A small quibble about the syphilis



This being in - and shortly after - 1899, the doctor could not (especially in these circumstances) be identifying any case of syphilis ("The Great Imposter", as medical science used to call it) except in the primary stage (unless condyloma latum does happen to be visible in the secondary stage.)

The patient's death from untreated tertiary syphilis is at least three years in the future after the secondary stage, and most likely many more than three years. (Whereas it seems as though she dies within something like 6 months at the most.)



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I think she only had primary when he diagnosed her, but there was an off-screen time lapse before the following scenes.

However when she died she visibly only had secondary syphilis not tertiary and secondary doesn't kill you. I guess it's just artistic licence, making the general point that the disease was an occupational hazard and it could be fatal.

They also translated syphilis as "clap" in the subtitles when the slang name in English is "pox".

I used to want to change the world. Now I just want to leave the room with a little dignity.

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interestingly enough, syphilis is a new world disease, brought to Europe from the Americas.

I absolutely adored this movie. The guy who reviewed it on the front page and hated it watched it in theaters with friends. I feel this movie is best enjoyed alone, at home. There is some weird fetishes which can be and are arousing and I can see someone not getting emotionally involved in the film if with friends.

only thing I did not like was the end, with the petals falling and the cut to modern day Paris, it was a little too "in-your-face" with the message that prozzies were better off then than now.

It was already obvious from watching the movie, they had to be registered, obligatory doctors exams, made their own money, when damaged they were still often cared for.

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it was a little too "in-your-face" with the message that prozzies were better off then than now.

I went to a Q&A screening and someone in the audience made the point that comparing women in a high-end bordello with streetwalkers is entirely misleading. If Bonello wanted to make an accurate comparison with prostitution nowadays, a smart escort agency would have been more appropriate.

I used to want to change the world. Now I just want to leave the room with a little dignity.

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Good man, he's absolutely right.

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I interpreted the last scene to be that the movie could play out exactly the same way, a hundred years later.
The director said that he wanted it to be as if Clothilde had fallen asleep for a 100 years and woken up as a prostitute still.

I agree that showing her as a street walker was not the best comparison technically but it had more of an impact than if she had been shown as an escort.
Fatima had a fetish for a wiggle in her scoot

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The director said that he wanted it to be as if Clothilde had fallen asleep for a 100 years and woken up as a prostitute still.


That's almost exactly what I thought had happened. I thought it was ironic how she wanted to get out and yet so many years later she still works as a prostitute. I also think that her being on the street goes along with the story because the brothel had to be closed.

Sorry for replying to such an old comment.

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Syphilis was very "in" back then.

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I saw ppl dying with the Syphilis (im remember a very old woman in tertiary stage) and its a terrible decease, and i agree for the different stages.

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