such ignorance...
shareThat doesn't count as homophobia
shareWell, I'm just going to thoroughly say it like this:
I understand that some members of the LGBT community are tired of seeing straight relationships in movies/TV all of the time. And while the kid's act was a bit immature, on the contrary, there are also many straight people who just don't want to see much LGBT situations/individuals on screen either. I think that all humans should be represented. Albeit, if you've noticed, almost everywhere you look these days, there is heavy promotion and display of LGBT stuff within the media and Internet due to the same-sex marriage controversies and whatnot. Seriously, there have been numerous movies lately such as Ted, The Sitter, and now this film (to name a few) throwing in homosexual characters and situations into the mix.
Another example:
Green Lantern was recently relaunched as a gay superhero in 2012 (might be old news to some you.
Source here - http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/06/05/green-lantern-going-gay-to-help-boost-stagnant-comic-book-business.html
Not to mention you also currently have Ellen, Anderson Cooper, Family Guy, Modern Family, The New Normal, Glee, the Obama Administration, the "It Gets Better" campaign, most of the LOGO channel, MTV, news outlets like ABC and CNN, the Showtime Movie Channel, most Colleges/Universities, nearly the entire entertainment industry, and endless other series/networks and groups/sites in favor of both mentioning and virtuously giving the LGBT community a prevalent platform, accompanied with intense support, to inform the masses about their issues.
I don't want to be perceived as an insensitive conspiracy theorist when I state this, but I think the reason for much of this massive LGBT exposure that we see everyday is due to people being pressured into being more tolerant and must incorporate heavy Liberalism and feminism into their beliefs/customs, as well as the generally now-Liberal biased media promoting their own beliefs with strenuous financial backing from Liberal elites and groups. I am not Conservative by any means (the Conservative mentality is outdated and ludicrous for the most part), but nowadays when you do not share the exact view of the "liberated" masses, most of them will insult you to no end and often falsely label you as a "conservative old sh!thead" and much worse, or say things like "it's 2013 bro, not fvking 1513".
While I think it's nice that the LGBT community is receiving some recognition, it honestly seems like many things are currently being bombarded with LGBT issues. For instance, many shows have at least one gay character/actor now just to "promote diversity". Also, many members of the LGBT need to come to the realizations that not everyone is going to accept their lifestyles (especially several Muslims and Christians), and that most people in the world are heterosexual (although the Kinsey Scale suggests that most humans are bisexual in some shape or form).
As a straight (possibly bi) person, it is not my preference to see two men kissing or fvking each other either, but I wouldn't run out of the theater if I saw such scenery (I might feel a bit uncomfortable though, especially if there is a sexual man-on-man or transsexual scene).
For some of you who are still unaware, last summer many people attacked the chairman of Chick-Fil-A just because he believed that marriage is supposed to be between a man and a woman (there are claims that he donated to anti-gay organizations, but no one truly knows and can control where their money goes). They even banned Manny Pacquiao from a Hollywood/LA mall just for merely saying the same thing.
There has even been tragic situations where people lost their jobs and careers for explicitly opposing unconventional marriages and lifestyles, even with a sense of reverence. It's like even if you respectfully express your opinion opposing LBGT marriages and whatsoever, you will still get blacklisted and shunned by many, and it may greatly cost you a sh!tload. Personally, I don't think is should be that way. As long as one is being respectful, professional, and not hurting anyone, his/her life shouldn't be jeopardized just because he/she has a different opinion, which they have a right to possess and announce.
Possible Scenario:
* You go to a club filled with 54 Batman fans and 2 Superman fans.
* Batman is the most popular, thus Superman lovers will be shunned and treated very poorly.
* Batman lovers feel bad and try to understand the Superman lovers, thus they compromise for them and want to be humane and sincere.
* Sooner enough, Batman lovers begin seeing slightly more Superman material and fans than Batman material and fans because the owner wants to open the club up to EVERYONE and endorse club variety. The Batman fans say nothing because they want to be welcoming and tolerant, even though there should be a better balance.
Not the best analogy here, but this scenario corresponds with what we "normal" or "straight" people are going through with the LGBT community. People need to realize that everyone (whether you are poor, black, white, gay, Latino, Muslim, Chinese, blue, disable, and/or anything else) go through hardships, and whilst some people's lives are harder than others, that does not make them special or give them "victim status".
There are extremists, idiots, @ssholes, and hypocrites on both sides of the fence alike (Liberals and Conservatives) with faulty arguments, thus I choose to be neutral/moderate. Now I fathom that the LGBT community should be represented. However, I just don't think everything should be over-saturated with LGBT issues and representations. There needs to be some sort of balance in all things, whereas simultaneously we are solving some unfair dilemmas. We live in a PC society, so we have to be cautious of the things we say now so no one (especially minorities) catches offense and feelings.
Sorry I went into a verbose wannabe-righteous-political speech, but I wanted my most likely unimportant opinion to be known merely to start a decent discussion and debate about this issue.
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Well done, theblkrev. Well done.
Oh well, you know.
I for one loved the scene due to its context and that it was pointing out a very real double standard (earlier in the movie, one of the main characters ordered the girls to make out as part of their initiation). Furthermore, in most cases, male characters in these type of films act disgusted or repulsed by being with another man which by itself is not promoting any type of gay agenda. Historically, these type of films are very homophobic even with the male nudity. At least this film had one friend ask the other, "are you getting a chubby?" which was something I guess.
I don't know anyone who complains of seeing too many straight people on TV other than to point out the hypocrisy of those who get "offended" when they see gay people onscreen. I rather see gays being portrayed realistically onscreen rather than as just another stereotype. There are plenty of gay people who do not identify with the negative and overly broad stereotypes that seem to be the norm.
Moreover, pointing out that the media is oversaturated with LGBT issues is just bulls****. Glee is populated with mostly heterosexual characters. Calling something "gay" because it is a musical or has a token gay character is just plain stupid. Furthermore, people such as Ellen and Anderson Cooper were successful in spite of their sexuality not because of it. In fact, both of them kept their private lives private for a long time and had more to lose by coming out but did so anyway for a good cause. I find it admirable that they used their celebrity status to endorse causes such as the "It Get's Better Campaign" which was a response to the amount of gay suicides taking place throughout the country. I won't even address the most colleges/universities comment since whatever claim you seem to be making is probably unsubstantiated.
The reality is gay people are not viewed as a valued demographic because they are a minority. Hollywood is a business first and foremost and their agenda is to appeal not to the LGBT audience but the majority. So what if gays have one cable channel most people do not get? You have every other channel. Although gays spend a lot of money and have a lot of discretionary income, "family values" organizations still have more political and social influence especially in Middle America (by the way, it must be said that while they are wrong about gays, they do some good too). Hollywood outwardly supports the cause for equality yet there are many actors who are afraid or unwilling to come out of the closet due to fear it might jeopardize their careers. Compare this to England, where many actors, musicians, and athletes (who are mostly straight) acknowledge their gay fanbase. Many British boybands seem to do this after they have outgrown their tween girl fanbase.Even if a larger majority of Americans were to come out in support of gay rights, that will not change the type of entertainment and media we would consume as a whole. For example, just because one votes for Obama doesn't make them a Tyler Perry fan. We might see less negative portrayals of homosexuals in mainstream films and television which is a good thing in my opinion.
Finally, I am annoyed when people lump liberalism with gay activism. Being gay has nothing to do with politics. You can be gay and proud and still be conservative on most issues. However, the current Republican party has a very anti gay platform. Why support a candidate that denies your most basic civil rights? Like most Americans, I agree or disagree with both Democrats and Republicans on several issues but I find the intolerance preached so openly in the Republican party especially repugnant. How ironic they oppose gay marriage which would do more to assimilate gays into mainstream culture when their base is so committed to imposing traditional family values. I guess they realize they can't win an election by pandering to the gay vote so they don't bother embracing that issue by and large. They rather use it as a tactic of fear to mobilize their base which is pathetic.
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Also, many members of the LGBT need to come to the realizations that not everyone is going to accept their lifestyles (especially several Muslims and Christians), and that most people in the world are heterosexual (although the Kinsey Scale suggests that most humans are bisexual in some shape or form).
Uh, no. People weren't in an uproar w/Chik-Fil-A because some guy had an opinion. They were in an uproar because Chik-Fil-A donates money to restrict rights. Have whatever opinion you want - when you start petitioning governments to take away (or not give) rights to a people, it is no longer about your opinion. There's a good article about it. Can't believe I found it again:
http://www.owldolatrous.com/?p=288
Please direct your responses to him :)
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Maybe he just went to the bathroom...
shareIt's called gay panic humor, and it's a form of homophobia. I think if it's funny it's fine but in 21 & Over, like pretty much every other joke, it wasn't funny.
shareTwo things,
1. Do you have any proof (like him vocalizing that's what was going) that this was the reason he left? I know I left the theater at one point.......because I had to pee. If the guy was simply getting up and leaving and was only gone for a couple minutes, you can hardly say that you know w scantly what he was up to unless he was commenting on the reason loud enough for other movie goers to hear.
2. Honestly that scene WAS kind of uncomfortable. Nt because it was two guys kissing, but because it was two people kissing who were very clearly uncomfortable with the fact that they were doing it. Watching ANYBODY make out (naked, and chained up........) who are not really willing is going to feel icky. I'm not saying what they did to the girls was okay, but to me it felt less uncomfortable because they seemed, at best annoyed and maybe irritated, though the voyeristic aspect of the. Being blindfolded with the guys there and them not knowing the whole of what was going on did feel inky, but yea, so did the scene where the guys were made to kiss because let's face it, the idea of being black bagged, then chained up up paddled (and who knows what they did with the rose bushes.....I'm assuming another whipping with the branches which is....eek) yea....to me, that feels very sick.
How dare he not watch two guys kissing!
shareno...he ran out because he suddenly realized he was watching a piece of crap.