I am actually feeling as if I have seen this episode before - didn't we have several scenes in another Jesse Stone about the cell phone and the cell phone number? "I hate cellphones - here is my number don't give it to anybody..."
If I am wrong, does anyone have a clue what I am thinking about?! AHHHHHHHH!
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Yep - I got the donut thing too. It wasn't a bad episode of the series of movies - but I didn't feel it had the heart that some of the others have had. Didn't enjoy it as much - they usually ARE dark, but this was downright black!
Thanks for answering, I thought I was going insane.
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Good description: downright BLACK!
shareDidn't enjoy it as much - they usually ARE dark, but this was downright black!I like the series, but felt exactly the same way. It's time for Jesse to smile a bit more. Thank goodness for Reggie, the brightest aspect of the movie. share
I felt it was the weakest of the series. Hopefully the next one "Jesse Stone: Benefit of the Doubt" will be much better.
shareYep, I agree - in fact, given the fact that the dog was supposedly traumatized by his previous owner's death, I fully expected Jesse to die in this episode. I also felt that Tom Selleck wasn't giving his all, maybe too involved in his TV series now?
shareThe cell phone thing was ok with me... if Jesse hates cell phones in one episode, it follows he would continue to hate them in other episodes.
But this was a dark, dark offering of the Jesse Stone series. The only happy person seemed to be the ex-con car dealer with the flashing bow tie and the desire to run an election campaign to become mayor or town councilman. The dog still liked to play in the pond, but even the dog seemed bummed out by all the depressed humans surrounding him.
I don't mind the continuation of the cell-phone dislike, or ongoing elements like the issues with the dog, the "coply" donuts etc. But geez, I swear the DIALOG was exactly the same! Just moved the same words from one movie to the next. If they are going to have it as an issue, then they need to expand on it a bit differently instead of just taking the cheap, easy way out and recycling! IMO of course. YES this was really dark. As I said to someone else in this thread, I really expected Jesse Stone to die in this episode - he was so gloomy and depressed. Ick. Because I have watched all the movies, I will give the next one a try, but it had better be a big improvement, or Tom Selleck will become someone I watch in reruns of Magnum P.I. only...
share"or Tom Selleck will become someone I watch in reruns of Magnum P.I. only..."
Oh you are tough, Readerwoman, lol. I am going to take another look at IL before pulling the flush lever because during my first watching, I got this feeling like I used to get before I gave up watching the local news... (Like Innocents was being lost?... Yes!) Selleck may have gotten more artsy than we expected him to.
Every plot and subplot seemed to be reflecting the episode title, making it such a very dark Jesse Stone episode. And I want to review that interchange between Jesse and the used car salesman/ex-con (who seems to be the only content person in the episode). He's the man with the flashing bow tie who is planning a political run for mayor and will be campaigning on the platform of "Redemption".
This episode may very well be Jesse at the bottom of the barrel (along with everyone else) and next episode he may begin his rise... perhaps with a car dealing/ex-con Mayor on Jesse's side.
The rich call it, "engaging in class war", only when we fight back
There may be some redemptive qualities in this dark piece - but, as with the daily newscast - how much DARK can one take before you turn it off!?
share"There may be some redemptive qualities in this dark piece - but, as with the daily newscast - how much DARK can one take before you turn it off!?"
You got me there, Readerwoman. DARK wears on a person and makes the off switch look mighty tempting. Everything was twisted... even the kid who Jesse saved from a murder charge was only proved innocent of murder because he was proved guilty of rape. And believe it or not, what bothered me the most was that nobody threw that poor dog a stick when he wanted to play.
"I swear the DIALOG was exactly the same!"
I agree. I think that was on purpose, because the the turd councilman (forgot his name) that hated Jesse from the beginning always wanted to appoint his son chief. Rose and Suit hated his arrogant attitude and Jesse wanted his job back because he cares about his adopted town.
"he was so gloomy and depressed. Ick."
It would help if you rent the second installment "Death In Paradise" (the prequel), then Stone Cold and this will give you a better idea of why Jesse is in a depressive state. These movies build on each other. I might add that not all JS movies are written this way.
The stories are about a man on a emotional roller coaster ride from having trouble with his marriage with Jenn, drinking, being fired as an LAPD officer, taking a new job as Chief with the Paradise Police Dept. That is why Dr Dix is prominent in all the installments to help Jesse sort out the baggage he is carrying around.
Jesse is a good person who cares about the people he becomes involved with. This is why he is trying to sort out the issues of his life. I appreciate that kind of character in movies instead of the antihero. Jesse's the man!
I have seen all the Jesse Stone movies. I understand his angst, and his baggage - but I just don't feel that it needs to be so "in your face" to be an effective message. And frankly, these days, if I want to be depressed by darkness, I will just watch the news!
shareYeah, art is fine, but dark depression is too easy to be had these days. I hope Jesse gets a little more upbeat for the next episode. And someone better throw that poor dog a stick or else!
Because I just now began with Netflix discs, I've watched them all (up through this one0 back to back. I agree that a reprise of the ideas (cop-ly, cell phone, 2 drink limit, etc.) would be welcome, but hearing the line word for word the same is just lazy writing. Selleck is welcome to participate in the writing now that the author cannot continue his books, but let's have some dialogue with a little meat to it. Also, it seemed to me that the slow pace . . . which up till now I've enjoyed . . . because progressively glacial.
shareYES!! I felt the same way too....I even checked the DVD a couple of
times at the beginning, thinking I'd rented one of the others by mistake.
Some of the lines are identical...I've watched the others more then
once so I was really confused. Yes, the cell phone lines were identical
and he'd already given the number to his police chief buddy. And Suitcase
said a couple of identical lines too.
And the synopsis said he gets his job
back....I kept waiting for that to happen and then BOOM it's over.
This was definitely my least favorite of all of them.
I will say Jeff Beal's music was as good as ever. I just love the
haunting instrumentals throughout. I can almost feel the dark moods of
Jessie and the sadness of Reggie.
The sadness of Reggie may be the most difficult part for me. Seeing Rose petting him as she waited for Jesse was such a relief! I don't care what kind of alienation issues the dog has, he's got to want some physical reinforcement of a relationship. Throw him a stick, pat his head a couple times, move over in bed so there's *room* for him to jump up there!
shareActually Jesse did some of those things. He did throw him a stick and
Reggie just picked it up, then dropped it. He has patted the bed a couple
of times too in some of the shows. Reggie would just look up and then
hang his head over his own bed again. I agree, that was a sad part of the
shows but in this last one he did finally start relating to Jesse. I cheered
when Reggie jumped on the bed after Jesse went to sleep but then jumped
off before Jesse woke up.
I've enjoyed these films and watching Tom Selleck has been a pleasure but the more of them I watch the more disenchanted I become....the quirks and repetitions are becoming painful and not 'familiar' signposts that you welcome.
The two scenes,doughnut and phone.....I nearly deleted the film because I was convinced I'd seen it before and then realised they were just repeating.
It's still watchable, of course but the real interest is waning.
Thank goodness the ex got less airtime...I'm totally sick of her and her disembodied voice.
Says something (not sure what) when the chat about the film moves over to a dog...lovely ..but still a dog.
Don't worry ever, because this is just a ride.It's just a ride. Bill Hicks.
It is actually a Robert B. Parker trademark: reinforcing certain ideas and being almost verbatim from book to book when it comes to character definition. And this is not a negative. Parker remains my favorite mystery writer and these little touches of his make him remain my favorite.
share"I hate cellphones - here is my number don't give it to anybody..."
That's my motto as well.
This film takes place just 3 weeks after the end of the previous one, so the cell phone bit makes total sense. Jesse is dark and troubled, and if he suddenly perked up, that would be weird. Though I did expect to see more of a story between Jesse and the Nun. Gotta watch the next one now. Talk to you later.
"Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government."
-Dennis
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I like the dark, moody atmosphere. That's the signature of all the Jesse Stone movies. He's never gonna be a Chris Farley type of character.
That being said, I was hoping he would pet his dog Reggie. But I can wait for another movie or two for that to happen. The dark gloominess doesn't bother me. I like it.