Whats with all the hate.


Why all the hate, i agree season 1 was weak, but the rest where very good , i might even say that the storyline in wich korra needs to find herself again is the best storyline in the whole universe, i love weak korra, it shows that she is human and its a little more depressing i'm a fan of that .

So while i agree that season 1 was meh, 2 was a little better season 3 and 4 were amazing.

And the storyline about the first avatar was pretty great as well.

The worst things were the bending tournament and the love triangle.
Compared to most shows this is an amazing achievement.

everyone should stop comparing the shows , they are totally diffrent, and both good as a separate entity

reply

Agreed.

Although I loved season 1 and think it's easily the second best next to 3.

Can't stop the signal.

reply

Although I loved season 1 and think it's easily the second best next to 3.


As do I! Season 1 was fab. The only one I was lukewarm on was S2.

Amon and Zaheer were truly awesome. Even though I definitely prefer ATLA over TLOK I might honestly prefer Amon and Zaheer over Ozai and Azula, much as I love them all.

---
Pride is not the opposite of shame, but its source. True humility is the antidote to shame.

reply

I think Zaheer was TLOK's best villain and Amon it's creepiest.

Can't stop the signal.

reply

I think LOK suffers from the Phantom of Menace syndrome... The nostalgia and the hype affected LOK since everybody wanted it to be ATLA so bad many fans still reject Korra. But even do I still like ATLA more, I personally think LOK is one of the best animated series out there.

I do have some issues with LOK:
. I also like the weak Korra arc, it´s an even more poetic journey than Aang´s journey. The problem is that every season has a different story arc which automatically affects Korra´s character by repeating the same process every season: Korra starts as an annoying brat, she gets her ass kicked, she becomes weak and insecure of herself, regains her confidence and reinforces her spiritual connection, defeats the bad guys and saves the day. As already mentioned the problem is that when they repeated this process 4 times it became really frustrating to have Korra start as an annoying and weak character because every season had a different story.
. I think many have already discussed the love triangle in the first 2 seasons... It really affected Mako and Korra´s characters, considering they are actually 2 of the best characters in LOK, but thankfully that whole arc was over in s2 which actually made me sympathise more with this 2 characters (I don´t count Asami since she was used more as a plot device in the first 2 seasons and I think nobody found her annoying, including myself, and of course she started to gain more protagonism in seasons 3 and 4)
. And not really a mistake but I think they should have made Unalaq/Vaatu the finale boss instead of Kuvira, because I think this could be considered the climax of the avatar cycle: the battle between good and evil. I liked seasons 3 and 4 more than 2, but I think with some changes here and there the Vaatu arc should have served as the season finale arc

In general this are my 3 biggest concerns with the show but in general it has WAY more pros than cons... Amon´s character was awesome, The Beginings eps are easily among the top 5 of both series. Season 3 was my favorite season of both series along with s3 of ATLA and I think Zaheer was the coolest villain of both series.

I understand everybody some people has concerns with LOK and I agree because it´s not a perfect. But surely it´s one of the best animated series out there and doesn´t deserve the hate it gets

reply

As someone who doesnt have any nostalgia towards star wars.... i still tought the phantom mencance was disgraceful.

Other than that totally agree.

reply

And not really a mistake but I think they should have made Unalaq/Vaatu the finale boss instead of Kuvira,


I'm glad they didn't because that's just the DBZ syndrome. Each big bad is more ridiculously overpowered than the last.

Can't stop the signal.

reply

I think a lot of it does have to do with the fact that Avatar was so great and people had nostalgia towards it and maybe LoK was too different?

I'm lucky, I got into Avatar literally months before LoK premiered, so LoK legit felt like just another season of Avatar.

Personally I like that it's so different from Avatar. Kept things from getting stale. Instead of having one singular villain and having the group go on one big grand adventure, LoK did more "seasonal" villains, and I liked that. And stuff like technology being developed with the Sato Mobiles and radio and everything was awesome.

I'd say that Book 3 is my favorite of LoK, but Book 1 is a VERY close second. Then Book 4, then 2. Book 2 is always the hardest to get through IMO.

reply

Personally I like that it's so different from Avatar. Kept things from getting stale. Instead of having one singular villain and having the group go on one big grand adventure, LoK did more "seasonal" villains, and I liked that. And stuff like technology being developed with the Sato Mobiles and radio and everything was awesome.


Completely agree with everything. It felt both like a new season, and yet was different enough to not feel like the same old, same old.

I love the seasonal villains. Kept each season fresh.

Can't stop the signal.

reply

I feel like the point of Kuvira was to take the story full circle and basically give us the Fire Nation's early conquest. I think it's a fanastic way to connect ATLA and TLOK on a more subtle level and connect ATLA's first season with Korra's last.

---
Pride is not the opposite of shame, but its source. True humility is the antidote to shame.

reply

You guys are delusional if you believe the only reason TLOK gets hate is because we compare it to ATLA.

Might as well add the same argument to the movie, the only reason it sucks is because we compare it to the original series, derp.

I'm tired of talkin, Fuchs. I just wanna get up to my shack and get drunk.

reply

The movies sucked because they sucked, tell me what was so bad about this show that it deserves all this hate without comparing it to aang.

reply

Well, if you're going to use that argument, guess I could defend the movie the same way, people only hate it because they compare it to the show.

The same can be said about that moron PreachCaleb's argument of "wanting something different from ATLA", so it is a valid argument to defend the movie, amirite?

Perhaps the greatest flaw in The Legend of Korra is the protagonist herself: Korra. Instead of having a character the audience can easily relate to, she is an arrogant character who is constantly motivated by ego and self gratification. Most of the time she is irrational and rarely thinks of the consequences of her acts.

You'd think the writers gave her all these negative traits so that she can learn from her mistakes, but that never happens. I'm not even talking of Season 1 at this point, she never learns a damn thing in the whole series, even in Season 4 she decides to abandon everyone without thinking of the consequences. The Red Lotus is still out there, there are bandits all over the Earth Kingdom, she hasn't recovered from the fight against Zaheer, and yet, she decides to travel the world all alone.

Most of Korra side kicks are poorly written, and some additions are baffling to me, especially Mako and Asami, who are basically cardboard characters that were created for the sake of having a love triangle. The only good characters I can think of are Tenzin, Lin and Varrick. In fact, Korra and Tenzin should merge into a new character called "Tenzin".

Tenzin should be the protagonist of the show because the audience can easily relate to him and his character's arc is far more interesting than anything Korra has to offer (at least in Season 1). His background is far richer, he has the task of teaching how to Airbend to the new Avatar, and you feel that there's development in his character, from the serious man who rarely shows his emotions at the start of the series to a more open and fun family man at the end.

I'm tired of talkin, Fuchs. I just wanna get up to my shack and get drunk.

reply

[deleted]

[deleted]

if you think S3 and 4 where amazing you must like Justin Beiber because you have terrible taste, theres a reason why they quit the show because they where out of good ideas after S2

-People sure do get angry if you don't like the same things they do

reply

I liked all seasons,but i liked weak korra in 3 and 4 the best. Sorry man.

reply

Season 3 was the show's best.

A great nuanced villain with goals that didn't involve conquering the world, and Korra's encounters with him leave her mentally broken for a good portion of the following season.


Can't stop the signal.

reply

Well Zaheer's goal actually was to conquer the world, just not rule over it. His philosophy was the world is meant to operate in chaos and that there should be no laws to dictate how people should leave. The problem as we saw was that chaos would be reigned in quickly when people are tired of it and want it to end by any means necessary, which allowed a despot like Kuvira to rise up.

reply

One of the things I never understood about Zaheer is why he wanted to kill Korra in the Avatar State. Why not just kill her while she's unconscious, kidnap the new Avatar as a baby or a child, and make the Red Lotus an unstoppable force.

That was their original plan after all, so I don't know why Zaheer decided to stop the Avatar cycle.

I'm tired of talkin, Fuchs. I just wanna get up to my shack and get drunk.

reply

He wanted to get rid of all icons of leadership. He didn't want people to look to anyone but themselves.

reply