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OT but about CATS-Tom Hooper Developing Cats Movie


www.comingsoon.net/movies/news/684221-les-miserables-tom-hooper-developing-cats-movie

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If you read the original source story, then it does generate some exciting thinking.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-3576106/BAZ-BAMIGBOYE-Tom-s-Cats-aim-movies-Oscar-winning-director-Hooper-wants-adapt-stage-hit-silver-screen.html


BAZ BAMIGBOYE: Tom's Cats aim for the movies - Oscar winning director Hooper wants adapt stage hit for the silver screen

By Baz Bamigboye for the Daily Mail

Published: 23:23 GMT, 5 May 2016 | Updated: 00:29 GMT, 6 May 2016


Oscar-winning director Tom Hooper is exploring how to make a film of the musical Cats.

He has signed a contract to investigate how such a film could be made, in the light of huge advances in movie-making techniques.

Hooper, who won an Academy Award for The King’s Speech and was nominated by BAFTA for his version of the hit show Les Miserables, has started a process known in the film business as R&D (research and development).

What Hooper and his associates will try to decide is whether a film could be made using computer generated images (CGI) or live action — or a combination of both, like Disney’s recent global blockbuster The Jungle Book, which married brilliant CGI images with live shots of the young actor playing Mowgli.

‘Do you somehow use actors, sophisticated puppets, CGI — or what? That’s the point of the exercise. We hope to be able to answer all of those questions, following a long period of research,’ an executive involved in the project told me.

Hooper will be collaborating with a development team at Working Title Films and with composer Andrew Lloyd Webber.

If a decision is made to continue on to full production, and actually make a movie, then nothing would happen until late 2017 and well into 2018. For starters, a screenwriter hasn’t been assigned; and clearly, no humans — or felines — have been cast.

I’m told that Hooper has gone back to T. S. Eliot’s Old Possum’s Book Of Practical Cats to examine the poems that inspired Lloyd Webber decades ago, when he was putting together the original show at the New London Theatre back in 1981.

Trevor Nunn, who directed that show, told me he studied a lot of Eliot’s published and unpublished works, as part of his preparation.

Some of the ideas for additional lyrics in the song Memory (which he co-wrote) were inspired by that material.



Hooper, who won an Academy Award for The King¿s Speech, has started a process known in the film business as R&D (research and development)


Hooper, who won an Academy Award for The King’s Speech, has started a process known in the film business as R&D (research and development)

The stage show was originally produced by Lloyd Webber and Cameron Mackintosh, and it turned into a phenomenon that continues to enthrall audiences to this day. A revival involving the original creative team of Nunn, choreographer and associate director Gillian Lynne, and costume and scenic designer John Napier, with lighting by David Hersey, was staged at the Palladium for two years running.

And Cats will re-open on Broadway this August, with Nunn directing again.

The songs still have the power to seduce — though a hip-hop number that was added for the recent London show will be dropped.

I wonder, too, how a movie would affect the chances of a live show in the future. Could Cats on stage become just a theatrical Memory?







If you check out the box office results of the past few years, there is great appeal of stories where human strengths and frailties and humor are illustrated using animals as characters. Maybe CATS is a project that will actually cater to modern technology in filmmkaing and the changing tastes of movie audiences.

Yet, it is also very relevant to go back to the original book of poems by T. S. Eliot which inspired CATS ("Old Possum's Book of Practical Cats" published in 1939 which is a collection of whimsical poems about feline psychology and sociology), where he mirrors human characteristics in how the felines behave and present themselves 

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From tweets by someone named Sydney who posted on Twitter ( Sydney‏@sguye2 ) -- a humorous CATS cast portrayal, with the cast of Les Miserables


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ChwBuLAUYAIXLOg.jpg


And another suggestion --


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ChvsZrUUoAQKWHk.jpg





*Hugh Jackman as the "perverse, preening and independent" Rum Tum Tugger.

*Russell Crowe as the wise old Deuteronomy

*Anne Hathaway as Grizabella, the former Glamour Cat who sings Memory

*Samantha Barks as Victoria, the white cat

*Sacha Baron Cohen as the mysterious villainish Macavity

*Eddie Redmayne and Aaron Tveit as the burglar team of Rumpleteazer and Mungojerrie

*And Amanda as the young cat Bombolurina who reprises Memory.


It's not going to happen but what an inventive casting - LOL!

Although of course with the trio of Hooper/Working Title/Universal working together with Andrew Lloyd Webber on the possible CATS film project, the only missing component would be the powerhouse cast of Les Miserables.

Maybe extended cameos?

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Wow thanks for the very long reply + the links :-]

I'm not sure wether they should do a whole CGI film with the singing in it or a combo of both CGI + Live Action what do you think?

I also heard that a Miss Saigon film might be in the works at some point as well



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Baj...my little fountain of knowledge for Les Miserables!

...wonder if I can rely on you for the same with CATS! 😄

ELPHABA: Eleka Nahmen Nahmen Ah Tum Ah Tum Eleka Nahmen.

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Hello,Elphie, my Les Mis colleague 

Not really a fan of CATS per se -- when I first saw it, I thought it was the most boring show of ALWebber ( and I am a big fan of his music) that I had ever seen. But when I looked at the lyrics again and learned where they came from ( the book of poems by T.S.Eliot), I did take a second look. Very interesting and quite sophisticated lyrics actually. The focus of T. S. Eliot's set of poems was feline sociology and psychology. As they mirrored human characteristics!

Do you like A CHORUS LINE? What is the difference between A CHORUS LINE and CATS? Not much! In A CHORUS LINE, a group of dancers with different backstories come to an audition! CATS celebrates the different backgrounds and characteristics of the different felines, all coming to the Jellicle Ball reunion!
Both are deceptively simple but very effective theatrical pieces!

I am not sure though that what Hooper and the Working Title producers as well as Universal are simply thinking of another film adaptation of a popular stage musical! Maybe what they are looking at is the road to success of so many movies featuring animals( mostly animated, some combining live action and animation) through the years and think " Hey, maybe we can come up with a colossal hit about animals, but singing animals with music by the composer who gave us Phantom, etc!". Not another Les Mis, Evita, Into the Woods, etc., but in the tradition of blockbuster animal movie hits 

They are film-makers, not bound by only one set of performing arts parameters!


Take a look at some of the successful animation movies from 1980 -- do you recognize how many feature animals, vested with human characteristics 



http://www.boxofficemojo.com/genres/chart/?id=animation.htm



I could be utterly wrong, though - LOL!


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Baj...not sure if you will remember this, but when I first found this board (well...actually, I was directed by another IMDb'er on here), your opinion of Cats was similar to my opinion of Les Mis! But I absolutely LOATHED Les Mis and refused to have absolutely ANYTHING to do with the show! (and this is all from someone who trained in theatre...where Les Mis is considered one of the staple shows!). 😄

But someone on the Wicked board convinced me to try Les Miserables: The Dream Cast in Concert...which I did...and then the rest is history, as we know! Oh...and I LOVE Chorus Line (one of my favourites!). However, with regards to Cats...it's funny really, because I don't normally like anything related to animals (at all!)...I HATE The Lion King...never shed a tear at Bambi or Watership Down...and hated Beatrix Potter as a child! But there is something different about Cats... 😕

ELPHABA: Eleka Nahmen Nahmen Ah Tum Ah Tum Eleka Nahmen.

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CATS was the 3rd musical I saw in the 80's, And I remember overhearing two people saying what is going on I don't understand-And I said read your program it explains it in there and then they said oh ok thanks just common sense lol

The set, Special Effects, Acting, Dancing, + songs are all just brilliant

How many times have you seen CATS??

I have seen CATS like 19 times out of it's West End + UK tours + Broadway run

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Sounds like Baj already did lol

What do you think of the news Elphie_Tiggular :-]

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I'm quite excited really, mikekaraoke...

...but I'd still prefer a film version of Wicked! 😞

ELPHABA: Eleka Nahmen Nahmen Ah Tum Ah Tum Eleka Nahmen.

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Good glad you are, So what other musicals have you seen past + present and where you from?

I heard nearly a year ago there was talks of a film version for Wicked

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Gosh...I would have to say a fair few! But probably most of the mainstream ones (Phantom, Evita, Chicago and so on).

...from the UK (so the West End is my home!).

...there's been talk of a film version of Wicked since 2010! So I've waited a fair while for that one... 😞

ELPHABA: Eleka Nahmen Nahmen Ah Tum Ah Tum Eleka Nahmen.

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Go on give me your list and then I will do the same from musicals I have seen since 1985 when I was 4.....:-]

I'm also from UK in Kent where in UK you from?

I do like going to West End to see musicals but also see some at my local ones in Kent Bromley + Dartford etc etc

Yea I know there has been talks since 2010 but I mean't recently there was news bout a line of directors and scripts being sorted out

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Okay, totally off the top of my head (combination of West End and fringe)...

Wicked, Les Miserables and Cats (obviously), then there's been Matilda, Phantom of the Opera, The Lion King, Mamma Mia, The Book of Mormon, Blood Brothers, Chicago, Billy Elliot, Sound of Music, Evita, The Wizard of Oz, Grease, Rocky Horror Show, Little Shop of Horrors, Into the Woods, Love Never Dies, Chess and Miss. Saigon.

I feel like I've forgotten some but still... 😕

EDIT: See! I knew I would forget at least one...The King and I!

I'm fortunately based in London...so the West End is my playground! 😊

Yeah...there was talk of Stephen Daldry, and now Joe Mantello as director for Wicked...but Stephen Schwartz has always been the biggest obstacle (he has openly opposed a film version for years!). 😒

ELPHABA: Eleka Nahmen Nahmen Ah Tum Ah Tum Eleka Nahmen.

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Ones I have seen since 1985 off top of my head are: Blues Brothers, Annie, Little Shop of Horrors, CATS, 42nd Street, Starlight Express, Les Miserables, TIME, Phantom of the Opera, Chess,The Mouse Trap, Me and my Girl, Run for your Wife, Shirley Valentine, Stepping Out, No sex please, We're British,Lettice and Lovage,Woman in Black,Blood Brothers,

Follies, Stepping Out, Miss Saigon, Aspects Of Love, Joseph + Tech-Dream Coat, Heath Cliff, Five Guys Named Moe, Rent, Grease, Scrooge, Chicago, We will Rock You,Oliver, Stomp, 39 Steps, Wicked, Jersey Boys, The Commitments, Thriller Live, The Lion King, Charlie + Choc Factory, War Horse, Matilda, Sunday Afternoon, The Curious Incident of the Dog in the Night-Time, Mary Poppins, George Orwell's-1984, War of the Worlds, Hair Spray, Jekyll +Hyde, Jeeves + Wooster, How The Other Half Loves, Guys and Dolls, The Winter's Tale,Photograph 51, etc etc

Obviously these include plays as well, Which plays have you seen??

Ah ok so you live in London, Have you seen any in other theatres outside of London!

Yea I know what you mean bout Stephen Schwartz, What would you think of a mini series of Wicked instead of a film?

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Ah...Yes! I forgot Annie. And I should have added Company to my list.

Gosh! That is an impressive list... 😮

I have always wanted to see Starlight Express and Rent (but never had the chance), never really been interested in We Will Rock You or Oliver, I've read The Curious Incident of the Dog in the Night-Time but never seen the play, and I've only ever seen the film versions of Stepping out, Hairspray and Mary Poppins.

I'm not a massive fan of straight plays (I mostly love musical theatre and ballet), but I do love Shakespeare and seen a lot of his works (various venues all over the place!).

I would like a mini-series of Wicked...but based on the novel, and then a film version based on the musical. 😊

ELPHABA: Eleka Nahmen Nahmen Ah Tum Ah Tum Eleka Nahmen.

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Yea I have seen a'lot of those shows dozens of times throughout the years :-]

How did you not have the chance to see Starlight Express or Rent- They were out for a long time esp Starlight 18 + half years at West End.............

It still plays in Germany in Dusseldorf and is the longest running musical there since 1987

You got to see the play The Curious Incident of the Dog in the Night-Time- It is very cleverly done from the set, Special effects, acting, vibe etc

Well you should mix it up with plays and musicals good mix, Glad you like Shakespeare plays I also like then as well :-]


HAHA now your greddy wanting a mini series and a film version- What other theatres you been to outside of London?

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I'm very stubborn. And if I don't think that I will like a show (such as Starlight or Rent), then I will not be moved. Hell...I didn't even see Les Mis on stage until the film was almost finished! Though I will now admit that I absolutely LOVE Les Mis (so...my stubbornness has misguided me before!). But...it's a hard (and terrible!) habit to break...and apparently I have missed out on a few good shows! 😞

...which leads me onto The Curious Incident...I've seen a trailer for the show but I just wasn't that moved enough to see it. And I wasn't really that impressed by the book? I don't know. Maybe one day... 😕

Yes, I've been to a lot of theatres outside of London...but those I definitely could not list! I have been in and out of theatres my entire life, so definitely could not list all... 😧

ELPHABA: Eleka Nahmen Nahmen Ah Tum Ah Tum Eleka Nahmen.

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A'lot of women are stubborn thankgod not all lol- You didn't think you would of liked Starlight or Rent how comes???

I remember as a kid seeing it advertised on the news and then saw trailers for it on TV and then posters on buses + then saw the making of Documentary which was a special feature still got it recorded on tape and I was going on at my dad to take me lol

How did that not appeal to you bout a train set coming to life when the young boy falls asleep!!!

How comes you thought you wouldn't like RENT, And how on earth did you not think you would not like Les Miserables- I remember as a young kid thinking who is this Michael Ball when he was interviewed on the news in 1985 as the show had sold out within mins and then the cast did a segment of it on Terry Wogan show and on Children in need etc

I'm sure you knew what it was about as it was explained, So for The Curious Incident. You didn't feel for the boy- Christopher Boone who has autism spectrum condition surrounding the death of a neighbour's dog and has to prove it wasn't him etc etc
Maybe you will like it better than the book

You say:
Yes, I've been to a lot of theatres outside of London...but those I definitely could not list! I have been in and out of theatres my entire life, so definitely could not list all. I didn't say you had to list all of them just a dozen or so 


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A'lot of women are stubborn thankgod not all lol
Oh really...! 😡

How did that not appeal to you bout a train set coming to life when the young boy falls asleep!!!
Yeah...exactly! BORING! 😴 😝

But seriously, I would say that the music from Starlight and Rent have never really captivated me (as much as other musicals). Maybe one day...

And how on earth did you not think you would not like Les Miserables-
I studied theatre - and Les Miserables was literally forced down our throats on a daily basis! Everything (EVERYTHING!) was Les Mis (or Phantom...which strangely, I did love from the start!). I HATED Les Miserables so much that I even refused to attend a performance when at college (I said I was sick!...which I was really, SICK of Les Mis!). But at least I love Les Miserables now (though never as much as Wicked!)...

As for The Curious Incident...the only reason I didn't really connect with the story, was due to the fact that I had recently read The Lovely Bones, and someone said to read The Curious Incident (saying that they were similar in style and such). But I didn't find they were...and so I was really disappointed. Perhaps I will revisit one day, or at least watch the show?

Gosh! You really are intent on specifics! 😄 But just to make you happy, a few from the top of my head...

1. Regent Theatre (Suffolk).
2. The Landmark Theatre (Devon).
3. ...and the Theatre national de Chaillot (France) 😝

ELPHABA: Eleka Nahmen Nahmen Ah Tum Ah Tum Eleka Nahmen.

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Well yea you don't think a'lot of women are stubborn in general?

Well RENT this September is doing 2016 20th Anniversary Tour so maybe see it then

As for Starlight if you want to see that go to Dusseldorf in Germany where it has been playing since the 80's in 87, Last UK tour was a few years ago now- The sets and special effects/stunts are amazing as well as you probably saw trailers for it

I Do like the Rent songs but not as much as Starlight :-]

That is a shame you didn't go with your college to see Les Miserables but you regret doing that- Although I understand why might of got annoyed with it if it was forced on a daily basis as you can't take it all in and try and enjoy it even if you like the story concept

Blimey I don't know why that person would of said they were similar to each other Curious Incident + Lovely Bones that was silly thing to say

Yes I do like to be specific it is in my nature lol

I have been to them 3 theatres you mentioned I will list a few of mine in next message




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I'm very excited for a CATS movie as it is one of my favorite musicals. However I do hope that Hooper does not do the "live singing" gimmick he did with Les Mis because I didn't think it completely worked plus why bother? One of the advantages of filmmaking over live performance is you can keep redoing things until they are perfect. A good filmmaker should Take advantage of that and make the best version possible. Honestly I'd be more excited if the Cats musical was getting a different director (maybe Tim Burton?) but I'll take whatever I can get at this point.

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I've been wanting this for years, but I always thought it would be too expensive to make. I'm getting excited now!

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Yea a'lot of people have, Have you seen the musical at theatre though?

And to expensive to make, Surly not I mean it wouldn't cost nowhere as much as say Ant-Man film

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I'm excited for a CATS movie as well. I remember reading about an animated version
which never came off. I'd be interested in it however they decide to go.
I liked the Ultimate Edition CATS DVD filmed version of the show. My only
disappointment was having Sir John Mills as Gus-The Theatre Cat. I'm mean Sir John
is a great actor, but I really liked the opera send-up in the original show.

As for the "gimmick" of live singing I thought it worked marvelously. The trouble
with the usual way of working, recording the singing before filming begins, is that
it freezes the interpretation of the songs. The genius(IMHO) of recording live on film
is that it more closely integrates the acting and singing. This makes for more
spontaneity in the performance. It greatly increases the immediacy of the performance.
Anne Hathaway's rendition of "I Dreamed A Dream" is a wonder, worthy of an Oscar by itself.
And singing live on film does not preclude multiple takes. After Ann did her first take
of the song Hooper said, "I'm good." But Hathaway insisted on multiple takes. The take
finally used was that first take.

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As for the "gimmick" of live singing I thought it worked marvelously. The trouble
with the usual way of working, recording the singing before filming begins, is that
it freezes the interpretation of the songs. The genius(IMHO) of recording live on film
is that it more closely integrates the acting and singing. This makes for more
spontaneity in the performance. It greatly increases the immediacy of the performance.
Anne Hathaway's rendition of "I Have A Dream" is a wonder, worthy of an Oscar by itself.
And singing live on film does not preclude multiple takes. After Ann did her first take
of the song Hooper said, "I'm good." But Hathaway insisted on multiple takes. The take
finally used was that first take.


I totally agree with your assessment of how the live singing approach helped create the powerful storytelling of and characterizations in LES MISERABLES!

Also, from a pragmatic viewpoint -- how do you pre-record a lengthy musical that is (practically) entirely sung-through?! Spend a considerable time doing the pre-recording, do the rehearsals of the acting part ( including the vital action scenes in the movie), do rehearsals by actors on how to lipsynch with their pre-recorded singing of the entire book&musical score/ do complete the filming, etc -- how long would it have taken them to do that?? And on the budget that the production was given?? And for what -- maybe a note-perfect singing performance which may not necessarily tap all the range of emotions in a story like the novel is about, how do you tie in the pre-recorded singing with the acting aspects, which to me takes precedence in appreciating a movie?

I love Les Miserables, the stage production, and I have seen it 10 times in four different cities in the world ( the most recent was last year and the earliest was in 1988 on Broadway) but while it was emotionally-stirring from the knowledge of the story of Victor Hugo, I did not get a full appreciation of the Hugo monumental novel until I saw the film adaptation!



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