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figures this film wont be made...


It seemed like the majority of Youtube visitors thought this was an amazing idea. Now, the official video is gone from youtube. That does not bode well for the pitch being made into a feature.

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Which would be a good thing because this retarded pitch crapped on everything I know and love about the MK mythology.

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It's right here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cs3ROFNxa5M

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Hahahaha, and that's all it'll be.

I love how the people commenting think it's a teaser. Wait until I start "Rebirthing" franchises just to prove a point; the same people will be saying, "That was nothing like (IP here)!"

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Not hating on this rebirth. I liked it but I also want a full feature film of MK too. It looks like MK (2013) is off of IMDB. I feel they have gotten lazy to make a film. If I'm wrong and they are still going to make the full feature film, then this rebirth is just a teaser still. An official short. I must say. I still want that reboot or sequel to MK. We've waited too long for one and they finally said they will make it. Now we are not sure if they are going to make it.

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then this rebirth is just a teaser still. An official short.


Rebirth was never a teaser, and it was NEVER official.

As for this production, it's now about if they can do it, not about if they will.

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I have left a comment on that youtube link.

This is what I put; How can people like this when it has absolutely nothing to do with the MK series apart from taking it's characters names?! You 'like' guys need to catch up on the stories and mythologies of the series as well as it's character bio's because this 'Rebirth' is more like the 'Afterbirth' to the source material of the series.

Am I right?

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Rebirth was fantastic. It was fresh take on a VERY stale franchise. FACT: MK Co Creator Ed Boon LOVED it.

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1. Or so he SAID just because he didnt want to upset anybody and because it's helping his new game get attention.

2. He's very flexible on "alternative retellings"

3. He's like Stan Lee where he cant say anything bad about anything based on MK. FACT: He said MK Annihilation was good before it came out.

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Or on the other hand he actually liked it and you just want to discredit that report to back up your thinking. If you don't like it then by all means don't see it. You will leave more room in the theater for people who do want to see it.

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Or on the other hand he actually liked it and you just want to discredit that report to back up your thinking. If you don't like it then by all means don't see it. You will leave more room in the theater for people who do want to see it.


Time for a re-post.

These are quotes from Ed Boon himself, and they allow you to peer in a little bit to see what he really thinks.

http://m.ign.com/articles/1117034

Nobody's reached out to me. I've been asked a number of times about it. To be honest, it's really not my decision. I suppose I could help champion the cause by just throwing in my endorsement or something like that, but I don't own Mortal Kombat. Warner Brothers does. So it's not like "Ed, do you want to make the movie? Nope? Then, OK, we won't." I can have some influence, probably, but I don't know if I could make it happen.

Of course he's going to stay publicly positive about Rebirth. It got tons of hits on Youtube; he's not going to alienate the fans who liked it before the new MK game comes out. But, in quotes like the one above, you can see a glimpse of how he really feels: "I could try to help, but I really don't feel like it." (He "loved" it so much that he's not helping to get it past the proof of concept stage.)

http://www.gamasutra.com/view/feature/5948/back_to_basics_with_mortal_ kombat.php?page=3

So I thought it was incredibly well done, and a great re-imagining of MK -- kind of like they do with some of these alternate universes of Batman and Superman and all that. I think it's a very legitimate alternate universe Mortal Kombat, and so I was excited about it.

Reading most of his comments about Rebirth, you can tell that Rebirth isn't his vision, and that nothing really changed his mind about that. He says it's a nice alternate universe, but he doesn't say that it's what Mortal Kombat should be.


Bottom line: It got MK back into the minds of the people at the right time; all he can do publicly is praise it (much like he did with Annihilation). But as far as the truth goes, while he might not have hated it, it looks more like he doesn't care for it in general.

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He loved it so much that he's not helping to get it past the "proof of concept" stage.

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Ed Boon doesn't have that kind of power, He doesn't own the MK IP.

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He was one of the people involved in making all of the games since 1992, not to mention that he's now a WB employee, it would still make him a more valuable asset.

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As a consultant maybe, but he can't greenlight a movie.

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I was talking about more support for a greenlight. His name in the backing could have motivated WB to take it and possibly do something with it. I'm looking for the interview where he pretty much shugged Rebirth off and pretty much said, "I could probably help in some way, but eh."

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That interview doesn't exist. Ed has been nothing but positive about Rebirth. He has publicly stated that he has NO CONTROL over what Warner Bros. does with the MK IP. He even went out of his way to meet with the director.

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That interview doesn't exist.


Found it.

http://m.ign.com/articles/1117034

Nobody's reached out to me. I've been asked a number of times about it. To be honest, it's really not my decision. I suppose I could help champion the cause by just throwing in my endorsement or something like that, but I don't own Mortal Kombat. Warner Brothers does. So it's not like "Ed, do you want to make the movie? Nope? Then, OK, we won't." I can have some influence, probably, but I don't know if I could make it happen.

Of course he's going to stay publicly positive about Rebirth. It got tons of hits on Youtube; he's not going to alienate the fans who liked it before the new MK game comes out. But, in quotes like the one above, you can see a glimpse of how he really feels: "I could try to help, but I really don't feel like it."

There's also another interview:

http://www.gamasutra.com/view/feature/5948/back_to_basics_with_mortal_ kombat.php?page=3

So I thought it was incredibly well done, and a great re-imagining of MK -- kind of like they do with some of these alternate universes of Batman and Superman and all that. I think it's a very legitimate alternate universe Mortal Kombat, and so I was excited about it.

Reading most of his comments about Rebirth, you can tell that Rebirth isn't his vision, and that nothing really changed his mind about that. He says it's a nice alternate universe, but he doesn't say that it's what Mortal Kombat should be.

Where does it say he met with the director?

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He had lunch with him...

On Ed's Twitter
Just had lunch with the director of that AWESOME youtube Mortal Kombat alternate universe movie (Kevin Tancharoen). Great guy. Knows his MK!
Fri Dec 10 2010 22:29:41 (GMT Standard Time) via Twitter for iPhone

He is just hyping up Mortal Kombat in general due to the game. But don't agree that Kevin knows his MK stuff at all.

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Ah, okay.

They probably just had discussions that stemmed from statements like, "Sub-Zero is the best character EVER! I memorized all of his Fatalities!"

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I bet Ed wanted to rip the heart out of Kevin... Just like what Kevin has done to the origins of MK...

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I just have to say your YouTube comment is seriously retarded. I mean it's so obvious to why it's a retarded comment that I don't have to explain why. Even if it is your opinion, it's enough to make anyone mentally retarded if they look at it long enough.

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And who the *beep* are you? Another Rebirth fan that knows NOTHING about the MK storyline, characters bio's and backgrounds at all.

All you saw was a pitch that ONLY used MK characters names and slapped them onto characters that don't even resemble their games counterpart... And still call it Mortal Kombat? Jeez you Rebirth fans make me laugh so hard it feels like 'HARA KIRI'

Don't say nothing if you know nothing.


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Are you kidding me?! I probably know more about Mortal Kombat than you! I have played Mortal Kombat since Mortal Kombat Trilogy and I own every Mortal Kombat game (Except Mortal Kombat Gold) and movie! It's called trying something new. Maybe you should try that. A REAL fan can love the real MK games and still appreciate a fan-made reboot. And of course it's called Mortal Kombat! You think they'll call it something else even when using the same character names?! That's stupid! So I guess you think Batman Begins and the Dark Knight sucks too huh?! Because this person basically did the same thing. Change how everyone came to be. But Rebirth is only FAN-MADE! He made it more realistic! There's nothing wrong with trying something new. Besides, even though I liked this one, doesn't mean I don't love the other ones and it doesn't make me any less of a fan.

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Alright, I'll admit, my reply about your YouTube comment may have been out of line and cruel I apologize, but jeez! But it seemed to me you were putting everyone down just because they liked something you did which you shouldn't do. Then again I guess I put you down for you not liking which was wrong I guess but you know what? Go with the saying; if you don't like it, don't watch it and if you have nothing nice to say, don't say anything at all.

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The trailer of this ''short'' film *beep* on the 2 previous movies.. make a damn movie out of this, FFS.

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While the other two movies are sh!t, this is sh!t as well.

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Joker... They did something different... Like change every character's bio's and backgrounds!

Yeah it's all new!!! very new!! very different! Different from what Mortal Kombat is about. It's not about psycho maniacs or stupid doctors. It's about 'the best fighters in the world'.

Yes I love the batman movies! So your theory is wrong. If I did a rebirth of Street Fighter and had Bison as some Irish white-haired guy and try to make it more 'REAL', obviously it's going to be different! AND it's that difference that takes away the source material all together. Since when has Baraka been a docter? Since when has Reptile been a 'human' born with a rare defect?

You say you have been playing mortal kombat since MK Trilogy? So you haven't touched MK1, MK2, MK3... But yet you claim to know more than me?!! hahahahHAHAHA!!!

Dude you truly are what your user name is...


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Dude did you even read what I said? I said I STARTED with Trilogy and I said I own ALL the games. So yeah I have played MK 1, 2, and 3. I have them in Midway Arcade Treasures. Try to read better. And apparently you don't know the newer Batmans. This guy did just like what Nolan did. Changed the characters. Originally the Joker was deformed because he fell in chemicals. In the newer versions he has a cut around his mouth and wears makeup. I hope you know you are being a real douche at the moment. Maybe we should just agree you don't see what we do. Because that is what it is. Of course Baraka wasn't a doctor in the games and yes Reptile wasn't a harlequin baby. THAT'S THE *beep* POINT! THIS GUY IS MAKING HIS OWN REBOOT! CAN'T YOU GET THAT THROUGH YOUR HEAD?! HE WANTED TO MAKE HIS OWN REALISTIC VERSION! IN REAL LIFE PEOPLE DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO SHOOT LIGHTNING! HE GAVE THEM THEIR OWN REALISTIC TWISTS!

Seriously, I don't what I'm arguing with you for. You don't like it but so what? I do. And apparently there are a lot more people who like it than don't (The like bar is proof enough). Trying to get you to see my point is like trying to teach a cat and dog to grill cheese. This argument is over. If you don't like the video then don't watch it. Don't see why you even bother coming to these threads anyway.

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^ You're really are blind aren't you?

* In Nolan's Batman films

- Batman is still an adult dressing into a costume to go fight crime

- Bruce Wayne still inherits his Family's Wealth and his dad's company after leaving and to train in Japan after being believed to have died

- He's still psychologically affected from going into that Bat cave as a kid and wanted to instill the same fear into criminals

- Joker is still a psychotic Clown and that toxic waste origin wasn't always there. Plus much like the original character he could easily be lying because sometimes he "remembers it one way and sometimes another...he likes having choices"

- Harvey Dent is still a lawyer that struggles with indecisiveness and leaves everything up to chance.

Not to mention that Nolan's films borrowed story elements from Batman:Year One, Long Halloween and The Killing Joke so his take actually has SOME kind of precedent for it.

* In MK: Rebirth

- Jax and Sonya are No longer part of the Special Forces

- Reptile is no longer a Saurian raptor from Outworld

- Baraka is no longer a Tarkatan warrior from Outworld

- Subzero seems have cyber mutations instead of being half-human/half cryomancer(fictional race and species)


See the difference? If you dont let me spell it out for you:

NOLAN FILMS IS STILL TRUE TO THE ROOTS OF THE BATMAN MYTHOS while Tancharoen's take on MK is NOT

Nolan made sure that the changes he made wouldn't completely strip the characters of their core essence while Tancharoen strips MK COMPLETELY of it's identity.

Not to mention Batman is still set primarily in the real world while MK's events mostly take place on a COMPLETELY DIFFERENT PLANE OF EXISTENCE.


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Whatever. And no I'm not blind. If I was I wouldn't be typing now would I?! You may have gotten me with the Batman part. I mean I've only seen the Tim Burton versions and the two crappy ones that followed and the Nolan versions. Now you may be right about them changing the characters and they changed the atmosphere, but other than that, that is pretty much it. And while Sonya and Jax are cops and not Special Forces, they are doing something that they did in the Special Forces, fighting crime. However, there is still somethings that are true to the games in Rebirth, it's about fighting and a tournament. Look, sometimes you have to try new things. It's only a fan-made video anyway. No need to be upset about it. If you don't like it, find something else to watch. Nobody forced you to see it.

P.S. It's "You really are blind, aren't you?" not "You're really are blind aren't you?". Just saying.

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^ Yes but if it's about a supernatural tournament used to defend they're realm from other realms and species that are trying to take their realm over. If you go "realistic" you'd have to retool the whole freaking franchise from scratch including the backstories and characterizations as well as the events that take place in the main story.

It's a "fan-made" pitch that's is hoping to get the Greenlight from WB which is something I, as well as other fans of the Mortal Kombat mythos, would NOT support. Turning the franchise into a Saw ripoff is NOT the way to go.

Read this to get a better idea of what I'm talking about: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/AnthropicPrinciple

Why adapt an IP if the only similarities are going to be the most superficial aspects such as the names, blood, and the tournament(Which is too radically different to truly count)?

That's like making a Superman movie where Superman is a human that wears a jetpack to fight crime instead of being an alien Kryptonian with Supernatural powers or a Peter Pan adaptation with no Neverland. Would you watch that too?

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Check this idea out dude. If they do make the movie and you're still against it, don't watch it. Keep playing your classic games and such. A new look at something old doesn't take anything away from what's already made. You can still enjoy the 90's movies and the video games and such.

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^ What if we don't like the previous films? We also want to be able to embrace adaptations of our favorite games as well as the GA. Since some fans like us have been wanting a faithful reboot for a long time and this would ruin the chances of that ever happening.

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Look what happened to Street Fighter Chun Li movie... They tried to bring it into the real world too much and the feeling of the mythology was lost forever. It wasn't Street Fighter any more. And it bombed.

The tournament is for the world greatest fighters. Not psychopaths.

Joker says that Jax and Sonya still do what they do as cops when they they was special forces... NO!!!!!! This 'takes' away from the characters and weakens their stories.

You still claim to know more... Then answer this; Whom created the tournament?

You are going to say..."DERRR SHANG TSUNG DID!!"

WRONG!!!

The Elder Gods did. Why?

To stop Shao Kahn from taking over the realm whenever he saw fit. The tournament was set in place so each realm has a chance to defend itself.

In rebirth, all that is taken away. The tournament is 'underground' like some silly bare knuckle fight.

And you still call it Mortal Kombat hahahaHAHAHA!


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Ultimate, I'm seriously starting to think you're nothing more than a troll. Oh and fyi, I KNEW Shang Tsung didn't create the tournament. But I guess you'll never really know that since you didn't even let me answer it. You answered it for me. Smaaaaaaarrrrrrrt move. I knew the purpose of the tournament in the first anyway. Wow. Look at us. We are arguing over a stupid game and a stupid video on the internet. We all (Including me) need to get a life. Wow.

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Really, the point is that if done right, a fully-fleshed Mortal Kombat movie that stays true to the core of the franchise actually holds more promise and franchise stability (within the medium) than a movie that was "based" on a video game, but radically changed around. First off, let's look at these points:

Great Video Games Turned Into Sh!t Movies (What and Why)
Max Payne: Substandard writing and acting. Changed too much of the story.

Resident Evil (series); Changed too much of the story, shoddy directing.

Anything Uwe Boll has made; German only making movies because of the tax breaks.

Street Fighter (series); Changed too much of the story, substandard writing and acting.

Mortal Kombat; Changed too much of the story, watered down the franchise and made it campy on-screen, shoddy directing and terrible writing.

Mortal Kombat: Annihilation; Too obvious.

Notice a trend? Video game adaptations change too much, and Rebirth is no different. If put on the big screen, it'd do more damage to the franchise than any video game film has done to its respective franchise.

If you look at the whole style of Rebirth, it's very shock-and-awe; relying more on shock value than storytelling. It has no real stability as a story people will want to see again (let alone a sequel). Case in point, Hostel. Like Rebirth, it relied more on shocking its audience (and grossing them out) than it did on actually entertaining them. The sequel was a box office bomb; a huge change from the first, which was the top-grossing film its opening weekend. And now look at Rebirth. Months after its unveiling, it's been largely forgotten. The original poster deleted their YouTube account, retroactively deleting Rebirth in the process.

It's something new, but it's not Mortal Kombat in the least. If the writer/director combo are feeling creative, let them start up their own movie franchise based on the characters they created in Rebirth. All they would need to do is change the names; you wouldn't even tell that anything MK-related inspired it. I can understand looking at this as an alternate universe, and it's cool if you liked it, but this isn't what should be representing Mortal Kombat in the theater.

Should they make MK realistic? Hell yeah. Should they try to make it plausible? Hell no.

If you're making an MK movie, you need to work on humanizing the human characters, then purge them into a demonic world of demons, unimaginable horror, and certain death at every turn, and record their realistic reactions to the world as they try their hardest to survive the experience. Yeah, there are going to be supernatural forces, deities, sorcerers and the like; Mortal Kombat is a fantasy story at heart, so it's all to be expected. That's what the suspension of disbelief is for.

You can't expect a group of filmmakers to understand what the fans were talking about when they said, "Make MK realistic," when said group actually compare what Rebirth did to what Nolan did with The Dark Knight.

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Why does everything have to follow the style of the new batman movies?

In those movies, there is realism as there are no supernatural elements at all...

Mortal Kombat however, has those supernatural elements.

Rebirth takes those supernatural elements away...Simple


If you was to watch the 8 minute 'failed pitch' again with the sound off, you'd never guess it was MK related. That in itself is a worry.


So as you told me in an earlier post... "GET THAT THROUGH YOUR THICK HEAD"!


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Ultimate, that was the point of Rebirth. To take away the supernatural elements and make it actually realistic! Anyone with a brain can see that. What will it take to make you realize that?

I watched it without sound and could tell it was related, but there was one thing that did make me see that, and that was Baraka.

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You know, unlike Ultimate, you make a point. And you actually replied in a mature manner unlike him who tries to throw insults (Hey Ultimate, at least I only threw one at you only once and apologized for it). However, I do disagree with what you say about the first Mortal Kombat film. That actually stayed pretty close to first game (Except Shang Tsung, he's supposed to look like an old guy, not some thirty-year old, and they also screwed up with making it PG-13 and have no blood or gore, and maybe a few other things have changed). I will agree with the others, including Annihilation (Though I thought it was O.K. for an MK film but damn they really messed that one up). You may make good points about Rebirth, but I still like it and nothing may change that.

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You may make good points about Rebirth, but I still like it and nothing may change that.


People liked the spec script of Batman being a homeless drifter. And that's cool, we all have different tastes. I happen to like the Insane Clown Posse, and no one likes them.

Films, comics and the like about alternate universes within a property can be a refreshing change of pace. But at the end of the day, when it comes to an official major motion picture adaptation of any franchise, they should stick to the original story.

If anything, they should make a graphic novel revolving around the universe in Rebirth. But I doubt anything will be done with Rebirth, as both Kevin Tancharoen and WB seem to have just thrown this in the back burner, mostly seeing it as a thing of the past.

However, I do disagree with what you say about the first Mortal Kombat film. That actually stayed pretty close to first game (Except Shang Tsung, he's supposed to look like an old guy, not some thirty-year old, and they also screwed up with making it PG-13 and have no blood or gore, and maybe a few other things have changed).


They changed a lot. Not to mention, there were things that were just plain off about it.

1. The whole atmosphere was off. The fights all seemed like a choreographed dance more than any real battle was taking place. You would see clouds building up, which is usually a cue that something really important is about to happen, and it would end with just some characters standing there, with no hint at what is going on.

2. Tsung's "ritual" on the boat: what the hell was that to signify? There seemed to have been no rhyme or reason why it took place. Was he sending a message to the other side, informing Tsung of their arrival? Was he torturing the souls he had possessed? No answer; it was just a cheap excuse to showcase stupid special effects. And it was one of MANY awkward moments of the movie.

3. The set design. I don't remember Mortal Kombat taking place on a jungle island, looking like it was land that once belonged to some indigenous tribe. The island I remember was almost a paradise, centered by a glorious palace that housed the most powerful sorcerer to ever descent from Earth, housing unimaginable horrors beneath it.

4. Johnny Cage's "victory" against Goro. One could argue that Goro lost because he was thrown "out of bounds". But to be fair, Cage went out of bounds first. In fights that have "tournament" rules, that usually results in a penalty. And seeing as how it was supposed to be a fight to the death, Cage should have been captured back to the middle of the ring and suffered whatever penalty was coming to him. Not only that, but he didn't really beat Goro; he tricked Goro into falling to his death. Seeing as how the game is about killing your opponent physically, the "victory" is not very MK. Not to mention that Kitana/Kang fight should have ended in someone either dead or dying (awkward scene).

5. Sonya, a military leader, not being able to defend herself from being "kidnapped", and being turned into a damsel in destress.

6. Crossing over to the island, then to OutWorld, no one seemed the slightest bit nervous. They didn't bleed, they didn't sweat, their clothes looked cleaned and freshly pressed throughout the entire movie.

7. In 19 years of playing the games, I never remembered hearing any techno playing in the background. Because it wasn't there (and didn't fit at all; another thing that made the fights look more like dances).

We deserve better. You don't have to change everything to make it right; Chris Nolan proved that to us with Batman. He might have changed around character origins, but they were still the same characters altogether.

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"People liked the spec script of Batman being a homeless drifter. And that's cool, we all have different tastes. I happen to like the Insane Clown Posse, and no one likes them." Actually, I kinda like them too, lol.

I guess you do make some pretty valid points about that movie, (and I guess I didn't see those when watching or didn't pay attention lol) except for #5 and 6. She's kidnapped in MK II. In MK Deception, Shujinko didn't seem too worried either.

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She's kidnapped in MK II.


This is true. Only before the game, we don't know the circumstance on how she's kidnapped. In the movie, Shang Tsung just snatches her while she screams, "LET ME GO!" Then he holds her there while she doesn't in the slightest try to really fight him back. Isn't she supposed to be one of those Delta Force, Army Ranger, Best-of-the-Best types?

In MK Deception, Shujinko didn't seem too worried either.


In the game, he was approached by, what he thought, was an agent of the gods when he was a child. Not to mention he was endowed with a power that allowed him to absorb the fighting abilities on warriors he came across. Plus, he was a monk in the White Lotus Society; he heard the same stories as Liu Kang did over the years, and dreamt one day of participating in Mortal Kombat (not to mention that he was trained to always center his emotions and stay calm, no matter what). So, it's not as if the situation would be new to him; it wouldn't be like, "Okay, you're now in another plane of existence, in a fight with beings WAY more powerful than you. In this world, the level of physical violence is staggering, and if you happen to survive, you'll most likely suffer post-traumatic stress until you die. If you don't win, everyone you've ever known and loved will die and their souls will be damned for all eternity. Good luck!"

To characters like Kano (who was only on the island to loot it blind), Johnny Cage (who was expecting a plain martial arts tournament) and Sonya (who was pursuing Kano), it would be out of the blue.

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from That joker user...

I just have to say your YouTube comment is seriously retarded. I mean it's so obvious to why it's a retarded comment that I don't have to explain why. Even if it is your opinion, it's enough to make anyone mentally retarded if they look at it long enough.

Too late saying sorry 4/5 posts later. You are just trying to be mature...


Mortal Kombat is not some no brained underground 'death match' for nutters and psychos. It's a mystical tournament surrounded in magic light and dark. Created by the Elder Gods.

Having the tournament set out like in rebirth takes away everything that makes the tournament what it was supposed to be and was created to be by the games creators.

What you don't understand, is that rebirth is a total kick in the nuts to the games creators.

At the end of the day... Mortal Kombat is a story that is set beyond this world and dimension. End of... That's the original setting. Not stuck to Earth and have the franchise striped of what makes it stand out.

You want another Bloodsport movie by the sounds of it.





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At the end of the day... Mortal Kombat is a story that is set beyond this world and dimension. End of... That's the original setting. Not stuck to Earth and have the franchise striped of what makes it stand out.


I believe that's the point that I was making to him. He only said he liked the film; I've been giving him real reasons why adapting it to the big screen is a bad idea. Read the above posts.

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I have been... But he seems to think that this is what the MK franchise needs. A soulless version of a mystical story.

He says something like "that's the whole idea of making it real"... why does it need to be real? why?

I'm not that much into the Harry Potter movies but can you imagine trying to 'rebirth' that franchise? Harry and his hoodie mates going round with make shift stick guns haha!! Voldermort would be some rich dude trying to wipe out a city for his own development. There you go! Harry Potter in the rebirth world. No magic, No magic castle, No platform 9 3/4.

Take away the soul of the original element and the story falls to dust.


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You just seem more bent on attacking him because he likes the film, instead of having a civilized argument about why it shouldn't convey Mortal Kombat on the big screen. All you've really said was "this is an insult to Mortal Kombat!" without any real rationale backing up your claims outside of "It's nothing like the story!". If you want to get people on your side, you can't attack them while pretty much saying, "You're wrong and I'm right!" You have to bring facts into the mix, describe why this wouldn't make a better Mortal Kombat movie alternative, explain what you're talking about, and not take things to a personal level.

why does it need to be real? why?


It doesn't need to be. But you haven't once elaborated on why it doesn't need to be. Like I said before, if you want to create a compelling argument, you have to bring more information to the table.

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I want to take you back in time to his first post to me on this thread;

'I just have to say your YouTube comment is seriously retarded. I mean it's so obvious to why it's a retarded comment that I don't have to explain why. Even if it is your opinion, it's enough to make anyone mentally retarded if they look at it long enough.'


You tell me about 'personal' attacks!? Believe me... I have not personally attacked the .....'dude.

And my reasons are more than enough why not to make a movie based on rebirth. And it's not like I care what you say any way Paul. I have my own opinions about you and your so-called methods of trying to push someone's ideas further outward. But lets not go there AGAIN.

At the end of the day. Neither you or me or any other anti-rebirth fan, are going to convince the rebirth fans from what they think is Mortal Kombat. That's the truth.


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You tell me about 'personal' attacks!? Believe me... I have not personally attacked the .....'dude.


Then be the bigger man. He even apologized for his comment, and you threw it back in his face saying, "It's too late!" And I don't believe you, because I've read your personal attacks in your posts.

At the end of the day. Neither you or me or any other anti-rebirth fan, are going to convince the rebirth fans from what they think is Mortal Kombat.


Had you actually been reading the past posts, you'd see that he did start to see the real point. Surprisingly, he started seeing it from someone who wasn't getting all hostile just because he said he liked the Rebirth film.

If someone likes the Rebirth film, it's one thing: I don't like it, but it's whatever. When someone who claims to like the Rebirth film starts talking about how it's what MK on the big screen should be, then that's another story. You're trying to convince him that it's a crappy movie, which is a futile effort for anyone to do about any movie. Instead, you should be trying to convince why a film like that shouldn't represent Mortal Kombat on the big screen.

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Why should I accept any apology? I'm not obligated to accept an apology if I don't 'want' to.


And I have been saying why it shouldn't be made ffs! Everything mystical and magical have been stripped away. The tournament has been pushed down to being an 'underground death match' for nutters and psychos. Not other worldly beings.

So I have said the main reasons why rebirth sucks hard. Ever you have said it's crap.

I can't wait till the game sell well and Ed Boon finally come clean and says how much or a story f* *k up rebirth is. It's nothing to do with the original source material what so ever. To call it Mortal Kombat is blasphemy. Nothing can be further away from the source material than rebirth.


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Don't mind it being a 'webisode'. I pray to the Elder Gods that Kevin does a bit more research on the characters original backgrounds before he starts.


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michael jai white did an interview with baged and borded where he said the movie is real

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Oh! like way back when Linden Ashby had an interview on a chat show saying that he was in line for the third movie? Also Linden says he's seen the script and producing starts soon... soon 10+years lol...

MJW is an awesome actor and martial artist. Yes I would have him for the Jax role... But for the rebirth concept.


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Of course, because no actor ever lied about an MK film starting production.

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You guys are in such butthurt fanboy denial to the point where it's hilarious. The web series is happening. DEAL WITH IT.

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Of course it is.

While you're at it, believe that the US has all of our interests at heart, and that Santa Claus really does go from house to house passing out gifts every year.

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Your sarcasm reeks of butthurt.

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You're willing to believe everything you hear, aren't you?

Fake MK movie news like this isn't new. Keep those expectations high; it'll be hilarious when you wake up to find it's never made.

And if, by some small chance, they are made, it'll be even funnier when the shorts turn out nothing like Rebirth.

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getting made in to a 10 episode webiseries, not much but could lead on to more if it is successful.

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I must admit I have a begrudging respect for people like pjbuster_2000. Usually they just fade into the background when proved emphatically wrong but not him, no to him it's a fight to the death. You could say it's MORTAL KOMBAT!!! dun dun dun dun dunna...

So sweetbreads are meat & sweetmeats are pastry? What a world we live in.

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Usually they just fade into the background when proved emphatically wrong but not him, no to him it's a fight to the death.


What's proved me wrong? Cheap gossip on gaming sites? I'll be proven wrong when there is something concrete in the mix; so far, it's just been some talk, with no confirmation from WB.

Even then, I still wouldn't be proven wrong, as I've said an MK film like Rebirth will never be on the big screen. A 10-part miniseries airing only on the internet, when compared to a major motion picture, is almost nothing.

But, say these shorts do happen. What are you guys gonna say when they turn out nothing like Rebirth? What are you going to say when they release shorts that keep the visual style of Rebirth, but stick closer to the story? Of all the talk, no indication has been made to suggest it would follow the timeline set in Rebirth. All that's been said is the guy who directed Rebirth would be making them; Oren Uziel's name was left out of the credits.

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So much butthurt...


It figures someone who lost a previous argument would say that.

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How did I loose the so called "argument." There is a web series on the way and you're in such a laughable state of denial its hilarious... perhaps you should fill out one of these http://www.scribd.com/doc/7771818/Butt-Hurt-Report-Form

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Well, because I proved what you were saying was wrong. And you never replied until the webseries rumors came to be.

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^ Actually He's likely right about the pitch not being like Rebirth because

1. Their are new writers(that are actually better writers IMO since I enjoyed Spartacus:Blood And Sand so far and that was written by them) instead of Orien Uziel

2. The supposed plot synopsis in the article has the mysticism of the games in it.

3. WB are still the bosses and they can put a leash on him if they please.

So just think about that during your MK:Rebirth circlejerk.....

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Kevin already stated MONTHS ago that if his pitch had been adapted. The mysticism would have been present:

"So with all that mysticism, I want to infuse it. But I also want to infuse it with a little bit more of a demonic presence, as opposed to an Asian mysticism presence, so that it feels a little bit more evil. That’s the thing about Mortal Kombat. I love that it was all the bad things. It was evil, it was bloody. It was your way of being twelve and rebelling. “I’m not gonna play Sonic the Hedgehog — I’m gonna play Mortal Kombat.” I definitely want to incorporate all of that stuff, but I want to incorporate it in a very tasteful way. Not in an over the top, campy way, where everyone one is just throwing fireballs, and throwing electricity, and having an unlimited supply of special moves. Because then, if you do that, to me they’re not special anymore at all. And I want to incorporate all of the very iconic things that have made Mortal Kombat so special."

I don't give a damn about Rebirth's so called "realism." I want the web series to retain the tone of rebirth. It can have all demons and shape shifting sorcerers it wants.

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^ I know that but I didn't believe him because of a thing called Damage Control and I'm still not sure if he understands that if has the mysticism and still humanizes those characters a lot of us would still be mad because there would be no excuse for that since there would be no point to another realm if the threat that come from it is humanized....Get what I'm saying?

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I fully understand what you're saying. If he can make something in the vain of rebirth with as little changes to the canon as possible then I'm all for it. I just don't want to see another campy live action PG13 mess like the last two films and the subsequent television series.

also http://twitter.com/IanAnthonyDale/status/26195355146125312 Ian Anthony Dale will be back as Scorpion.

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I just don't want to see another campy live action PG13 mess like the last two films and the subsequent television series.


No one wants to. They're God-awful; always have been. The only real good thing about Rebirth is that it got fans of those two things to realize how stupid they really were.

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Difference of opinion Paul...

I liked the first one... Annihilation not so much. But you go about as if the original movie is the worse game-to-movie adaptation ever.

It's better than the 2 Street Fighter movies. The DOA movie. And maybe shades better than the Tekken movie.

my opinion...

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"Difference of opinion Paul...

I liked the first one... Annihilation not so much. But you go about as if the original movie is the worse game-to-movie adaptation ever.

It's better than the 2 Street Fighter movies. The DOA movie. And maybe shades better than the Tekken movie.

my opinion... "


Agreed. Also, this Tekken film, is it out on DVD yet or are you talking about the animated one?

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The live action one.

It's wasn't bad, but I still felt that Mortal Kombat was better. Even though Tekken was better than DOA and the SF movie too.


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the worst video game movie was house of the dead

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First thing I've gotta say is I'm not a true fan of Mortal Kombat. I've played most of the games and I like them but I'm not a true fan. The entire mythology and story behind them are pretty interesting. But to take away the mythical aspects of the games seems like a stupid move.

If someone wants to make a realistic adaptation of MK then I'm cool with that, but the supernatural elements have to be kept in to some extent. A simple explanation can be given as to why Sub-Zero can freeze people, or how Shang Tsung takes someone's soul.

Here's the way I'd do it. Shang Tsung is exactly how he is in the games. A powerful sorceror allied with Shao Kahn. The tournament takes place on Shang Tsung's island fortress, a seperate realm in between Earthrealm and the other realms. This realm allows the fighters from other realms to use their powers to a great extent.

The heroes lose the tournament because of this, allowing Shao Kahn and his allies to invade Earthrealm. However, because they draw their powers from their own realms they are limited to what they can do. The heroes defeat Shao Kahn and his army, saving Earthrealm in the process.

With this idea you have both sides to the same coin. The supernatural elements on Shang Tsung's island and the realistic aspect in Earthrealm. All there needs to be is a simple explanation from say Raiden or one of the Elder Gods, explaining how the fighters of Earthrealm managed to win the tournament.

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That movie was not based on the game.

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It was intended to be a game-to-film adaptation.

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I was thinking of another movie hahahaha! never seen Uwe Boll's HOTD! lol

I will have to watch it for more research!


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NO! Do not watch House of the Dead. I swear, Uwe Boll crapped on it so bad it's almost sad. Rogan and G are not on there at all. Wait, scratch that, G shows up at the end, but he's black! I mean the only, THE ONLY reference to the games at all is that it's about zombies and there's a character named Curien on there, but he's not even a freaking scientist or a bad guy! Same goes for House of the Dead II. Except there is a scientist-like character, and played by Sid Haig (Who imo is pretty cool but still). I will admit though, House of the Dead II is slightly better, but not much. And they keep ruining the game story. In this one, the zombies can freaking chew through armor. Besides, aren't the zombies in the House of the Dead supposed to hit people or use weapons anyway? The only time that ever happens is in the first movie and it only happens when they chop someones legs off.

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I have to watch them both. I am writing a zombie movie myself so I have to see what works, what don't, what I can adapt. I have done so many changes and added so much detail, it seems like it's going on forever lol

But anyway...

MORRRTAAAL KOOOMBAAAT RE...suck. lol


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You want to make zombie films? Same here! I already thought of a plot and everything. How are you wanting to do your films? Me, I want to do George Romero (My favorite zombie film director of all time. But Shaun of the Dead hails as one of my favorite zombie films even though it wasn't done by George)style.

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For me...I just want to bring back that 'sense of fear'.

I also don't want survivors running about with guns as that's just too lazy story wise.

I don't know my style as it would be my first lol

My facebook group on it.
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=110766385627297&ref=ts


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For me...I just want to bring back that 'sense of fear'.

I also don't want survivors running about with guns as that's just too lazy story wise.


You should have it so that by the end, all of the survivors are dead. Like at the end, it'll look like two will survive, then BOOM!

No one will see it coming.

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SHUUUuuuush!!!!!!

I have a few endings in mind... Just testing which one would make the audience not say "that it?" lol


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Seems pretty kick-ass dude. Poster's awesome too.

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The director for this short video was granted permission to make the film and given $100 million budget .

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