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The ending ruined this movie


This movie was great until it was ruined by that crazy over the top ending. It all started going downhill when Andrew killed Steve. All Steve was doing was trying to console Andrew, and though I understand Andrew's frustration, that's not a logical reason to kill him. (Also, why would you choose to float in the clouds in the middle of a storm for alone time?) This movie then really jumped the shark when Andrew tried to kill his father, and why? Because he was upset about his wife's death that Andrew was partially responsible for? Then of course there's the ridiculous following of Andrew destroying the city and killing innocent people, including him trying to kill his cousin who like Steve was just showing care for him. It's a shame that what was an excellent film for the first half ended like that. Anyone else agree?

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You seem to not get that Andrew had been physically and mentally abused by his father for years. That trauma has warped his mind.

Andrew didn't kill Steve intentionally but once it was done Andrew chose a darker path to escape fault(the Apex predator mentality).

Also the storm? Andrew created that. It was his inner turmoil manifesting.

And due to all the abuse, Andrew really hated his father. It wasn't just because he said some bad words. Did you not get all the hate the father had for his son?

You honestly seemed to have missed that Andrew was suffering greatly and all that good that came from his powers didn't resolve all his anger, depression, and suffering.

The movie is a tragedy.

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I get that Andrew was suffering from abuse from his father, but it doesn't make sense that he would take out his anger by killing innocent people, including trying to kill his caring cousin.

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Andrew said repeatedly that he "didn't know what happened"

And I think that that's the point that we missed but were supposed to get. Andrew went up into the clouds because his rage was boiling over and he created this storm "via" his rage, but he didn't know HOW he created it. Which I think is the reason that he so badly wanted Steven to leave him alone. He didn't know (in that state) what he was capable of, and didn't want to hurt Steve. But the more that Steve pushed him, the more Andrew got out of control and lost his ability to understand what was going on.

Andrew seems to know that he HAS powers, but throughout the movie it's displayed that he either A, doesn't know how strong he is, or B, doesn't actually know how to use them fully or what they'll do. this starts him on a path of basically just saying "screw it" because he can't figure out how to control it all.

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I liked this movie a lot, and part of the reason was because of how realistically they are portrayed. As someone that has been in a situation similar to Andrews (luckily my parents are now divorced) Everything he did made sense. When you are in Andrews position and you don't have many friends and live with someone who is constantly abusing you and you can't do anything about it, anger builds up and turns you into someone you are not. He didn't mean to kill Steve, he got angry and accidently got out of control, which happens to people that have so much suppressed anger (except we don't have superpowers). When Matt saved his dad, he got set off and finally just told himself he is an "apex predator" which he originally said to probably help cope with killing Steve so he wouldn't feel so bad, by the end he was injured, delirious, and in such a *beep* up mind state he didn't really care about the damage he was causing. Don't dislike this movie for the reasons you listed, its a great movie, I advise you to watch it again but don't focus on how how Andrew acted wasn't portrayed realistically, because I can assure you it was.

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You know nothing about depression. I've been through all this. I blamed everyone around for my pain, constantly made lame excuses for myself and even hurt myself just for the fact that I existed. You don't get it at all.


My momma loved me but she died
Hud Bannon

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Are you a troll? I have suffered with depression for about 8 years. You never blame anyone, but yourself. Thinking yourself not worth while. All the books and therapy i have had its never once been said the person with depression blames others. I think i call a faker.

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i have had its never once been said the person with depression blames others.
Fiance cheated on and left me. I blamed that b!tch for years.




No f@cking sh`t lady does it sound like I'm ordering a pizza!

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Maybe your brand of depression was different? I've also dealt with it for many years and there are absolutely people other than myself who get blame, whether or not they deserved it in reality, especially family. If all the books and therapy you've been exposed to say that all depression is rooted in the same cause and follows the same course, you should probably switch doctors and libraries.

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Because the alien rock changed his personality too. It didn't just change his powers. This kind of story has been made as well before. Watch Supernova (2000) it illustrates the change in personality very well. This was kinda a remake:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0134983/

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The close encounter didn't change any of their personalities, their experiences did.

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I totally agree with your response. I couldnt have said it better.

and true its a tragedy, but I think its a beautiful Tragedy.

Why am I such a misfit? I am not just a nitwit.

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NO , I swear they must of used an unfinished early script draft.For the beginning scenes prior to them discovering they're powers.For this movie , and it was quite obvious.


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I agree. I also thought it was an excellent movie up until Steve was killed, after that it quickly took a nosedive and never recovered. I don't think turning Andrew into such an overtly obvious villain, showing absolutely no regret for anything, was a smart move at all. His transformation from being a "relatively nice guy with a dark side who without really meaning to got Steve killed" to "one-dimensional kill-all villain" happened too fast and wasn't handled well. It probably shouldn't have happened at all. The film should have lingered on the aftermath of Steve's death (though I don't think it was necessary for him to die at all, they could have killed off someone else), and Andrew's fate should have been another - he should have been written to keep at least some of his humanity. It would have been more interesting to see him struggle against becoming evil, instead he completely surrendered to 'the dark side' way too quickly and way too much. As it was now, when Andrew died I didn't feel sympathy for him anymore. The ending in Tibet was supposed to be emotional and make you reminisce Andrew as a nice person but for me that didn't work at all. All I could think was 'no Matt, *beep* Andrew, because ultimately he turned out to be psycho monster." Such a shame. I was really let down by how the last 30-or-something minutes of the film was handled. I know some try to plead the "he had a *beep* life" card but come on, considering all the things Andrew did, in cold blood, you just can't use his abusive father and sick mother as a way of trying to make his actions seem righteous or even understandable anymore.

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Agreed.

They spend the whole movie focusing on Andrew.

They build the friendship between Andrew-Steve-Matt.

Then, they kill off Steve.

Then, they refocus the movie on Matt. Oh, OK, so -Matt- is the hero.

Basically, this is a movie that didn't have a third act. Very disappointing, as the first two were tremendous.

(Also, the subplot with Matt and the girl? wtf? that just was a complete non-sequitur dead end. completely superfluous.)

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The thing is that we are already presented with Andrews villain back story in the beginning of the film.

His mom is dying, his dad is extremely abusive, he has been ostracised or bullied by virtually everyone his own age throughout most of his life (no friends).

He doesnt trust people and compulsively uses the camera as a safety barrier since that allows him to keep a spectators distance to everybody.

The reason that he gets the camera in the firt place is to document proof of his dads abuse, as a method of intimidation.


Given that type of background its hardly surprising that he would snap and go ballistic after his mom dies. Especially since he was at the same time struggling with the guilt and grief of having caused the death of Steve, a guy who he realized actually was a true friend.


I would certainly not claim that any of this makes his rampage justifiable, but definitely understandable. A guy who has been stepped on his whole life suddenly gets god-like power and can do as he pleases? Add total emotional meltdown on top of that and you have a recipe for disaster.



Supposedly sane people IRL snap and kill others for far lesser reasons than these. Look at spousal murders.

Supposedly sane people IRL join violent hate groups because they are bored, ignorant or didnt get enough attention as kids.


I actually think Andrews reasons were exaggerated in comparison.


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The thing is that we are already presented with Andrews villain back story in the beginning of the film.

His mom is dying, his dad is extremely abusive, he has been ostracised or bullied by virtually everyone his own age throughout most of his life (no friends).

He doesnt trust people and compulsively uses the camera as a safety barrier since that allows him to keep a spectators distance to everybody.

The reason that he gets the camera in the firt place is to document proof of his dads abuse, as a method of intimidation.


Given that type of background its hardly surprising that he would snap and go ballistic after his mom dies. Especially since he was at the same time struggling with the guilt and grief of having caused the death of Steve, a guy who he realized actually was a true friend.

I understand all this and that's partly why I think it was a mistake to make him a cold-blood villain and then not at all make the viewer reminisce how he was before. Andrew's villain back story was terrific but at the end it was too easy to forget all about it because all you could see was this super villain that it was very easy not to sympathize with. We should have gotten to see at least a tiny glimpse of humanity left in him, it would have made you think about how he was before and it would have made you sympathise more for him as a villain. It would have made his death more emotional than it was. Andrew's back story was underutilized in the second half of the film, maybe especially during the fight between him and Matt but also earlier than that: like in the scene where he kills people on the street and takes their wallets without even blinking. The writers should have made him blink, just to drag out his transformation from a troubled kid to a villain. The transformation happened too fast now.

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If this had been an ongoing series, then I think more introspection and doubt would be fitting for Andrew.


The entire last act consists of him having a violent outburst. First against his dad (who in all fairness tried to pummel a seemingly unconscious Andrew) then against the cops, who gave him the excuse of acting in self defense.

Enraged people rarely take a time out in the middle of a fight to ask themselves 'hold on... am I going overboard with this?' The questions usually come afterwards.

For that reason I think it would have felt forced for Andrew to stop and try to analyze the situation. He was too busy fighting.


As for the mugging... those guys were implied to have been bullying Andrew. I believe that was the reason why he targeted them rather than simply attacking some random people. Which to me suggests that he wasn't really all that
monstrous. He also showed restraint against the gas station clerk who clearly didn't suffer any serious injuries from Andrew's attack.

Levelling downtown was IMO the worst thing Andrew did. But even that was quite understandable. He was being actively attacked by Matt and dozens of police officers. Nevermind that he started the mess, he would still defend himself, like virtually anybody else would. In addition, this took place while Andrew was doped up to his eyeballs, due to his extensive burns. That probably messed up his level of control as well.



Thats my perspective anyway. But you are making good points. I guess we can agree to disagree?





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Never ceases to amaze me how people seems to completely miss the big picture sometimes.

The movie didn't jump the shark. The story was coherent from start to finish (unlike the direction). Power corrupts. Unlimited power rots you to the bones.
His killing Steve and everything that comes after that is a natural organic progression of the character and the story. It was only a matter of time until he started acting out and taking the frustration and rage that had been building inside him for years, out on others. Of course he was going to start with his prime tormentor and the bullies who'd been making his life miserable and when Steve tries to get to him, he was trying to kill himself, and instead ends up killing Steve.

His rationalization of that atrocious event and of losing control of his powers, was to deem himself "superior", an "apex predator" that shouldn't feel guilt or remorse over his actions. His mother was the only thing that was still anchoring him to the reality of his humanity but when she dies, he just loses everything and devolves into complete paranoia and rage.

If you eliminate the main plot because you prefer seeing a bunch of kids have fun with their superpowers, I recommend Spy Kids. Maybe you'll find someone you can identify with in there.

For every lie I unlearn I learn something new - Ani Difranco

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I think you've got it spot on. I enjoyed the story in this, the human aspect, that power ultimately corrupts and destroys. I think it was well portrayed.

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Your rationale doesn't take into account that Matt had the same powers but was not corrupted. Indeed, Matt clearly HATED what Andrew forced him to do to bring the mayhem to an end.

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It does. Matt is anchored much different in his world. He has a clear moral compass. For Andrew the superpower is all that makes him special. Matt without superpower would just go on as before.
And as already mentioned, Andrew needed the philosophy that his superpowers morally allow him to do what he wants to cope with the accidental murder, something Matt does not have on his consience.

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Silly teenie drama complete with the emo rant.

Amy: I swear to God...I swear to God! That is NOT how you treat your human!

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Because he was upset about his wife's death that Andrew was partially responsible for?


Andrew was most certainly NOT responsible for his mother's death. How do you figure that? She was terminally ill. His father was an abusive monster and I had no sympathy for that man whatsoever. He was partly responsible for what ensued with all the abuse Andrew had been suffering at that alcoholic's hands (most likely for years).

It wasn't right that he was killing innocent people, but I think at that stage Andrew snapped. Steve was a good person and copped it when he shouldn't have.
Andrew's father was a POS.

Don't let anyone ever make you feel like you don't deserve what you want.

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I totally agree, it turned to a bad movie when Steve died. Too bad cause the first hour was very good. I rate it 7 (8-9 for the first part, 4-5 for the ending).

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