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I wouldn't mind the time limit as much if they weren't direct Adaptations


Mask of The Phantasm and Return of The Joker had about the same length, btu they where written form the start knowing they would have that limit. So they don't feel convinced.

But a direct adaptation I feel should be given a Length to justify the story it's adapting.

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The simple truth is that these are made on a limited budget of around $3.5 million. Such a budget only goes so far and won't get increased because the movies are expected to make a profit.

The news out of Comic-Con International is that Warner Premiere is considering trying to make at least one of these in two parts. No word on what title might be chosen for this experiment.

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Of the eons currently in production, probably All Star Superman.

Why can't they save budge tin other areas? I don't see the point in all the well known actors they cast when it's like there's a big marketing campaign for these.

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I wouldn't be surprised if the first feature they test the two-part experiment with would be a Batman story. Most likely "The Long Halloween" or possibly "Bruce Wayne: Murderer". "Hush" could also be a likely candidate. Time will tell. Is All-Star Superman a long book?

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TLH had the same problem Year One doe,s it's material the basic of which where already covered in Nolan's Batfilms.

The entire Murder-Fugitive storyline would be to epic even for 2 70 minute movies, and it wouldn't be the same to me without all the minor character that they'll probably decide to shelve for the sake of not confusing the general public, the whole point of those kinds of storyline to me is how they delve very deeply into he Batman universe.

I think DKR might work as a 2 parter actually, believe it or not, I think about a half hour for each of the 4 original volumes would work out well.

But I'd most like to see Identity Crisis get this kind of treatment.

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If ALL STAR SUPERMAN turns out to be DC's experiment in a two parter, that would be EXCELLENT. And if this two parter stuff works out, then they'd have more freedom to adapt bigger stories instead of squishing them into a way too short runtime and it turns out to be crap - Like Superman Doomsday.

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Even a real 2 parter wouldn't be enough for the whole Death and Return story.

You might be able to so Death as 1 70 minute film and then Funeral for a Friend as part II.

But Reign of the Superman would take at least 2 all on it's own.

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Not really, especially if they weren't going to use the Justice League and act like Superman is the only hero (Which was a bad move anyway).

But I'd say DEATH could be done in 40 minutes tops - All's it is really is one GIANT fight that spans pretty much the whole United States.

Funeral For a Friend could be done in the next 30/40 minutes (Since Doomsday's running time was actually 78 minutes total) of the first part leading into Reign of the Supermen for basically the entire second part.

Still it would work better as a TRILOGY but it's not impossible. Like I said, Death is pretty basic - Doomsday smashes out of the ground, causes some destruction, JLA gets pwned, Superman helps, FIGHT, FIGHT, FIGHT, DEATH!

I can't see how they could really extend the fight to much more than 20/30 minutes without actually making it a little boring even though in the comic, Superman fought Doomsday from morning to evening.

That second still gave it 80 extra minutes to tell the story and DOOMSDAY was loaded with filler anyway.

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That's My point, doing adequately would mean removing thong, not the JLA and certainly not the fake Supermen.

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Identity Crisis would be amazing! That's number one on my list, with
TLH number 2... i think that could work really well without it being too similar to TDK. The main similarities are the corruption of Harvey (which is done differently) and the rise of the 'freaks', but the storyline of the murder mystery and the use of a load of the rogue's gallery would make it original enough IMO.

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For me it's mainly that the big things fomr TLH and Year One I wanted to see covered essentially have been now, so I'd rather they do something much more unlike what we've got already.

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First off those we remember the cast lists I made for this like over a year ago, I've pretty much completely revamped it, this is more plausible. So you can forget that. I'm not covering every character just the major ones.

Wonder Woman would only be scene, no voice actress needed, which is consistent with the novel. Sue and Atom's wife will keep the cast fomr being a sausage fest thou I haven't decided who to cast for either of them sadly?

I'd remove the 1 scene Nightwing and Starfire have caused while I like it their not major factor sin the story at all making this scene bee thrown in during the opening kinda random.

Mark Harmon as Superman, His role in this is about the same as in Crisis on Two Earths so I figure why not keep that.

Bruce Greenwood for Batman, I think he could well good enough to replace Connery, and can see him playing Bat's role in this quite well.

If the 3 main voice actors of the Green Arrow short of well I'd have them reprise their 3 roles.

Michael Rosenbaum for Wally West, I know that must seem random going back to the standard Timmverse casting for this single role, but for whatever dumb reasons Rosey hasn't been getting a much work after leaving Smallville as he should. And this is an opportunity to get much deeper into the role then JLU ever allowed him to.

I'll go ahead and give Pearlman another shot at Deathstroke.

Christopher McCulloch for Dr.Light, in case you can't guess his "The Monarch" voice is what I'm thinking of, when I first read Identity Crisis for whatever reason I instantly envisioned that voice coming from Light's mouth.

I'm still thinking on The Calculator and Captain Boomerang and his Son.

Steven R McQueen for Tim Drake, I can see him pulling this off well, now that Jason's got a movie Tim certainly deserves a spotlight. And maybe just to be shameless have Chad McQueen be Jack Drake?

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Pearlman WAS Deathstroke. I pray that if "The Judas Contract" ever gets off the ground or any other film with the character Anrea Romano looks no further than Ron Pearlman for the role.

Couldn't agree more with Michael Rosenbaum's inactivity with anything DC as of late. I hope that we get a "Flash Showcase" sometime next year and he once again plays Wally West. Hopefully he pops back onto Smallville as Lex to wrap up the series nicely too.

Everyone else is pretty much dead on. I would like to see NPH returning as Nightwing down the road and of course Greenwood. Too bad he couldn't have been used for "Crisis on Two Earths" as well. *Sigh...lol.

And I know that we've seen certain elements of TLH adapted into "Batman Begins" and "The Dark Knight" but we have yet to see the most intriguing aspect of the story which was the Holiday Killer. When I first read the book I couldn't put it down because of the mystery of his/her identity. Plus like it was pointed out in an earlier post, the rogues gallery was utilized in excellent fashion. Most of all, Julian "Calender Man" Day. The scenes with him and Bats in Arkham radiated something surrounding Hannibal Lecter from "Silence of the Lambs".

If you think about it, they might be able to congest TLH into one part of the 1st feature and "Dark Victory" for the second feature. Both would compliment one another extremely well.

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I'd hate it if anyone else fomr the Teen Titans cartoon came back thou.

The mystery element is actually gone in an adaptation, and once revealed I fond the Holiday Killer rather contrived. And I wasn't fond of The Joker in TLH either.

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Is one of the few I wouldn't mind being condensed some,cause while I love much of the story there is also allot of crap in it.

1st I'd just remove Upper and make it Darkseid invading, but I'd definitely keep the concept of the whole President Lex-Brainiac-Lena dynamic.

You can also remove the Young Justice, stuff, and allot of the Aquaman and Wonder Woman related material.

It'd also be nice to See Lois's dad make a movie for once, pretty easy to guess who should voice him.

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DKR wound up being the two parter, did it not sell well? Because it seems they aren't trying it again?

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I doubt it didn't sell well. Each part probably sold around what a single-release does so they decided it's not worth the added risk that people who buy Part 1 might not buy Part 2? (Although there is the "Deluxe Edition" as well as an additional source of revenue).

Theoretically a movie split into two, costs less than 2 new movies though (because they share character designs, no overhead, etc), so really, it shouldn't be a bad idea.

Then again in my opinion if the movies could be just half an hour bigger, it would be a great improvement, we don't necessarily need them to be twice as long.

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