Those kids are so damn annoying on this show, especially Miko. She really is a pest and I wish that the Decepticons would kidnap her and send her to some far out of the way planet where I don't have to see or listen to her annoying voice. I'm starting to get into this show but I'm such a fan of Generation 1, that I can't help but compare the two. But then the producers of this show are the same ones from the live-action movies.
shareOh Boy, here we go! This thread again. . . .
"Fate rarely calls upon us at a moment of our choosing."
That's right...this thread again. What is your point? Is there some rule stating that folks can't have an opinion more than once...you don't have to read or even reply to this post.
shareNot really, this is just the thousandth thread about getting rid of the children characters in a Transformers related show.
This is gonna turn out like every other get rid of the kids thread on the Transformers related boards. So yeah. . .
"Fate rarely calls upon us at a moment of our choosing."
It's on The Hub you the kids aren't going anywhere.
sharelol i hate when people bitch about multiple threads when you would have to search through a couple pages, and then revive a dead/old thread to say your piece. Sometimes people want to track their own thread rather than add their voice to jumble of other ones.
You are way less likely to get a reply to your specific post when you reply to someone elses post than in your own thread too.
most people on imdb arent regulars to specific forums so much that they should be expected to see their opinion already posted.
Its only the imdb users that have nothin else goin on in their life that would ever care about multiple threads of the same topic. The rest of us dont care because we dont notice. Its even worse when the "multiple threads" arent even that common, and its only like 1 other one that no ones replied to for a long time.
Most of us are just here to say our piece, leave, and come back to it sometime later to see what people think. We arent that worried about the opinion of all of imdbs past, we just want to know what people think about what we are thinking, at the time we are thinking it lol.
Stop complaining about the kids.
They are awful and a total childish *beep* immature element. They needed them to improve younger audiences.
Looks like they wanted retards and boring teenagers.
Please somebody just shoot in the head Miko.
They were missing from the previous episode and hardly there for the latest. I don't find I missed them or any of the humans much, but I dont' really mind them either.
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I find myself being less annoyed at Miko since the series started. The others are still quite "meh". I would like to see episodes that don't try to shoehorn the human kids (or humans at all) into the story, or episodes that develop their characters: Does Jack have a dad, and if not, what happened to him? What kind of a stressful life did Raf lead that made him so emotionally unstable? What would make Miko act less obnoxious, and see that life isn't all fun and games?
For me, they are currently hovering in a void where I don't know whether I would like to get to know them better or whether I would rather see them leave.
Get rid of them! That would make the show so much more interesting.
shareI agree- they need to go. The show would be so much better without them. I've been DVRing the show and edditing out all of the unnecessary parts that involve the kids (you would be amazed at how much better the show is!). Season 1 of Generation one was flawless in that there were no annoying characters. Season two was a mixed bag. Half of it was good, while half of it suffered from bad writing and the introduction of annoying characters. Season Three... Wheelie and Daniel-need I say more!
Get on the chew pipe!
Of course he has a dad, lol.
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What happened happened and can't happen any other way
NO THERE HAS BEEN HUMANS IN EVER SHOW I EVER WATCHED
I watch too many movies.....
The only 'kids' they need to get rid of are the whining bitching forum posters who complain about the kids in the first place. If it's that horrible, don't watch the show. Someone's always gonna complain, like that they changed PRime's body type from the original series, movie Bumblebee vs TV one, MEgatron is a jet instead of a gun, or a tank, Starscream isn't red, etc. If you like the original so much, I got great news, it's on in the early morning, watch that instead, you won't be missed.
shareHonestly, these kids are the most tolerable of all of the kids in any Transformers series...and that includes the protohuman kids from Beast Wars who were barely in the series and Sari from Animated. (Sari still wasn't as annoying as other kids in TF history.)
Actually, I like Jack. Miko is okay and I barely pay any attention to Raf.
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The kids weren't written very well in the first couple of episodes, they bothered me too. Especially Miko, clearly they were trying way too hard to appeal to the tween demographic. And what's with the retarded hair?
Jack is extremely bland, but he's occasionally shown promise, like the drag race and the Arachnia episodes. I like the relationship he has with Arcee.
And I can't complain about Raf, he was the best of the three from the beginning, he hasn't really developed much of a personality beyond the nerd cliché. But it's still early days yet.
I don't know why all Transformers writers or directors are uncomfortable with telling a straight-up robot story. Who honestly watches Transformers and looks forward to the parts with the humans?
It's kind of like the Aliens or Predator films, we're all just looking forward to the aliens, human characters be damned.
I would think writing about immortal alien robots would be far easier than writing realistic teenagers. Then again, if these kids in Transformers were realistic, from language alone, they'd have to give it an M rating.
Straight out Transformers with no Humans could get repetitive. I say keep -one- of the humans but actually develop their life story, make us "care" about him, make him or her relevant. Make us "root" for whatever Human character is left.
My vote goes to the little kid. The other two are annoying and predictable. The little kid is the most bearable one. Strengthen his bond with Bumblebee.
But yeah, please... get rid of Miko. Send her back to Japan.
I don't think the kids would be so bad if they got rid of Miko.
I think she alone really brings out the annoyance of the kids in the series, and unfortunately puts the other two in a bad light. I'm really getting sick of her not listening to anyone and thinking it's cool to almost get her head blown off by a 30 foot decepticon, and putting her best friend Bulkhead in unnecessary danger all the time. Not to mention she goes through about 5 different accents each episode.
I said this in another thread but the problem I've had going back to all the incarnations of Transformers other than G1, is that the human characters are nothing more than exaggerated stereotypes of someone of that demographic would be. Spike to me was ageless which really worked well. He could have been anything from 16-25 the way he was depicted in G1 so anyone could relate to him. His dad seemed like a real dad as well. I think the closest they've come to recreating Spike and Sparkplug relationship is with Jack and his mother and this series though. I think the show would have been much better off if they just focused on him, and cut the other two kids out. Or use the other two kids the same way they used Chip and Carly in G1. Just sprinkle them sparingly throughout the season.
The comics are just fine without humans, but it is nice to occasionally have someone to relate to and it's fascinating to watch two species learning about each other.
I think G.I.Joe and Transformers are a perfect match. Instead of some random soldiers like in the movies you have this team of already established human characters with fan-bases, they actually have a reason to be directly involved with the Transformers. That said, it also means you're working with a massive cast of characters.
Seriously, the kids aren't the problem in this series. I watch this show religiously and I love every moment of it. Raf, Miko, and Jack add some depth to the show, if you've seen some of the later episodes, the kids have brought out some great character moments in the robots, especially Ratchet, Bulkhead, and Arcee. Are we really going to continue complaining about the kids? Think of it this way, be glad we got these three and not any of the annoying children from the Unicron Trilogy.
shareThe kids are essential to the show they give it emotion far more than was ever seen in G1.
shareNo the kids have been given moments but it's clearly meant forthe younger audience. It's better when it's more mature. No humans to make it more HUMAN.
shareThere was a quote from a famous science fiction author that covered a related subject. It explained exactly why you can't truly erase the human element from a science fiction/fantasy story. The bottom line was: do NOT alienate your readers; have something to compare and contrast the other (aliens, fantasy races) to--a reference point if you will.
Now, if you hate humans so much, you know exactly what you can do about it--and do it right so you don't leave a mess behind.
"Amazing, a booby trap that actually catches boobies." -Optimus Prime