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posted 12 years ago by sonofsubo
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Firstly, why would Molly move back into the same house where she suffered such an awful abusive childhood? I understand that they were strapped for cash, with being married young and having no nice things, but are we to believe she'd look over that, with the help of a drug addiction blurring out the bad memories, and go back there?

And if so, why didn't the sister put her foot down and say that it's a bad idea? Wouldn't the sister even get creeped out, the fact that she too had a bad time and killed her own father in that house? They just seemed so casual about it.

Why would you smoke weed in front of a recovering addict, before saying it's such a bad idea? I mean, otherwise than it being a bad plot device.

What was the thing under the floorboard, with the twin horse heads? It looked like some medal or something - did that have any reason in bringing the spirit to Molly? I'm unsure if it was left ambiguous as I sadly lost interest in parts, but I'm still curious.

It's unfortunate that this wasn't more carefully made. The girl that played Molly was amazing and beautiful, but the writing was awful, and the characters were all despicable people which any standard viewer would have no care if they lived or died. I imagine I'd have appreciated the angle of it being all in her head, if the trailer didn't already show the half-naked-Crash-Bandicoot-looking-guy in the garden. I am slightly bitter about that, but I can't imagine I'd have enjoyed it any more even if it was fresh to me.

[–] thewood 12 years ago

well .. i didnt watch the trailer and neither had i
come across any word of mouth about this apart from
me there was only two folks in the late show i just
got out of .. while i would say the writing skirted
around a couple of danger zones on the whole it was
strong material and v. skillfully directed not once
did the intensity let up anyway a) why did she move
back into the house - because victims of abuse feel
guilt and culpability it is not as simple escape is
the end ... particularly when it/s tied up into the
complexities of a family situation ! b) why did her
sister skin up on a recovering addicts birthday ???
i havent spent long around serious users but enough
to recognise this scenario ... it wasn/t a bad plot
device this couldve been reintroduced in any number
of ways .... in truth i reckon the writer took this
scene from real life ! c) the horses head emblems i
took to be satanic motifs from the base ment in the
stables/annexe that were used during rituals ... it
wasnt a strong card to play ... the abusive satanic
father is now a -genre cliche- and the drugs stroke
satanic possession allegory didnt really cut it for
me ... but on the whole this film did not let up in
its onslaught and it did not stoop to any depths to
speak of which is to its incredible merit for these
times i for one live and breathe low budget b-movie
psych horror an this was a great addition in a long
tradition .... in fact at about 45 minutes in i did
catch my self fleetingly thinking -why do i keep on
putting myself through scary shizz like this- truth
is who knows why we do it ?
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[–] columbusbuck 12 years ago

Ugh. What ever happened to the concept of simple sentence construction?

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[–] thither 12 years ago

Also, for god's sake man, nobody is going to print out your IMDB comments on a big Jack Kerouac scroll, why don't you use normal formatting?

[–] lewiskendell 12 years ago

I made it about two lines before I had to stop reading. I hope that person didn't have any sharp insights, because I will never know.

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[–] somesunnyday 11 years ago

Actually I put myself through the migraine inducing pain of reading it and they had some good points to make

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[–] mamanoooooooo 12 years ago

I seriously want to slap that keyboard out of your hands. WTF?

[–] Cheena71 12 years ago

Please check out the extra features, it answers some questions about Molly's behavior, father, history of the people who lived in the house, etc.

These "chapters," I'll call them, are set up like a documentary

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[–] kisses5050 12 years ago

because they are "extra" features. You should not be required to take a prerequisite course to watch a movie to understand it. I am soooooo weary of the answer " it explains it in the extras". Realllllly? That is poor film making. It is like going back and saying " WHHHHAT I meant to say is". It is one thing to leave a sense of ambiguity. But to leave confussion which has to have "extra" back up is poor storytelling.

[–] Iheartangel 12 years ago

I watched it on Netflix so there were no extras. They definately shouldn't have it available there if the movie can't explain itself without the extras.

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[–] JayRene 11 years ago

I agree. If the extras are key to understanding how the film is supposed to be interpreted, it is really frustrating that they aren't there. That's the downside to Netflix.

[–] morgan_mourning 11 years ago

I think that's more of a downside to the movie itself. Extras should be just that - Extras. It shouldn't be needed in order to fully understand or enjoy a film. That being said, I really wish Netflix still had the special features available on their DVDs...this "rental only copy" is a bunch of baloney.

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[–] pwrgirl35 11 years ago

I actually think it works better without knowing "extras". Leaving it to the imagination has stuck with me. If I found out the answers to many of the questions, that would diminish the effect for me. Why do people have to have everything explained? And why are films with more questions not answered considered a bad thing?

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[–] toribjork10 11 years ago

the story was easy to understand without watching the special features. jesus, why do you people need every little plot point spoon fed to you? clearly her father abused her when he was alive, and the were was some kind of demon or entity pretending to her father after he died and is trying to get molly again. everything else that happens in the movie makes sense with this. ever since m. night shamadouche started beating you audiences over the head with plot details because you're too lazy to think, you expect every movie to do the same.

it wasn't even ambiguous... you see the *beep* demon at the end!!! how much more clarity do you need? i haven't even seen the extras, but they sound like any other extras on dvds, just expanding on the story and movie. it's not "poor storytelling". and "poor film making"? where can we watch you're masterpiece of cinema, since you're such an expert on film making?

this movie was awesome. it was a great atmosphere and different take on a demon and how it lies and drives people to do horrible things.

[–] somesunnyday 11 years ago

Oh, thank God, somebody on the same wavelength. I nearly jumped off a bridge at the thought of there being no hope for the human race. Jesus, I hope these people aren't breeding! Some of the questions and demands from morons screaming can you please explain this or clarify that were so stupid they must have been tweeting while watching the film.

[–] LordManhammer 11 years ago

While the demon-posing-as-dead-abusive-father explanation might be "clear" to you, toribjork, there are other feasible explanations. Many people on this board find it fun to talk about the options. They aren't stupid and hoping to be spoon-fed.

This movie involved an abused, drugged-out, and possibly mentally ill woman. Thus NOTHING is perfectly clear, including the demon at the end--this could be an attempt to show viewers her hallucinations.

Do you really not think there is intentional ambiguity in this movie? None at all?

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[–] hybridlycan17 11 years ago

some of you are absolute fools. take into consideration the filmmakers intention with this movie. like the blair witch project, and even with viral marketing campaigns like dark knight and what have you, there was supposed to be interaction with the lovely molly website, which was very well constructed, before seeing the film. the extras everyone is mentioning are also on the website, the fact theyre on the dvd is just because, but they were made for the site to get some catch up time and look into the world of the movie. the movie is a whole other beast that works whether or not you see the site, imo, just like blair witch. but, interacting with the features does spell things out a bit more and are very enjoyable.

out by 16 or dead in the scene - but together forever.

[–] LordManhammer 11 years ago

Consider how people will watch this movie decades from now, long after the website is defunct.

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[–] toribjork10 11 years ago

No. No I don't.

She finds demonic altars, can foresee the future, has bizarre strength... the movie was clearly saying it was possession. She wasn't drugged out when it first began. Only after the demon began to possess her. The working title was even called the possession. At this point, if you still think I'm wrong, you could always watch the extras the director made for ppl like you.

[–] davannacarter 11 years ago

the story was easy to understand without watching the special features. jesus, why do you people need every little plot point spoon fed to you? clearly her father abused her when he was alive, and the were was some kind of demon or entity pretending to her father after he died and is trying to get molly again. everything else that happens in the movie makes sense with this. ever since m. night shamadouche started beating you audiences over the head with plot details because you're too lazy to think, you expect every movie to do the same.

it wasn't even ambiguous... you see the *beep* demon at the end!!! how much more clarity do you need? i haven't even seen the extras, but they sound like any other extras on dvds, just expanding on the story and movie. it's not "poor storytelling". and "poor film making"? where can we watch you're masterpiece of cinema, since you're such an expert on film making?

this movie was awesome. it was a great atmosphere and different take on a demon and how it lies and drives people to do horrible things.

Don't you think it's great how there's always those people who feel the need to hide behind a computer and belittle others for not getting a piece of fiction? I also love the "where is you're masterpiece of cinema" comment. Your entire comment is filled with bad grammar and spelling while trying to be superior. I guess if you feel no one has the right to criticize a movie if they don't have a "masterpiece of cinema", huh?

We have posters here who didn't like a movie and want to discuss the things they didn't like or were confused by. Instead of getting a discussion of the movie, they get a personal attack. This is probably the reason why more people don't post on the imdb.com boards, because they know many small-minded people will attack them for disliking a piece of fiction rather than discussing the movie.

[–] toribjork10 11 years ago

Your sarcasm is dull.

I wasn't replying to a comment that was politely and demurely saying they disliked the film. They were saying the movie was poorly written and made because they missed key parts of the movie because they weren't paying attention. They can ask questions about plot points all they want.... but to say the director can't tell a story clearly, when in reality they weren't really listening is infuriating and worth mocking. Maybe you like to entertain cynical, jaded armchair critics with no attention spans. I mainly just want to tell them off.

Also, I respond to a lot of comments on here with my phone, which presumes words ad autocorrects words at whim. I usually don't proofread. But as usual, when you want to deflect the conversation to ad hominem attacks, by all means go.for the spelling /grammar.

[–] Cheena71 8 years ago

I'm posting years later.....as I read the most current threads people still have the same questions.

Wait a minute. First, I'd like to thank you for your response. There's no need for anyone to get "snarky." As you said, some people watch the same movie and have different interpretations or they may not be sure of certain parts (hence the need for message boards).

Anyway, I mentioned the special features because they go into detail. Is it necessary to understand the movie? For some it might be. I just found the features to be interesting! The special features, in this case, are there to confirm what some may have figured out or answer a couple of questions. I always check out the sf of dvds/blu-ray but that's for MY enjoyment. In the case of Lovely Molly, I think it would solidify quite a bit.

[–] screamingbrain-520-226603 11 years ago

Why...it's almost like...like...sometimes people aren't rational, make bad decisions, and are in denial about terrible things that happened to them in the past! It's almost like they don't know they're in a horror movie. They are plausible, flawed human beings - that's not a "bad plot device."

[–] ehaas-3 11 years ago

Firstly, why would Molly move back into the same house where she suffered such an awful abusive childhood? I understand that they were strapped for cash, with being married young and having no nice things, but are we to believe she'd look over that, with the help of a drug addiction blurring out the bad memories, and go back there?
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Economics. Some people are really not in a position to turn down an inherited house, and the dialogue established that it isn't worth much so seling it in order to buy something else might not have been an option. They seemed like they were struggling pretty badly to get by, anyway. Imagine rent or mortgage payments on to of that. She seemed to handle being in the house OK when she didn't have to stay alone in it for very long. Her husband being a long haul truck driver was unfortunate.

Why would you smoke weed in front of a recovering addict, before saying it's such a bad idea? I mean, otherwise than it being a bad plot device.
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I think that scene showed how screwd up the whole family was. There was a recurring theme or pattern in the movie along the lines of "a. show a character or situation that seems positive, neutral or mildly threatening. b. establish more context to reveal that things are a lot worse than you initially assume."

What was the thing under the floorboard, with the twin horse heads?
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Possibly a cursed object or an object used in black magic representing a horse-headed god or demon.

[–] MissOceanB 11 years ago

To reply to your first paragraph: sometimes those who have been abused (and it can depend on the extent of the abuse) feel a need to return to the location where it occurred...to conquer the past, knowing the perpetrator is now gone. It's quite sad and twisted, yes, but our minds work in mysterious ways. Of course, each case is different and unique in itself, but that would likely be why Molly (and those in real life) may behave this way.

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