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I hate movies where there is a white male and a black girl love stories


Okay -- fair warning, you guys are going to HATE this post. So I will understand if there is some backlash.

I dislike these types of movies because they are disingenuous. white male/black female pairings in movies are a gimmick.

We know that there is an imbalance between [insert race] and black women in Hollywood movies and real life because most [insert race]men, culturally, are not attracted to black women...at least as a norm. Some black women are not attracted to them, because they know that they are not attracted to us. In other words, black women don't even consider non-black men or even think of them as being in our dating pool.

The other reason men date outside of their race LESS frequently than women, is because men created racism. So they are more likely to uphold racist idealogies and staying within their own race, than women. Racist ideologies were imposed on women by men who created racism, only the rules are a bit more difficult to enforce, which is why women date outside of their race MORE than men.

Bear in mind, I am a black woman and I don't think the reason that [insert race] men find us unattractive has anything to do with any of us personally. It's just their culture. We don't meet the definition of what their culture has set as the standard of beauty. The problem is when we [black people] begin to adopt outside ideals as our own perception of beauty, that problems arise for black women, creating an imbalance (fewer men for black women to marry).

I think white males who disagree with this point of view will only do so because they hate being told what they think, and being told what they will and what they will not do (which is another reason why so many are athiests). But the truth is, they just aren't attracted to black women. That is no insult to us as black women, it's just the way that it is and just the way that they are.

As for the movie, I hated the way he LEERED at the girl. I mean, he looks like a nice kid, but the perception in America has always been that when white men are interested in black women it's purely sexual and the white male is merely acting on his curiosity. So that was the filter through which I viewed the movie.

But admittedly, then couple in this movie did have some chemistry. I thought it was all a little corny. I liked the movie because of its feel good themes.

Some couples do break the mold. but as I said, perceptions of those very unique relationships are disingenuous and gimmicky. It's not a reflection of real life.

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you need to grow up and stop making sweeping generalizations about people's choices/desires/attractions etc...

attraction is fluid and not set in stone.

"I dont chase anyone who wont chase me back....BB"

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True, but non-black men never deviate from their stance on dating black women because they are not attracted to them. There are always, a few exceptions to this rule. But overall, as a group, white men most certainly, do not have a genuine interest in black women.

Some are not attracted (as John Mayer was practically flogged, for admitting in an interview a couple of years ago)

Some are afraid of being shunned or ridiculed by their peers, or that it may hurt their careers.

Some do not want to "race mix" because of their bigoted beliefs (subconscious or otherwise).

So you're right. It is "fluid".

Why is it a bad thing to admit that? Is it because people don't like being told what they will or will not do?

I dislike movie plots that pretend life is different. I didn't mind so much, the movie where ashton kutcher played a guy who was about to marry a black girl because they didn't skate around the issue.

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So RomanceNovelist, your generalization of the ideals of white or non-black men is interesting, actually laughable. I understand if you can't comprehend that these men you speak of could possibly be attracted to black women, but trust me, many are and will continue to be. If unsure, I'm sure Robert DeNiro, George Lucas, the late Roger Ebert, Robin Thicke, Justin Chambers, David Bowie, the new mayor of New York, Congressman William Cohen, Dirk Nowitzki, just to name a few, (all married to black women), could inform you of why they are the "exceptions" as you referred to those men who are inexplicably attracted to black women. Just in case you're wondering, I've been involved in interracial relationships myself and have found that the only people who are hung up on a couples skin color are generally those who have no tolerance for the difference that exists. I have a dear friend who just married her best friend who happens to be white and when you see them together and how they look at each other, the only thing you see is love. You really want a shock, go to the Facebook page Black women who love white men period....a whole lot of "exceptions" to be seen.

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Maybe I'm off point here. My boyfriend is white and we live together. And I'm a black woman. I was just pissy the day i wrote the message you are replying to because I don't remember writing it. Wasn't trying to be bitchy, I just hate the way black women are depicted by the media, and I hate the way we are treated, as being on the low end of the totem pole, and overall undesirable to men of every race. There are exceptions, men who see our value as women, and my boyfriend is one of them. He thinks I'm the most attractive woman in the world.

The sad part is that, when we are depicted in a desirable manner, it's in a medium designed to demean and degrade us sexually, as women. I distrust the way we are depicted in movies. I distrust the men of America - and only racist America.

They pick fun at our hair, our names, the way we rear our children, our manner of speaking, the way we dress, and wear our makeup. We are stereotyped as being loud, abrasive, and obnoxious. I'm just stick of America and its racism.

Yes, there are men who value and find us attractive, but the way mass media has handled our image, has been to degrade us. That is what I meant. I should have been more articulate.

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Wow RomanceNovelist, you really are a bitch. Its no wonder no white men would want you. You have such a piss poor attitude and way too much hatred in your heart. Eat *beep* and die twice.

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Tessa, shut the fck up and take your ghetto ass back to the trailer park.

Be the type of person you want to meet

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Who are you to talk to me like that? I DESERVE RESPECT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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I'm your worst nightmare.

Be the type of person you want to meet

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I live in England and black woman/white men couples are actually pretty common.

It's not as funny when you know that part.

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Silly me. I thought this would be a constructive criticism of how Hollywood's habit of quickly pairing a rising young black starlet with a white lead, but instead an met with black stormfront post.

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You just say so many things that aren't true, and I would be very surprised if you actually were a black woman.

1. You say white men aren't attracted to black women...w-r-o-n-g. That may be the stereotype for black people that only know other black people, but it's not true for white men at all or for anyone that actually knows white men. It's just flat out wrong to say that.

2. Then you say women interracially date more than men do, which is flat-out wrong as well. Black men are five times more likely to have interracial relationships or children than black women in America are, and men are much more likely to date outside their race than women are...usually because ignorant people have beat it into women's heads that they must "protect the race" or culture. In general, people care much more about the woman in an interracial relationship than the man, and people get very territorial about women in a way that they just don't with men...It's wrong to say women explore more or are more likely to be adventurous in this regard.

And a lot of things you say are just really jerky and old school. Maybe you're 60 years old, but the world has changed quite a bit since the 1950's...you might want to change your "ideas" with it.

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studies actually show that Men are in fact more likely to date out side there own race than Women

also Men did not create racism

this is a fallacious statement

it is human nature to fear what we do not understand, or fear what is different, ever since the human race diverged into separate racial phenotypes Racism has existed.

not one race created it. its simply biological to fear what is different(not that i fear anyone or hate anyone because i don't)

and society doesn't dictate what a man finds attractive in fact that has been debunked as standards of beauty are based around Science
such as the golden ratio and the Fibonacci sequence which cause our personal attractions to be biologically ingrained in us to a degree IE no one can tell us who we find attractive

the perception in america has never been that white men are purely interested in black woman sexually. Humans are sexual beings there is no way around this be you black white indian chinese you are a sexual being and until we no longer are sexual beings we will always be interested in someone sexually

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