Setting up Sofia to get raped? And then practically drinking it in while she listened to it happening? What an evil person. I understand that she was going through something absolutely horrible---but to WANT for someone you love to feel the pain you do? You have to be a pretty bad person to wish that on someone. It's incomprehensible to me.
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Yeah, I get that she was pretty miserable but she was so mean to Sofia and took advantage of the fact that she was blind. Not a true friend at all.
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Yeah, and then we're supposed to smile at the end with her because she didn't lie about being on the edge of the cliff.
Oh, she plotted for me to be raped, relished in hearing my cries, manipulated me into believing she was actually a good person because she envied me----BUT, AT LEAST she didn't lie about me being at the edge of the cliff. That just warms my fuzzies to the max x-|
The plot of the rape totally took away any sympathy that I had for her. It's not about being a true friend---it's about being a good human being. I don't care if she was the bitchiest cheerleader in the school---you DON'T set up someone to be raped. Especially Sofia.
I'm just so appalled by it lol disgusted, even. I dont understand how the writer(s)/director would think we could have sympathy for her after that, because I know that's where they were going with it. Big mistake.
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She was severly traumatized and f--ked up, I mean, her own father raped her every night. It's not entirely incomprehensible to me to not want to be alone in your misery...even if it means being glad someone ELSE is getting tortured besides you all the time. She was severely screwed up in the head...there was some perverse pleasure in knowing someone else's innocence got so stolen, so she wasn't just alone in that. Some kind of bitter resentment spawned from her trauma.
But, no, she definitely wasn't the wonderful BFF Sofia thought she was. Even about the boy in the first place, she only encouraged Sofia after the boy lost interest in her haha.
She wanted so badly for another to feel her own misery and innocense taken---yet she protected her sister? That makes no sense. Why on earth would she want to take away the burden from her sister---to the point of having to sacrifice her body to her father---yet force it onto Sofia? She loved both of them, she grew up with Sofia as if she was her own sister. The only thing I can think of is because Eva was just a child when she did all those awful things, and at the point when she protected her little sister, she was already an adult with a clearer head. Who knows. All I know is I was completely appalled by it, and I lost all sympathy I had had for her. It's like the child molesters who were molested as a child as well. Just because you had a trauma, it doesn't give you the right to instill that trauma on other people. You can't expect sympathy when you've become the perpetrator.
I can understand your point in Eva's (evil) actions, to want another to feel your pain---but to actually carry it out, and onto someone you love---I don't understand. I just can't get my head around that. It takes a very disturbed, if not evil, person to do that.
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Yeah, I'm not saying she had a right to do it. It's just not imcomprehensible to me. She seemed to have this sadistic streak born out of her own trauma. Maybe she was jealous of the blind girl (as opposed to her little sister) b/c in her she seemed to have things better, plus she was her equal as far as age, etc. Who knows.
Seems like she was consistently mean in other parts too, pretending to be all protective of her and her blindness yet saying things to her sister like "she's just faking." Maybe she saw the blind one as her punching bag/friend kind of thing.
Anyway...yes it takes a very disturbed person to do that!
I would probably never be able to forgive someone for doing something like that too me!
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I know you weren't saying she had a right to do what she did, I was just venting lol But I don't know, I guess I just never saw it coming. They started with her lying about the blood on Sofia's dress---but I didn't find that to be bad, I saw it as her protecting Sofia. Then the next lie was what she was writing in her diary, about supposively losing her virginity to a guy she liked---but we didn't know that was a lie until later. So, it went from her lying about Sofia's bloodied dress, to her setting Sofia up to get raped. It just seemed to come out of nowhere for me, and I couldn't understand how it went from the first thing to the next. Maybe they should have given small doses leading up to that scene, so I would been better prepared to comprehend it lol
Maybe she was taking out all of her anger from her father's abuse on Sofia. Pretty messed up, I would have understood if she directed it all to her father---may have even cheered her on. But, things never turn out the way you want them too lol
But yes, VERY diturbed person x-|
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Yeah, what a b!tch.
shareSeems to me she was angry that Sophia was literally blind to what was going on in the world, so yeah, I can understand why she'd want Sophia to feel her pain.
But no, continuing the cycle is not going to work. Hate to say it, but sometimes, people who are victims of some kind of crime, they should get evaluated, & if they cant function in the world, then they should be taken out of it.
EDIT: & really, there is a differance between some being your sibling, & everyone else. Parents/ siblings are far different, even when compared to cousins, aunts/ uncles, grandparents, other family etc. There are people that, in theory, you live with for 18 years. Now I realize that doesnt mean that that means siblings will be close, I know I havent spoken with any of my parents siblings familes for 10 years, because my parents arent on the best terms with their siblings. Yes, as people get older, they change, drift apart, get closer, but the expression is "blood is thinker than water". & even that can be broken down to who shares literlly the same blood as you, & who is 1/2 someone else.
Thats just how the world is.
Yeah the movie kind of glossed over why Sofia would want to help solve why she died after finding out the crap Eva put her through!
shareUnfortunately this is an all to common occurrence. many times abused children will abuse their own kids. The cycle has to be broken with lots of help. It is not justified in any way but is understood.
shareHave to agree with you there "Vellex" I get that she was abused but that doesn't give her the right to set her blind cousin up to be raped or for that matter anything else she did to her, that was just nasty & sadistic.
shareI was horrified. Sofia had never done anything to Eva. It wasn't her fault that she didn't know what was going on with Eva. No matter what happened to Eva, she had no right to treat Sofia SO badly, especially while she was pretending to be her friend and care about her.
"Not all who wander are lost."--J.R.R. Tolkien
Eva could have told Sofia what was going on. I thought at first that she was trying to protect her innocence, but when that awful thing in the diary was revealed, that was obviously not the case. But Sofia would have cared, would have tried to help her, or at least would have tried to comfort her. It was just plain evil what Eva did to her.
"Not all who wander are lost."--J.R.R. Tolkien
So she said in the letter that she loved Sofia, but she still treated her horribly and didn't apologize for that.
"Not all who wander are lost."--J.R.R. Tolkien