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Too Much of the Lord's Name in Vain!


Too many blatant uses of the Lord's name in vain. Too keep it "real" other curses could have been used, but the writer and director show no respect for God's name. For that reason alone, this movie isn't worth renting, buying or watching if you care about God's commandments.

Other than that... Decent acting, but slow and boring and not realistic. If you want to waste a couple hours of your precious life, then watch this. If your time is precious to you, then find something else to watch.

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Hollywood is secular.

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True, but the vast majority of their audience isn't.

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The United States is secular and not a theocracy. Deal with it.

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Yes, it is! And this place is not your personal church, whatever you call it.

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Church is a religious, not a secular, thing.

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No sh!t.


Hope changes everything.

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vast majority of their audience - based in your village, you mean.

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Simple solution...don't go to see 'R' rated movies.

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I don't know what you mean. I didn't hear Elron's name mentioned even once. lol

Your mythological being will survive the offense.

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Wonderful reply, thank you for that, made me laugh! :)

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Nor Vader, or those boys from Dogtown.

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Why should the director care about your god?

I hope you realize the irony in you saying this movie isn't realistic by the way. No matter how unrealistic it might have been it's still not as unrealistic as the bible.

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Why is it that our society calls for tolerance and sensitivity to just about everyone's individual beliefs, lifestyle, and opinions, but the same courtesy is not extended to Christians?

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Sure it is. If it wasn't then Christians wouldn't be allowed to practice their religion.

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Because many Christians do not extend it to others unless for an underlying reason.

An example: many conservative Christians in the US live on the basis that the government should stay out of their lives. Which is fine to have such a viewpoint, or ideology until it concerns something personal to them concerning their religion. Like abortion, or teaching Creationism/ID (which are the same thing) in schools, keeping certain people from holding office (non-Christians whether religious, or not) etc.,

When it threatens them, it's "persecution" when they are the one's threatening others well, it's right and moral.

I mean, I just read an article yesterday about Christians whining about being "persecuted" because Costco labeled the Bible as "fiction" and called for all Christians to boycott Costco. If they did the same for other religious texts, do you really think they would've cried foul then? Of course not because Christians, for the most part, only care about themselves.

-Nam

I'm on the road less traveled...

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"...until it concerns something personal to them concerning their religion. Like abortion, or teaching Creationism/ID (which are the same thing) in schools, keeping certain people from holding office (non-Christians whether religious, or not) etc., "

Nobody is trying to force creationism or ID on anyone (and no they are not the same thing), but some do think that some should have the option. Truth be told, Creationists are the ones having other views imposed on them. Even parents who home-school are being forced, in some situations, to teach evolution. So who's having who's views imposed on them?

And there is nothing theocratic about opposing abortion. It's perfectly legal to speak out against it. Pro-lifers see Roe V Wade as a bad law that has led to basically legalized murder. Opposing abortion is no different than opposing any other law. So when liberals push for gun-control are they trying to create an interventionist government? Double-standards work both ways.

Here is something else you list as an example of how Christians are allegedly hypocritical keeping certain people from holding office (non-Christians whether religious, or not) etc. So Christians are hypocritical for trying to keep candidates they don't support out of office?? You mean voting??? So voting is OK for everyone else, but just not Christians??? No, there is no anti-Christian agenda. Nothing to see here.

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In many red states, especially in the south, Creationism/ID is being forced (by legislation) into the public school systems. I read about it all the time, I have family, who are Creationists, who talk about it all the time; how they can do it where it's not "unconstitutional", loopholes that can be used to their advantage; so please with the rhetoric such as Creationism and ID are not the same: they are the same. It's the tool that Creationists are trying to use to get Creationism taught in public schools.

-Nam

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Nobody is trying to force creationism or ID on anyone (and no they are not the same thing),


Yes they are, and yes it is.

and no they are not the same thing), but some do think that some should have the option. Truth be told, Creationists are the ones having other views imposed on them.


Science isn't a religion or ideology. Science deals in provable and testable facts.

Even parents who home-school are being forced, in some situations, to teach evolution.


Just to be clear: Evolution and the Theory of Evolution are two separate things. Evolution is a fact. You can test it. The first one tells you what it is, the second one tells you how it works. Example: gravity. Gravity is observable and can be demonstrated, the Theory of Gravity tells you how gravity works.

So, home-schooling teaches the application of Evolution where as the Theory of Evolution could be shown on how that Evolution works but many Conservative Christians may teach the former but use Creationism/Intelligent Design for the explanation.

And there is nothing theocratic about opposing abortion.


You are right, there isn't but Christians use the Bible to speak out against it not secular reasoning.

Pro-lifers see Roe V Wade as a bad law that has led to basically legalized murder.


Irrelevant.

So Christians are hypocritical for trying to keep candidates they don't support out of office??


No. I mean there are state Constitutions that actually stipulate that no one but those who believe in the "Almighty God" (i.e. Christian God) can hold office. While being unconstitutional, seven states still have that in their Constitutions.

No, there is no anti-Christian agenda. Nothing to see here.


Yeah, that's why some states continuously attempt (and have done in the recent past) to put up the Christian Crucifix in public places, and the Ten Commandments in public places such as Courthouses and other government buildings.

Also the fact in the deeper Christian controlled states and legislatures impose Christianity wherever and whenever they can, and ignoring the law, sometimes even their own law such as Arkansas of recent date.

-Nam




I am on the road less traveled...

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A kingdom divided against itself cannot stand.
The kingdom of prince of the power of the air wont throw stones at his own kind

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I heard that the puritans left Europe to go to USA because of intolerance. Turns out that it was because people wouldn't tolerate their intolerance, so they went somewhere they could remain intolerant.

I bet you don't get my point :)

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Dont knock something before you try it (for real)

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Out of everything in this movie, that's what bothers you the most? Violence, immorality? My god..

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Most ridiculous criticism ever leveled at a film. Congratulations.

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I like fantasy stories too. In fact, I'm a Tolkein fan, and I'm quite fond of Asimov's work too. But I'm not bothered that somebody is using names of characters from other fantasy novels in vein. Even if that particular fantasy novel does have a lot of fans who tend to be overly-sensitive, and are usually bent upon imposing their silly rules and ideals upon everybody else.

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You could have gone to the Parental Advisory and checked up ahead of time on things that might offend you.

Or, you could tell us that you believe in fairy tales and think we should too.

That, sadly, is an all too common mental illness.

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