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Don't we already have the A-Team?

posted 14 years ago by artimak
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Since no one else has posted a thread about this show yet, I thought I'd throw a few questions out and see if anyone's even looking at this page...

I just read that Renegades will feature the G.I. Joe characters as "renegades" accused of a crime they didn't commit and fighting Cobra while on the run from the law. So, I have to ask, why not just watch the A-Team?

What's the point of having a G.I. Joe show where they're just rehashed A-Team characters? Can't we just get an *actual* G.I. Joe series for once? Who runs these franchises and why can't they figure out what people want from classic properties like Transformers and Joe?

[–] Deathlok_Lives 14 years ago

I think the A team will be the theme to season one.
Like every other cartoon in the last 15 years, they will probably change the subtitle every year, like power rangers did.

[–] artimak 14 years ago

You're probably right, Dharma. I was just annoyed when I found out they'd be "wrongly accused of a crime, running from the law, trying to prove their innocence, and helping individuals and communities along the way." They actually *could* just go make an A-Team cartoon.

I'm not particularly fond of the animation I've seen so far either, but I'm really trying to bite my tongue a bit until I get to see the show on October 10th... Maybe it'll be really good and surprise me. Still, it'll have to be better than Resolute, and I think that's going to be near impossible from what I've seen and heard.

[–] Deathlok_Lives 14 years ago

We really havn't seen much on the animation as of yet. Even a few shots of it over on hisstank were the photoshop stills used in the original Hasbro presentation.

The show will not air on Oct 10th that will be the Hub sneak preview. I know TF will be delayed. I think we will see it shortly afterwards, as Oct 10th is a sunday. & the show is slated to run M-F.

[–] artimak 14 years ago

One of the most recent issues of ToyFare magazine had some pictures in it. The animation is so stylized that it makes it (at least to me) unappealing.

[–] Tnaza13 14 years ago

Why wouldn't they just go with what seems to work? The movie failed and Resolute was great. Why lean more towards the movie? Hopefully one day someone will see that us 30 somethings would want to see our versions of what we think GI JOE should be like. No mixing races and relationships. No super futuristic weapons. Make it relate to what we know. I remember the toys almost or sometimes looking like actual military vehicles. Pre 1987 that is.

Skystriker - F-14 Tomcat
Rattler - Somewhat of a A-10 thunderbolt

I could see cobra having odd weapons, they were a terrorist group. Like the Trouble bubbles and CLAWS. Something cheap and expendable.

Just punch me in the face. Please.

[–] artimak 14 years ago

All the boys in H-Wood feel like they have to take a popular, established, and well-loved property and "make it their own." This usually means dumbing it down, changing everything, and leaving only a random tidbit here or there to remind longtime fans of what they're really missing.

[–] artimak 13 years ago

I was right. I didn't think I'd be particularly impressed with the "A-Team" take on the Joes, and it's now officially confirmed. I'm not tremendously impressed after the first two episodes. This feels way more like David Carradine's "Kung Fu" series than it does "G.I. Joe."

Where does Hollywood dig up these lame writers...? If the comic books can continue making excellent Joe stories, why don't they just hire the writers for the TV programs? The original series and Resolute are both head and shoulders above this fluff. Sheesh.

[–] julito32 13 years ago

i caught it also, and watched it back to back with an episode from the 80's. Now, I'm not in the animation business but I can't for the life of me figure out why animation these days just plain...sucks.
Or rather, I should say, the art or drawings, looks almost like Flash web animations. Crude, cheaply made. Look at the Sunbow/Marvel stuff and it's so detailed and more - I hate to say it - lifelike than this overtly cartoony look that studios crank out these days. Everything Sunbow/Marvel did in the 80's was spot-on from Transformers to JEM, Inhumanoids to even RoboCop.

Animation these days is a joke. And don't get me started on anime since I dont believe movement should be visualized by a still figure with moving speed lines.

[–] artimak 13 years ago

Look at the Sunbow/Marvel stuff and it's so detailed and more - I hate to say it - lifelike than this overtly cartoony look that studios crank out these days

Exactly, Julito. I thought the same thing while watching these new episodes. How can a quarter century pass by and animation take such an obvious nose-dive? The characters in the original G.I. Joe series *looked* human - as you pointed out, they were incredibly lifelike. It's like the animators gave up on making these new characters look realistic and turned them into a bunch of strangely stylized, sharp-angled jokes.

It makes you wonder how that happens during development... "Hey, I have an idea! It's too hard to make cartoon characters with realism, plus kids love all that weird, edgy, super-stylized stuff in other kiddie shows... So let's do that with G.I. Joe too!"

"Good idea! I have an idea for plot also! Instead of having G.I. Joe be a cohesive, elite anti-terrorist group fighting Cobra all over the world, let's just rip off the "A-Team" or "Kung Fu" and have a handful of the same guys traveling around the country on an extended "help-your-neighbor" roadtrip!"

"Sweet!"

"Dude!"

"SWEEEEEEEEET!!!!!!"

"DUUUUUUUUUDE!!!!!!"

[–] drei85 13 years ago

Yeah, they should listen to the words to that almost iconic theme song they never use.

[–] yamidarknessarchfiend 13 years ago

so Im home for the holidays and happened to have this show on the tv... one of my parents asked me if it was an animated A-Team...

[–] artimak 13 years ago

THAT IS (sadly, unfortunately) HILARIOUS!!!!!! I don't know whether to or

[–] mr_dant 13 years ago

ur right i said it the same thing. I watch it for the GI JOE names but that is it

I watch too many movies.....