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How can this film get such a low rating?


Is our society really this shallow and naive to give an insightful movie such as this a low rating simply because it differs from what the mainstream media feeds us on a day to day basis? Some of the ideas and concepts brought up in the film really helped shed some light on the topic of global warming and really made me see it from a completely different perspective. Again, the message of this film wasn't denying global warming; it was simply proposing ways we should prioritize the spending of our money in order to remedy the global problems that we're facing.

I guess the main point of this post is to express my shock for such a low rating given to an incisive and thought-provoking film. Frankly I find it a bit appalling.

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Just checked the rating distribution. 20% of people gave it 1/10 and while 2% of people gave it 2/10 (etc.).

Standard practice these days for non-left wing documentaries.

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Politics.

There is no tolerance for even a slight deviation from the party-line in politics. Lomborg's ideas are left-wing, but his solutions do not fall in line with those solutions already proposed by the AGW segment so they must be squashed. They are too logical and logic has no place in politics.

~Sig~

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What climate science needs is not faith, not ideas unsupported by accurate data, but solid peer-reviewed work by scientists with adequate experience.

Lomborg is not a climate scientist; his background is in economics and poli sci. Why would you take his word on anything related to climate science?

Judging from the rampant dishonesty in his published work, I'd say charlatan, showman and opportunist would be more accurate adjectives.

An excellent full-length book by investigative journalist Howard Friel dissects Lomborg's "Skeptical Environmentalist" almost paragraph by paragraph. It's a powerful, accessible and utterly damning expose.

Here is Friel's response to Lomborg's comments about Friel's book, The Lomborg Deception.

http://yalepress.yale.edu/yupbooks/HFResponseToLomborgFeb262010.pdf

Ok, you might say, so he's not a climate scientist. Isn't he qualified to evaluate the economics of climate change?

Read this and you'll see that sloppy work and a disturbing predilection for spin mar Lomborg's work in this area as well.

http://www.ase.tufts.edu/gdae/Pubs/rp/Hot_its_not08.pdf

In short, Lomborg is the Erich Von Daeniken of climate change economics.

~There is a crack in everything, that's how the light gets in.~

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Well that's surprising. You leap to believe the non-climate scientist who agrees with you. How about that?

Burn the witch Lomborg!

~Sig~

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Well that's surprising. You leap to believe the non-climate scientist who agrees with you. How about that?

Burn the witch Lomborg!

How melodramatic. Did any scholars “burn” Erich von Daeniken? Or did they simply do what is incumbent on professionals in a democratic society – expose von Daeniken’s claims to the disinfecting light of critical scrutiny? That is all that has been done by climate scientists, economists and investigative journalists to Lomborg’s claims.

I guess I’ll never understand people like you. If I were encountering something new, something which I’d cared enough to start a post about, I’d make a conscientious effort to do the requisite reading before posting. Obviously, you didn’t read the links, to say nothing of doing a little additional follow-up. This sort of carelessness is convenient if one wishes to suffer from confirmation bias, but an intrepid searcher after truth would have to do much better. S/he would have to make an effort to know what s/he is talking about.

As you would have known had you read the link, Howard Friel’s book does not pretend to be an original, peer-reviewed work of climate science (or even of the economics of climate science.) Instead, it’s an investigative journalist’s inquiry into the quality of Lomborg’s scholarship.

Anyone with an ounce of intelligence and diligence – any good student, for example - could do what Friel does - check Lomborg’s own references. Indeed, it’s the only way to sort through the noise in the current global warming “controversy” – if you can speak of controversy where more than 97% of all climate scientists agree that the past half-century’s dramatic increase in global temperatures is largely man-made.

To cite one just example, Friel shows how Lomborg ransacks portions of the IUCN reports on polar bears while ignoring others. Again and again, in one paragraph after another, Friel quotes from Lomborg’s own sources to demonstrate that Lomborg misrepresented findings, ignored key conclusions, overgeneralized, withheld key evidence, referenced non-existent figures, drawing conclusions that are not supported by his own sources, etc. And he did so much of it that Friel could fill up a densely but concisely worded book dedicated solely to Lomborg’s research methodology. Read it and see if you don’t agree that The Skeptical Environmentalist and Cool It are appallingly sloppy and dishonest books, riddled with willful errors and misrepresentations on every page.

How do I know Friel is right? I didn’t take Friel’s word for it. I went over many of the cited references myself. (I own hard copies of both the latest IPCC and the ACIA , but virtually all of the references are available online anyway).

The second link I sent you should have been self-explanatory. It is a critical examination of Lomborg’s economic methodology by an economist.
Oh, and now you know why real climate scientists don’t bother with Lomborg.

Lomborg doesn’t do any peer-reviewed climate science.


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As you would have known had you read the link, Howard Friel’s book does not pretend to be an original, peer-reviewed work of climate science (or even of the economics of climate science.) Instead, it’s an investigative journalist’s inquiry into the quality of Lomborg’s scholarship.

And like I said, of course you have no problem believing a non-climate scientist when he agrees with your politics.

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Agree, typical due to all the snot nose kids that live at IMDB. I gave the movie a 10, not that I agree with everything in it

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Economics is not a science. It's most often used to do things that go against real science.

Right now, we are about to record the newest Hottest Year on Record. 2015 was the 39th consecutive year with above-average temperatures. And, the Hottest has been broken 3 years in a row.

Currently, the Arctic is experiencing a massive heat wave. It has been 50 degrees above normal.

This planet doesn't care about what any economist says about what is good for the economy. It does react to how those policies affect the environment.

As to "snot nosed kids", there is currently only 1 (one) vote by someone under 18.

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