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I was quite disappointed by this. I expected a lot from it given that it was the BBC & Andrew Davies. Perhpas it was the fault of the story? I haven't read the book and would not be enthused to do so having seen this. The plot was unengaging. I just didn't care what happened to the protaganists. The main character was mildly interesting and I suppose I rooted for the girl to return to school, but beyond that it was faily dull and insipid. I'm glad it only ran for 3 episodes, I'm not sure I'd have watched any more.

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Perhaps it was the fault of the story?

No. The problem there has been with it is that it has been over-condensed and rushed. It's a slow-growing story, where you get to know the characters and their community over the course of 3 years.

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Yes agreed with Silverwhistle. I was deeply annoyed how several events, one major were cobbled together very quickly in last night's ep. Do try the book you'll not say it's the fault of the story then.

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I think the problem was that this is a big book with many different characters and sub-plots. (I've not yet started to read it, but I've had a good flick through!) In the introduction to my edition, Andrew Davies says that he had "only three hours in which to tell a complex story". He says that "some characters and plotlines had to go". It may be that he didn't prune enough. Given only three hours, perhaps he should have concentrated solely on Sarah and her career, and her relationships with Robert and Joe. But then it wouldn't have been South Riding!

Give us a longer series, that's the answer.




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The IMDb rating would suggest this hasn't been hugely well received so the original OP is not alone (although the middle episode did get a healthy 7.20 million according to BARB), I'm probably going against the tide here but I did enjoy this adaptation.

That said, I'm not familiar with the book or previous adaptations so have nothing to compare it to - although appreciate it was very condensed. Taking it as a stand alone 3 parter I enjoyed it, thought it well acted with some great dramatic scenes. For instance, I don't know how it was handled originally but I thought the ambiguity of Robert's death was well done - it certainly had me guessing. I also thought Penelope Wilton was marvellous as Mrs Beddows, with her suppressed love for Robert.

I do agree with others though, that this had the potential to be so much more if it had been given more episodes to do it in.

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I thought it was good, but being a book-fan, was just all too aware of what was missing. I can understand dropping a lot of the sub-plots and supporting characters, but I thought it was a bad idea to make out it was all happening over 6 months instead of 3 years! (No wonder Lydia was upset about Barney's remarriage to Jessie in that time-frame!)

I thought Emma Beddows' love for Robert was well-handled, as in the book. It's weird how people can accept (in fiction and in life) much-older men and much-younger women; but a much-older woman has to suppress and hide her feelings for a man over 20 years her junior.

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Give us a longer series, that's the answer. []

Exactly! The 1974 version remains definitive: 13 episodes of 50 mins each.

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Well, this adaptation does dwell too much upon the negative.

And, if the production company had to condense the story, then it does make one wonder their reasoning for including too many insipid and downbeat elements.

And that business about shooting the injured horse certainly doesn't help to advance any uplifting elements of "South Riding."

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Well, this adaptation does dwell too much upon the negative.

Really? For a start, one major character no longer has TB in it.
And it was too kind to Midge, who is a nasty little brat.

On the whole, I thought it overemphasised romance at the expense of politics.
And that business about shooting the injured horse certainly doesn't help to advance any uplifting elements of "South Riding."

It's in the book, and makes some important character points: Snaith's views on small animals (I wonder if any of his cats have ever fallen victim to the hunt?) and on property, and Robert's failure to insure the horse.

The 1974 YTV serialisation is a classic: 10 hrs in 13 episodes.

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I thought Anna Maxwell Martin was well-cast, but that the writing was the problem. The story has been gutted, oversimplified and reduced almost to caricature by trying to pour it into 3 episodes.

Yes, Sarah's behaviour over Robert Carne is irritating – she ought to know better, but she's got form in this kind of thing: quite a history of unsuitable lovers. (She lost most of her back-story in this adaptation: Robert was the only person who really kept his.) But at least the book gives a small hint that she finally comes to her senses. We've been shown, quite pointedly, that she is very methodical in handling her correspondence: everything gets filed into baskets – personal, business, letters to be answered. So for her to be carrying a man's letter in her handbag for 3 days and re-reading it until she almost knows it by heart is suspicious, to put it mildly!

The Holly family story is very well done in the book. There's also a whole cast of supporting characters who were missed out of this adaptation.

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I do have to agree with everyone that this was just too hurried. I was very annoyed with Sarah and found her too over the top with her emotions. I felt so sad for the man she spurned, he would have made a great suitor for her, but she, like most people, want what they can't have.

I suppose the book showed her character in a better light at times, but what we got was an unsympathetic protagonist who doesn't understand the hardships of the people around her, she wanted everything her way and right away. A slower production might have shown her coming to some understandings in a slower way than came through in this one. AS it was, I never warmed up to her, seeing her as a bit of a brat, and at the age she must have been considering she mourned for 20 years for someone else (according to Sam's statement) she must have been an older woman and not a girl which her looks seem to indicate. The war had been over for more than 20 years, yet she looked to be in her mid twenties to me. Her character must have been somewhere between 37-40 considering the age a girl would be engaged to someone before he went off to war. But I was sleepy so I might have missed out a bit on her explanation of her fiance that died in the war. I would have like more background on her than we got. I might have to read the book now, but hate to since I know the ending now.

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I felt so sad for the man she spurned, he would have made a great suitor for her, but she, like most people, want what they can't have.
I think book-fans can be divided into Sarah/Joe shippers and Sarah/Robert shippers. I've been a Joe-fan since I first read the book nearly 31 years ago. He's even more loveable in the book: a bit geeky and socially awkward, but compassionate, and with a seriously heroic past, ruining his health working as a union organiser among Black miners in South Africa (which this adaptation dropped completely). His wife is also completely dead. And he's handsome - tall, thin, "pretty", with "curling ruddy hair". In fact, I'd say he's better-looking than Robert, who's described as looking like Mussolini-but-with-hair! He's also just a couple of years younger than her, whereas Robert is a good 12 years older. He's perfect for Sarah, but she only sees him as a friend, probably at least in part because of his health - he has TB.
As it was, I never warmed up to her, seeing her as a bit of a brat, and at the age she must have been considering she mourned for 20 years for someone else (according to Sam's statement) she must have been an older woman and not a girl which her looks seem to indicate. The war had been over for more than 20 years, yet she looked to be in her mid twenties to me. Her character must have been somewhere between 37-40 considering the age a girl would be engaged to someone before he went off to war. But I was sleepy so I might have missed out a bit on her explanation of her fiance that died in the war. I would have like more background on her than we got. I might have to read the book now, but hate to since I know the ending now.
You need to, because a lot of this was changed, and also because there are lots of other characters and whole storylines that were simply omitted.

Sarah is about 39 (but young-looking) at the start of the book (and the actress is in her mid-30s, so was not badly cast), and the action runs from 1932-35, so she's in her early 40s when it ends.

In the book, the student friend, Roy, who was killed in the war was not "her great love": just the first of 3 fiances and a number of lovers. She has a fairly 'fast' past, in fact. She has tended to go for unsuitable men: dominant/authoritarian types, but then, once in a relationship, she doesn't like being dominated. She was engaged to an Afrikaaner farmer, Jan, with whom she broke over his racism, and then to an MP, Ben, who wanted her to sacrifice her career for his and wasn't amused when she suggested it might be better to be his mistress instead!

She's quite well-drawn psychologically: reminds me a great deal of a woman I used to know, who was, like Sarah, the child of a violent alcoholic (Sarah's father had lamed her sister by dropping her as a child) and had similar issues to Sarah with men: lots of unsatisfactory relationships with 'wrong' men, and took until middle-age to realise she needed a good, steady one. (And with Sarah, the book ends with a possibility still in the air - if she gets a move on with a reply, and gives poor Joe something to hope and live for... He's ill, but he could last for years.)

But, speaking personally, I'd have gone for Joe like a shot! I can't stand Robert.

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My comments were based on the movie alone since I have not read the book. I can only do that. I am pleased you like the book and I may read it some day.

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Thanks, silverwhistle, for telling us more about the book. I will check it out for myself. There was plenty of potential in South Riding, but the producers/writers squandered it with their choppy, high-speed storytelling. That final episode simply felt absurd, with so many major events all cobbled together.

I'm completely fed up with the BBC. Why must they dumb everything down? No wonder we're becoming a planet full of witless sheeple! As a former English professor who grew up during the glory days of British TV and Masterpiece Theatre/Mystery, I'm appalled by the current crop of bodice-ripper crap that purports to be historical (The Tudors) or the gutted versions of literature/classic TV that pass for adaptations these days (Forsyte Saga remake, South Riding, Upstairs, Downstairs revival). It's use it or lose it with our brains, and all this removing characters and condensing stories to sub-Reader's Digest level only hastens the atrophy. I used to have the same argument with some of my colleagues; they kept lowering their curricula to meet the supposedly lower levels of preparedness or intelligence perceived in the youth of the past 20 years. I kept my expectations high, and most students rose to the challenge.

FYI, if the book takes place between 1932-35, then WWI had been over just 14 years at the book's beginning.

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Amen to that Greenegg, very well said.

I've just begun watching the 74 adaptation which is 13 episodes rather than 3, if you haven't seen it I recommend it from what I've seen so far.

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Well, the "Forsyte Saga remake" was ITV, not BBC, but your point still remains. They seem more concerned with a glossy 'cinematic' look than about scripts these days. And they underestimate attention spans. Dross such as The Tudors runs on for weeks and weeks, as do dull medical/cop dramas and soaps, so they clearly can afford it for some things!

I recommend the 13-episode South Riding made by Yorkshire Television in 1974: it's far more faithful to the book.

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