Are you people serious?


A 7-minute short movie that's *rumored* to be a "teaser" for a feature film comes out. Called "Mortal Kombat Rebirth", it "deviates" significantly from the "classic" MK mythos, but features the sort of gruesome, gritty violence you'd expect from an "deathmatch" movie".
We've got names, and (presumably) similar backgrounds from some classic characters, and of course, the tournament.

And predictably, the nerds are going out of their minds over something fictional. Big surprise there.

What the hell else do you want? An exact word-for-word, scene-for-scene recreation of the original Mortal Kombat game on the big screen? You have any idea how horrifically BAD that would look? There's a reason why source material from video game/comic book movies gets altered a bit before filming - because it would SUCK if they didn't change it.
We're gonna have a bunch of wizards, robots, and brightly-clothed ninjas fighting each other on a jungle island? Ha.
Yes, most game/comic movies have been awful (thanks a lot, Uwe...), but that's beside the point.

This is what's called a "re-imaging" - where they take the original idea, change a few things around, and *hopefully* come out with something even better.
I was never a fan of the movies. They sucked. Didn't play much of the games, either, but they were pretty damn good.
And I loved "Mortal Kombat Rebirth". If they decide to make it a movie in the vein of this short film, they could come out with something new, modern, and damn good. All the power to them.

You don't "own" Mortal Kombat, and you can't get "everything you want", so shut up, stop whining, and get a life.

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so shut up, stop whining, and get a life.


Says the guy who comes on here to bitch at MK fans.

Troll-bait.

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the thing is *beep* we didn't exactly want a Christopher Nolans version on Mortal Kombat for the matter were everything is all real life we want a four armed freak like Goro ripping peoples heads off, and evil sorceror stealing peoples souls and an invasion of evil forces from another world invading earth or else it there would be no purpose of calling it Mortal Kombat. it just insulting the fans of the games. i mean this is turning into the legend of Chun li by making M Bison look different.

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What the hell else do you want? An exact word-for-word, scene-for-scene recreation of the original Mortal Kombat game on the big screen? You have any idea how horrifically BAD that would look? There's a reason why source material from video game/comic book movies gets altered a bit before filming - because it would SUCK if they didn't change it.
We're gonna have a bunch of wizards, robots, and brightly-clothed ninjas fighting each other on a jungle island? Ha.



Gosh you're an idiot because

1. If you can watch fantasy films like Lord of The Rings, Harry Potter, Hellboy, and Pan's Labyrinth the other worldly aspect with different creatures and species shouldn't be too hard for an audience to wrap their head around. MK wouldnt be any more "silly" or "sucky" than those films.

2. They didn't just alter it a bit they frickin retooled it from scratch almost by raping every characters' background and humanizing the other worldly species just to turn them into dispensable psychos. We don't want a beat for beat adaptation but we want them to stay true to the core storyline and give us true representations of the characters.

3. It wouldn't be a "jungle island" especially not in the first film but it would be a an alternate realm in between Earthrealm and Outworld with locales and arena that have Asian architecture.

4. You wouldn't have to worry about the robots because the first two games are before the "sci-fi" aspect came in.

5. If we can watch films with several creatures and sorcerers such as the above mentioned films in my first point this shouldn't be any worse.

6. If any writer or person can't see how a faithful adaptation of MK's premise, atmosphere,and characterizations would work then they have no creativity or imagination like the hack that made this abortion that hopefully got rejected by WB.

So think about that for a second next time you try to bitch about why we're upset or come up with the "Changes are necessary for an adaptation!" excuse....dumbass

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4. You wouldn't have to worry about the robots because the first two games are before the "sci-fi" aspect came in.


You're forgetting Kano's eye. Sci-Fi was in MK since the beginning. Doesn't mean it's sucky.

3. It wouldn't be a "jungle island" especially not in the first film but it would be a an alternate realm in between Earthrealm and Outworld with locales and arena that have Asian architecture.


He just said that because of the first movie. Like most "MK" fans, the first movie is Mortal Kombat.

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^ yes very true but they were more subtle and tame at that point before we started having characters like Cyrax etc.

2. Yeah it's pretty moronic to assume that the first film is as good as an MK film can get as well as assuming it's a definitive representation of the source.

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Roger Ebert has been quoted saying it's as good as a movie based on Mortal Kombat could be (he said this back in 1995).

It's one reason why I hate film critics. It's one reason why I hate pretentious film buffs. And it's one reason why I've been searching the city for him tirelessly so I can shoot him in the head.

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^ Sadly that's because movie critics are under the impression that video games(especially fighting games) can't have artistic merit much like the jerks that support "Rebirth".

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I love the original canon and support Rebirth, I just want something new from it.

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I love the original canon and support Rebirth, I just want something new from it.


Then you're sh!t out of luck because it's pretty much ripping off Saw,Law Abiding Citizen, and throwing in action sequences. Not anything "new" by any stretch of the imagination.

Why "reinvent the wheel" by COMPLETELY retooling something that's worked for several years?


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The only thing that needs changing is the production team of a new movie. The vision-less producer who likes marketing to kids and the sh!t-heel director who seems too busy ruining another perfectly good video game franchise need to be thrown from involvement.

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" Then you're sh!t out of luck because it's pretty much ripping off Saw,Law Abiding Citizen, and throwing in action sequences. Not anything "new" by any stretch of the imagination.

Why "reinvent the wheel" by COMPLETELY retooling something that's worked for several years?"


It's new to MK and that's what matters to me. I want MK to be mature thematically as well as aesthetically. Mortal Kombat has always bee a Mature rated series, but it's never been very adult. I'm sick of the nostalgia trip the franchise has been on for the last decade. " Worked for years" LOL Midway went out of business. I wouldn't call that working. It took SUPERMAN to bail them out not the precious original canon.
People can only be told the same story over and over again so many times before the public looses interest, Case in Pont: Batman (and about 95% of comics in general) is not the same character now that he was in his inception

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Case in Pont: Batman (and about 95% of comics in general) is not the same character now that he was in his inception


And we're not talking about comic book characters. We're talking about video game characters. Different mediums, and different character portrayals. Plus, movies based on comic books didn't do well for years because of the producers of the movies, not the characters themselves (Batman proved that).

There's never been a notion that MK was going to get it's plug pulled, which would really be the only reason for such a drastic change in direction.

Midway went out of business. I wouldn't call that working.


Midway going out of business wasn't MK's fault. Had it been, Midway would have closed in 1992.

Mortal Kombat has always bee a Mature rated series, but it's never been very adult.


The only "not very adult" aspect of MK were those horrible movies made back in the late 90's; movies that really didn't adapt MK very well at all. The MK storyline holds a lot more potential than some campy Enter The Dragon-wannabe bullsh!t. You don't need to change everything about a story just to portray it as dark and gritty (Batman also proved that).

I want MK to be mature thematically as well as aesthetically.


Oh yeah, considering the story for Rebirth makes no real sense at all on its own.

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Midway going out of business WAS in part MK's fault. The Deadly Alliance trilogy were three of the WtORST 3d fighting games ever made. Anybody who has even the most basic knowledge of fighting games knows that.

If WB hadn't bought the MK, ,The series would be DEAD. NO ONE else was interested.

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Really? And that's why both Deadly Alliance and Deception won multiple "Best Fighting Game" awards in their respective time periods, right?

Armageddon didn't come out as strong, but it still won awards. The only real flop was MKvsDCU, which seems more like a poor decision from upper management than anything.

One single game can rocket a fledgling game company into the spotlight, but you can't blame one game from the demise of a company. Especially when that company produces other games, produces games for all of the major consoles, has multiple offices all over the world, and obviously has incompetent people at the helm who didn't know how to manage it properly (just look at TNA: Impact; I rest my case).

In fact, MK was probably the only game still bringing in money, aside from the sports games they were developing. Poor management killed Midway, not a storyline that mostly takes place in another plane of existence.

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FACT: Mortal Kombat Vs DCU was a critical failure not a commercial failure, it out sold all three of it's predecessors, it just wasn't enough to save Midway's ass. DO YOUR HOMEWORK.

FACT: The mainstream gaming press doesn't know dick about fighting games.

www.fightersgeneration.com Check out some real reviews from a genre veteran.



MKDA
" Deadly Alliance has it's flashy moments and packs a handful of extras; but the gameplay just doesn't match up with quite a few of the other 3D fighting games on the market (or 2D for that matter). They also could have done a much better job developing some of the new characters and fighting styles... because several are just plain uninspired."

MKD
"Overall, MK: Deception isn't terrible in casual play... you can still have some fun projectile wars; and if you waste enough brain space to memorize some of the chain combos, you can definitely "type your friends an ass kicking" for old time's sake. In case you haven't figured it out yourself, Deception falls very short when you compare it with the top 3D (and 2D) fighting games of this era.

The story & presentation feels rushed this time and it's pretty clear that Deadly Alliance was a lot more thought out. Deception might be worth a buy if you're looking for some simple, violent, and stupid entertainment... because there's no doubt you'll find yourself laughing at random things during the game.

There are some good unlockables and flashback movies that are worth seeing... it's definitely cool to be able to look back see how far Mortal Kombat has come (and where it went wrong). In closing, I guess it's mildly entertaining unlocking all the extras featuring in Deception, but don't think that makes this fighting game any good."

MKA
"It seems like quite a few mainstream reviewers out there just look at the name Mortal Kombat and somehow fail to realize how crappy this game plays in comparison to so many other fighting games out there. Or perhaps some of them are just that shallow, and really don't know a good fighting game engine from their elbow. On the flipside, I know what a good fighting game is... and no, it's definitely not Mortal Kombat: Armageddon, but perhaps it's "Armageddon" for the MK series. Ooh, I get the joke now.... good one Midway.

So is Armageddon even the least bit fun? Well, if you're a connoisseur of fighting games and like playing a game that's worth taking the time to become skilled at it, then the answer is NO. This game will be frustrating to hardcore fighting game players, because it's clunky and nearly unplayable. It's unbelievably slow and one of the clunkiest fighters I've played in recent years.

Even if it wasn't such a lag-fest (offline), the bare bones gameplay mechanics don't even come close to the current top 2D or 3D fighting games. However, if you're more of a casual gamer, and the type of person that is easily amused by senseless and mildly humorous blood and gore, AND maybe you like button masher friendly fighting games; then I'm sure you'll manage to find something to like about Armageddon, because it was made for shallow people like you. I'm sorry, but it's true.

Don't be fooled by the vast selection of characters in this game, because the majority of them have become such "hollow" designs with seemingly ZERO personality and uninspired movelists. As far as the returning classic characters go, they were more fun to play in the earlier MK games... nuff said. Armageddon might be entertaining for some of the fans that eat up anything violent and/or Mortal Kombat, but for the rest of us, this game is a joke. Fighting games aren't so simple anymore, but Ed Boon and Midway still seem to think so. Sorry, but this "cut & paste job" simply doesn't deserve any respect from a hardcore fighting game fan like myself."

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www.fightersgeneration.com Check out some real reviews from a genre veteran.


When you said "genre veteran", I was first assuming you meant someone who's adept in producing games. Then I see that you're just talking about some fighting game enthusiast.

While those reviews do hold truth, bottom line is that they still made Midway money, which is the essential component to running a business. One video game franchise can't support a company that big, no matter how popular the franchise is. MK had nothing to do with Midway's demise. In fact, it was the thing (barely) keeping Midway afloat at the end.

I'm not going to say that I don't agree that the game and its story needs a huge revamp; I agree %100. But it doesn't need to be changed around completely to where it doesn't even look or feel like MK anymore. And that fact is going to be proven once the new MK game comes out later this year, which is said to be darker and grittier without the sacrifice of the game background's foundation. Hell, even the guy who writes The Fighters Generation says he's looking forward to the release, and thinks that everyone should give this game a chance.

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http://www.bloody-disgusting.com/news/23052 suck it haters!!!

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Hmmmm. Webisodes, I'd still rather that over a feature film of this. Still say it's a stupid idea though from a creative standpoint.

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It still got turned down as a feature film.

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in due time sir.

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no it didn't. this web series is building up to a potential film series. this was announced a while ago. i dont undertand why MK fans can't like this AND the original series. i never really cared for MK until i saw the trailer. then i became interested. and i can honestly say tht i am a HUGE MK fan, of both the normal series AND Rebirth.

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...You do realize that the webseries isn't following Rebirth's storyline, right? They've said that the Sonya/Jax/Kano episode will be more like Rebirth, but only visually, not in context (which makes sense, since their story takes place in the "real world").

This isn't about the first two movies; this is about wanting a film that's more faithful to the franchise while better than the first two at the same time. If you can't understand why a fan of MK's universe (original story, characters, timeline and etc. that come from the game) can't like Rebirth, then you must not be much of a HUGE fan.

By the way, if Rebirth was the thing that got you to become a fan of Mortal Kombat, then boy are you going to be disappointed when you play the games. Because they're nothing like that sh!t film (hell, they're nothing like the first two crappy movies, or those crappy TV shows, either).

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i know its not following rebirth. but the web series is being made because of how popular the fake teaser was.

and ive played MK, MKII, MKIII, UMKIII, MK: Deception, and MK: Armageddon. i love all of them. but i also like the rebirth concept as well.

its exactly like the 1998 Godzilla film. its NOTHING like the original Japanese series. but i like it. even though i am a huge Japanese Godzilla fan.

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i know its not following rebirth. but the web series is being made because of how popular the fake teaser was.


That's not the thing being contested. Rebirth was rejected by WB; no one ever said WB wouldn't hire Kevin Tancharoen for anything related to MK. So again, you won't be seeing Rebirth on the big screen.

and ive played MK, MKII, MKIII, UMKIII, MK: Deception, and MK: Armageddon. i love all of them. but i also like the rebirth concept as well.

its exactly like the 1998 Godzilla film. its NOTHING like the original Japanese series. but i like it. even though i am a huge Japanese Godzilla fan.


Godzilla was an old Japanese series adapted into a modern American motion picture; Mortal Kombat is an American video game, which makes translation a lot easier. Not to mention, the franchise was rebooted multiple times, with only one character remaining similar in the entire scope. Also, in the American version, Godzilla is still a huge reptile attacking a city; not a reptilian humanoid ex professional wrestler who robs banks (in other words, the character wasn't changed to the point where he didn't resemble the original, unlike Rebirth).

Aside from that, it's nice that you like the both the original franchise and the attempted butchering of it through short film. Obviously WB didn't see it the way you or any other Rebirth fan saw it, so they decided to pass on it.

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"And we're not talking about comic book characters. We're talking about video game characters. Different mediums, and different character portrayals. Plus, movies based on comic books didn't do well for years because of the producers of the movies, not the characters themselves (Batman proved that)".

Sure they're different mediums but both deal with characters and backstories. Not too much of a difference actually. Comic Book movies didn't do well because of the producers and the fact that they were catered to kids and didn't care about realism.

Batman/Christoper Nolan proved that everything needs to make sense and have a realistic feeling. Characters have to be complicated and be more than one dimensional (just hero or villian). Any director or film student will tell you that changes to source material is needed to meet certain criteria. Meeting this criteria is what makes the film become a great film.

I grew up with the MK series and I was a huge fan of the movies. Now that I grew up and I'm a film student myself, I can see how terrible those films were. Fans of the game tell themselves the first movie was good because like any die hard fan, they tend to automatically like things that have to do with what they're fans of.

MK needed a more realistic factor. Not totally realistic, but in order to CAPTURE people and not just make them say "this is a cool movie" it needs to feel realistic. You shouldn't be reminded that you're watching a movie.

I think Mortal Kombat Legacy is awesome. It has that Twisted Metal Black feel, without the battle cars. I understand why fans are so pissed about the changes, but I prefer the changes when it comes to making it a film or series.

MK:L is way better than both MK films imo. Now as long as they don't make a MK:L video game.

Everyone is going to have their own opinion. I like this re-imagining.

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"6. If any writer or person can't see how a faithful adaptation of MK's premise, atmosphere,and characterizations would work then they have no creativity or imagination like the hack that made this abortion that hopefully got rejected by WB."

Yes, because when I think of creativity or imagination I think of faithful adaptations.

Rebirth IS creativity and imagination.

You just didn't like it.

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You just didn't like it.


Obviously, neither did Warner Bros.

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^ Not to mention that ANYONE can take the namesake of preexisting source and just make up their own sh!T entirely.

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jus two words for u
mudda *beep*

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^ Thanks for that.....I think I was cutthroat enough for him to get the point though lol.

btw Since when are you an MK fan orinanime?

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^ Cool been a fan since then as well but I didnt expect it because not many people from that visit common CBM forums like for First Class, Spider-Man, Green Hornet etc.. are passionate MK fans like myself hence why I had fun tearing the OP a new one in my post at the beginning of this thread and thought it was funny that you basically came in to do the same. Lol

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"When you drastically alter the game/source material.. you get crap like Uwe Boll movies."
Yep, THAT is the reason Uwe Boll movies suck. If only he could stick to the source material, we would have many game-to-movie-conversion gems on our hands! You heard it here fellas!

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its getting made into a web mini series instead of a film. Kevin did an interview recently stating the 1st of 10 episodes will be released the same time the new game gets released,

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http://www.movieweb.com/news/exclusive-kevin-tancharoen-talks-mortal-kombat



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^ Its going to be more canonical to the games though.

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You have to understand though, that when somebody is a huge fan of something and it is something dear to them, they won't take kindly to big changes. The big fans of Mortal Kombat who played most, if not all, the games and actually followed and liked the storyline, hated Rebirth and that was something that came as no surprise. You made it clear you weren't a big fan to begin with, so it comes as no surprise to me that you liked Rebirth.

Being a huge fan of the games myself, I was among these "nerds going out of their minds over something fictional". I absoulutely hated Rebirth. I don't mind change in an adaption but when you change it to the point where it has almost nothing incommon with the source material, there's a problem. Sure, Rebirth was dark, gritty, and violent, which I liked, but it changed way too much and did not feel like Mortal Kombat.

What the hell else do you want? An exact word-for-word, scene-for-scene recreation of the original Mortal Kombat game on the big screen? You have any idea how horrifically BAD that would look? There's a reason why source material from video game/comic book movies gets altered a bit before filming - because it would SUCK if they didn't change it

That's all YOUR opinion. It's not fact. Plus, it's impossible to do an exact word-for-word and scene-for-scene rerecation of the original game when it had no dialouge or scenes. It was a simple arcade fighting game.

I would like a Mortal Kombat movie that was like the 1995 one but with the added gore, dark and gritty environment, and more developed backstories. I really don't think that's too much to ask for.

To be honest, I'm personally sick of re-imaginings and realistic movies. Does nobody have any imgination anymore? Must we make everything "realistic"? And must we change everyting to "reimagine" it? Can't we leave it alone? If it was successful to begin with, why change it? If it wasn't, that would be a different story.

Anyway, my whole point here is that the majority of people who weren't huge fans of the franchise supported Rebirth. The majority of people who are, did not. That's just how it goes.

You don't "own" Mortal Kombat, and you can't get "everything you want" so shut up, stop whining, and get a life.


We may not own the rights to the series and may not have created the games, but we certainly own a copy of the game, have played it, and therefore can voice our opinion on it. We have that right just like you do. Plus, it doesn't matter if we did "own" it or not. Many people "own" something that was altered by somebody else, whether it was to the owner's liking or not.

I'm glad Rebirth isn't being made into a feature film. A film based on the web series, Legacy, would be more acceptable and supported by the fans. At least Legacy keeps intone with the original mythology of the games.

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There´s modern movie goers for you. Making everything gritty and overly serious -as well as spoon feeding every detail that they are too lazy to figure out for themselves- while sucking all the fun and color is automatically great for them.

Batman Begins, which is a pretty mediocre film but is hailed as masterpiece, is the movie that started this trend.

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