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When Robert came up to Sara's room and admitted he ran up the stairs so as to avoid the lift operator, it was expected he would be out of breath, but when he lurched forward and started gasping, I couldn't figure out if he had vomited due to all the drinking, dancing, etc.

That was kind of a shock especially since I was expecting a night of sweet love.

But after he asked for his amyl nitrate we know now he has a heart condition.

Thank God Sara is so efficient she ran down to his room to get the medication.

But what a sad ending to lovely night - I do find it very brazen of Sara to invite him to dinner, then proposition him. I haven't read the book so I'm not sure if her personality comes through like that.

Can't wait for next week's ep!



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I do find it very brazen of Sara to invite him to dinner, then proposition him. I haven't read the book so I'm not sure if her personality comes through like that.

Yes – it's like that in the book. It takes place in Book VI: Mental Deficiency, in Chapter 6, Two in a Hotel are Temporarily Insane. Which I think says it all. It was a very, very bad idea for both of them.

She was deliberately getting him drunk to seduce him. Mind, we're told he has a track-record of one-night stands, since his wife was committed, and they don't mean much to him:
He had not been surprised by her advances. He knew that women found him attractive, and he liked them. These brief and casual encounters had made the bitter tragedy of his marriage bearable. They meant nothing to him after they were over but a certain flattery, a certain gratitude, a certain memory of passing pleasure. He hoped that the women enjoyed them as much as he did.


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Thank you for clarifying that! And that chapter title makes perfect sense now - I don't recall in any of the episodes shown so far that he has one-night stands.

What about Sara? Was there something in episode one about a boyfriend/fiance/husband who was killed in WWI?

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I don't recall in any of the episodes shown so far that he has one-night stands.

They didn't show it, but in the book, we're told he has a history of it.
What about Sara? Was there something in episode one about a boyfriend/fiance/husband who was killed in WWI?

For some reason, this adaptation has decided to really play up the legacy of WW1 side of things. In the book, Roy Carbery was just the first of Sarah's fiancés (she's had 3!), a boy she'd been in love with when they were both students. She subsequently got engaged to an Afrikaaner farmer, Jan van Raalt, in South Africa, whom she dumped over his racism, and later to a Labour MP, Ben Latter, with whom she broke up because he wanted her to sacrifice her career to his (and who was horrified when she suggested becoming his mistress instead!). There have been a number of other men, too: one gets the impression she was very much a flapper in the '20s!

In fact, we're told Sarah has a history of falling in love frequently and with unsuitable men. I think she seems to be drawn to domineering men (kind of father-figures?)* because of her dysfunctional childhood (a violent, alcoholic father who lamed her little sister by dropping her when he was drunk); but because of her strong personality, she hates being dominated once in a relationship, so gets out. She and Robert know that what they're doing is wrong and could never, ever work. What I find so sad about it is that she has an eminently compatible, lovely man who would do anything for her, and is always there when needed, right under her nose (and he's a widower!). At least in the book, there's a hope that she comes to realise this… but possibly almost too late.

*Interestingly, in the book, she's especially drawn to Robert after she sees him sit up all night to watch over Midge when the girl has measles: being the 'good' father she herself never had.

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Holy cow! This show has been unbelievably sanitized! Thanks for explaining all - now I really do have to read the book!

Thanks for such a detailed clarification.


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Holy cow! This show has been unbelievably sanitized!

And somewhat depoliticised. What irked some of us with the foregrounding of the war theme in this version was them claiming Joe was a war veteran. He is, but not in that way. In the book, he was imprisoned as a conscientious objector (1916-18), soon after he qualified as a schoolteacher. He then worked as a left-wing journalist in trouble-spots (including Dublin c 1919-21). He has a bad chest because he got TB when he was working as a union organiser among Black miners in South Africa.
Thanks for explaining all - now I really do have to read the book!

The book is marvellous: it's a portrait of a whole community, with lots of supporting characters and storylines that have been axed from this adaptation. (The 1974 adaptation is far more faithful, and has 13 episodes, so you get to know everyone!)

I first read it as a teenager in Hull (Kingsport, in the SR universe) in 1980, and loved it. It's the era of my mother's childhood in the area, too. As I posted in another thread, last week, while down visiting my parents, I actually went to see the house in Hornsea where some of the book was written, and the owner very kindly let me in to see the back parlour, where Winifred used to write.

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To be fair to Andrew Davies, he sounds rather bitter about being allocated just three hours to tell the story. This is from his introduction to the tie-in version of the novel:

Adapting South Riding for television has been a fascinating challenge. When Stan Barstow adapted it in the 70s (with Dorothy Tutin in the lead), he had thirteen 50-minute episodes to play with - we had only three hours in which to tell a complex story. Inevitably, some characters and plotlines had to go, and readers coming to the book after watching the adaptation will find many new things to marvel at. But I hope we've been successful in capturing the essence of the novel, and in introducing Winifred Holtby to a new generation of readers.

Oh, for those halycon days of thirteen-part series!
One of my favourite Andrew Davies adaptations was R F Delderfield's "To Serve Them All My Days". This was of similar vintage and length. Thank goodness it was made when it was, and not today.



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I remember To Serve Them All My Days, too! Didn't know it was Davies's dramatisation.

And yet… Crappy soaps and clichéd cop and hospital dramas are allowed never-ending runs now! Why?!

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I loved TSTAMD. I have it on DVD, and I think Andrew Davies did a wonderful job. It's a HUGE novel and, thank goodness, Davies had the luxury of thirteen or so hours.

I'm with you on the soaps/cop/hospital dramas. I watch very few of them now.



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Actually, it makes me wonder why they did remake it and not just re-screen the 1974 version? It was made by YTV, but C4 repeated it in the '80s, and it is out on DVD.

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