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Not worth a watch if you're not goreomaniac

posted 10 years ago by draftdubya-274-182961
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No back story on why the killer did what they did. No one in this movie you'll feel sorry/bad for.

I thought the reason why she what she was obvious. The accident with her best friend made her snap. They made it clear that she was always trying to be like Carrol and she def wanted to have sex with Carroll. But at the same time she was jealous and had hatred for Carroll. Carroll called her "single white female" a few times. She tried to start acting like Carroll and it backfired which further made her snap.
As for the gore factor, there is really no gore until that one crazy scene which is extremely gorey. Other than that it was more of a psychological thriller.

[–] Foxbarking 10 years ago

Although I think it may seem obvious in the movie as to why Alyce snapped, it is exceptionally unrealistic. I am not saying it has to be realistic; it's a movie. But people go through far worse things than Alyce did and get no where remotely as twisted as she became.

[–] GrimeyRickGrimes 9 years ago

Her craziness was a long time coming. She was never stable. It's not like this just pushed her over the edge from being stable. She never was all there.

[–] Foxbarking 10 years ago

I have to pretty much agree with you on this. I was waiting for something to happen that explained it in plausible details, but this never happened. I saw all of the same things that the other poster saw, but at least in my mind none of that was enough to take her and put her into the situation that she ended up in.

Alyce was obviously not a sociopath at the beginning of the film. She showed amazing amounts of restraint when Carroll was wanting to fight with people. She was obviously upset when Carroll got pushed off the roof. She was clearly upset at several times in the movie. By the end of the film she became a bonafide sociopath showing no emotion at all for people or for her crimes. This sort of thing just doesn't happen. Sociopaths (which is an incorrect term; it's antisocial personality disorder) are generally formed by events like these. The personality disorder develops when they are younger and Alyce was not a sufferer of this disorder. Also, she was clearly sociopathic by the end of this movie, but she spared her boss's life out of pity. Sociopaths do not have pity.

Now, I don't expect movies to be realistic in order to be enjoyable. I liked a bit of this movie until the last part, which really was just unfulfilling and nonsensical. I dunno, it just rubbed me the wrong way.

And I am not trying to invalidate anyone else's opinion of the movie, this is simply how it came across to me.

[–] kinsociojey 10 years ago

Alyce was obviously not a sociopath at the beginning of the film.

Not at the very beginning, no. But the whole discussion with Carroll in the apartment made it very clear that she's not right in the head. It was pretty heavy handed with the SWF reference. They hadn't seen her in a year because they all thought she was nuts. Dialog is important, and I recommend paying attention to it in the future.

As far as being upset when Carroll died...she was more upset when she found out that she was alive. Honestly, it sounds like you didn't actually pay attention to anything in the beginning. I can understand somewhat if you've never heard of SWF, but there was still plenty there to let you know how messed up she is.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0074958/

[–] Foxbarking 10 years ago

Honestly, it sounds like you didn't actually pay attention to anything in the beginning

I paid a lot of attention actually. Please do not make comments about my attention simply because I disagree with your interpretation of the movie.

And yes, I am familiar with "Single White Female." However, Hedy was not a sociopath. Although sociopaths do not have flat affect, it is a common trait among them. A sociopath is less likely to plan an elaborate revenge like Hedy did. And, as I mentioned before, you cannot develop into a sociopath later in life. It doesn't work that way. Personality disorders generally develop before a person is 18.

As far as being upset when Carroll died...she was more upset when she found out that she was alive.

I disagree. She was immensely upset when Carroll died, and immensely upset for different reasons when Carroll was found to be alive.

[–] smitthhh 10 years ago

I thought for a quick second as Alyce was about to push/scare her friend someone had hit Alyce over the head. I thought someone had knocked Alyce out.

[–] kinsociojey 10 years ago

Please do not make comments about my attention simply because I disagree with your interpretation of the movie.

It's not because you disagreed. That doesn't even make sense, since I hadn't said anything yet for you to disagree. Maybe "pay attention" wasn't the correct term, rather "infer." You're making character judgments strictly based what's on screen, when it's clearly implied that she's had these problems for a long time. They stopped hanging out with her because they found out she was a nut, not because she suddenly turned into one. It's reasonable to assume that this started long before even the events of the story (background exposition included).

She wasn't immensely upset that Carroll died. Her only concern was protecting herself.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0074958/

[–] kinsociojey 10 years ago

Sociopaths (which is an incorrect term; it's antisocial personality disorder) are generally formed by events like these.

Here's why I said that you don't know what a sociopath is. I don't know if it's a typo, a miscommunication, or whatever, but that doesn't sound right. But murdering people doesn't transform a person into a sociopath.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0074958/

[–] GrimeyRickGrimes 9 years ago

JakeFlair is the only one saying she is a Sociopath. He is obsessed with the term. It's like he did not even watch the beginning of the movie. You are 100% correct Alyce had always been a little bit off. The movie explains it to us in plain English.

[–] Foxbarking 8 years ago

Yeah because you can come into a conversation a year after it takes place and have any idea what's going on

Let me explain it to you. I am not obsessed with the term sociopath. The conversation about Alice's mental capacity was taking place on several different threads at this time and it was stated by kinsociojey that she was a sociopath in a different thread. As a psychologist, I knew that this could not be the case.

I never said Alice wasn't always a little off. But being a little off does not equal becoming a sociopath later in life. You have to have sociopathic tendencies before the age of 18. That is a diagnostic fact.

Being a little off wouldn't push you over the edge to becoming a vile serial killer like it did with her.

The movie was unrealistic and stupid.

If you're too stupid to know the entire conversation, maybe you should keep your mouth shut because you obviously have no idea what you're talking about.