I don't mind romance at all. The first movie wasn't bad. I thought the acting, with the exception of a few major characters, was terrible. Stewart seemed like a first-year film student to me.
Everyone has different tastes. There are a number of celebs that I can't stand to watch, but they are very popular. I either don't watch them, or if they're in something I want to watch I try to just ignore them.
I'm sure there will be a reboot at some point, and maybe you'll see better acting in that series.
The cgi baby was a bad idea, the overuse of focusing on the fast-moving powers was bad, especially when she had to 'try' to act normal in front of her dad. She was practicing and accidentally sped across the room? Why should I believe that? She didn't seem to have that problem any other time...
Renesmee is very mature for her age ... physically, emotionally, and mentally. A real baby doesn't have a full set of teeth at birth. (Ususally.) A real baby can't focus on a conversation going on around them, and understand that conversation, so a CGI baby was needed. Sadly, the technology isn't there yet. Perhaps in a few years, when a reboot is put in play, the CGI will be advanced enough to create Renesmee as she is written. *crosses-fingers*
The speed of the vampires can be seen as scenes with people speaking a foreign language ... in some movies all the actors speak English where all the people speak/know the same language ... but, add someone who speaks a different language, and suddenly those same actors speak their native tongue.
We didn't see the speed of the vampires, because they're all moving the same ... but in that scene, everyone but Bella was moving at a human pace as an example ... so when Bella moved, she kept the vampire pace.
Or, you can see it as her being facetious.
It seemed like they spent half the movie focusing on the various superpowers and unnecessary dialogue between these new characters that we have no reason to care about.
Not everyone in the audience had read the books, so this let them know what the Cullens have going for them on their side of the fight.
The dad just 'accepts' everything without question because he's just told to...by his daughter.
He accepts it because the alternative is that she will leave and he will never see her again. Plus, he also can't wrap his mind around the fact that the supernatural is real. He's in denial. (In the book, he didn't want to know more than they told him. Seeing Jacob turn into a wolf was too much for him.)
However, Charlie is dating Sue, and it looks like they might be heading down the aisle. As a husband of someone on the council, Charlie will be under the protection of the wolves, and will probably be able to learn the whole truth ... should he want to know it.
Jacob has to strip down to underware to become a werewolf because underware is the magical amount of little clothing acceptable to turn,
Jacob didn't want to ruin his clothes. Clothes cost money, and Jacob and the wolves aren't rich, so they remove their clothes before shifting into wolves. They sometimes use a bungee cord to attach their clothes to their legs. They also have clothes hidden all over the woods.
the volturi took forever to get there because, well I don't think there was really an explanation why, was there?
There is in the book. They all came. And it took time to prepare for such a large group to travel. No one was left behind for fear of an attack on the two groups while divided.
The kid has a magical effect on everyone but the volturi guy also with no good reason why, what's her faces' visions are only accurate when it's convenient for the plot...
Renesmee has only the gift of putting her thoughts into the minds of others. Those who fell under her 'spell' did so because she's a child. Just as most everyone falls in love with puppies and kittens.
Aro didn't fall under her 'spell' because to him she was only a tool in which he could use to get his hands on Bella, Edward, Benjamin & Alice. He killed his own sister to prevent her from taking Marcus away from Volterra.
My daughter, being 13, should be able to watch this pg-13 movie, right? Wrong. It went from at least trying to keep the violence out of focus in the background and evolved to straight-up, in-your-face gore. It was an absolute gore-fest at the end. Why is that okay?
Because there's no blood and they turn into glass (weird). I can't remember seeing a movie with so many decapitations in my life. Ripping faces off, body parts flying everywhere, ripping heads apart at the mouth... Do I really need to go on!? I'm baffled as to how this is pg-13 or how anyone sees any quality at all in it. I literally only finished it because I'd already sat through all of the other ones, just to say I gave them a chance. My daughter had to sit through this trash just to miss the end because I had to excuse her from the room. I know you liked it and I'm usually not so vocal about movies I don't like but there are just some movies that are so bad, they deserve to get a post or two about it. I'm not taking away your right to like it; like on. No problem. But I hated it and trashed it right away. Again, I can't say it's THE number one worst movie, but it's high up there for me.
It should have gotten a PG-15 ... but I don't believe there is such a rating. As a parent, you have every right to say what your child can and can't watch. The 'vision' wasn't in the books. The wolves and hybrid vampires give Alice blindspots, so there is no way she could have seen that fight, nor adult Jacob and Renesmee at the end.
So again, I don't mean any offense but you asked and I told. And there's much, much more I left out because it's too much and not worth any more of my time.
Now see, this is a conversation. It's hard to make a counter reply to, "This movie stinks." But, go into detail of why you think this movie stinks, and others can give you their interpretation and maybe even explain some missteps in your interpretation. Which, of course, doesn't mean you have to accept them. You are entitled to your view. And I don't have a problem with you not liking the movie/story ... nor with you sharing your view of why you don't like the movie/story.
As a parent, you can use this book/movie series as a means to have a discussion with your daughter and get her view on the characters and events. Then you can give her your view on the characters and events. It could be a learning experience for you both.
Find out what about this series that attracts her to it. What morals/lessons does she glean from it? Let her go first, so you can get her view on it all before you do a counter-view. Does she see it as just a fantasy story, or are there parts of it that might alter her real-life perspectives?
When you feel she's old enough, the both of you could have a Readers/Watchers Club. You could add your wife and other parents and their daughters to the group. (Sons too if any are interested.)
BTW: The wedding night scene in the book is not like in the movie. But I'm sure you might prefer to read ahead to be sure of what you might want to leave out of your discussions.
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mustangguy809
9 years ago
Wow, you're very enthused. I think you misunderstand though. I didn't come here to debate the abomination that is this film. Half of your explanations require having read the book and that makes for a BAD movie adaptation.
My daughter isn't huge into this either. We were just trying to understand what all of the hype was all about.
No reader's or watcher's club for us. But have fun.
It should have been R. It was straight up horror violence.
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