Why did the boyfriend have to be white?
Why didn't they give her a black, or a latino guy. Why did they go for the standard blonde, blue eyed white guy? It didn't make sense and kind of ruined it for me.
shareWhy does it matter what color her boyfriend is? Just because you're racist doesn't mean she has to be.
shareJesus, is that the best you can do? I was hoping for an intelligent, insightful response as opposed to the typical "youre a racist" one. Too much to hope for.
Do we always have to see blonde, blue eyed boyfriends all the time? Even in movies about latinos? Aren't you tired of that? There was no reason for her to hook up with that guy
No, that's not the best I can do; that's the best you deserve. Considering the man wasn't even blonde haired and blue eyed. Michael Vartan is a brown haired, green eyed Polish Jew.
How can someone offer an insightful, intelligent response when you can't even get your racism right? As for needing a reason to hook up - when two people like each other, they ignore your brand of racism (or any brand, for that matter) and do what they want.
No, I'm not tired of seeing interracial relationships on screen. I think we need more of it. Every time a Hispanic woman gets cast opposite a white guy, a black man gets cast opposite a white girl, an Asian woman gets cast opposite a black guy, a Hispanic woman gets cast opposite a Polynesian man, an Asian man gets cast opposite a white man (biracial gay couples, FTW!) or any ethnicity gets cast opposite any different ethnicity, my heart swells a little.
Okay, I get it. You're not a racist and proud of it. Congratulations. But can you forget about your "I'm not a racist, you are a racist" agenda for a moment? I don't think casting a white guy in the Martin Luther King story would be a good idea, would you? There are practical reasons why casting a white man in this movie was not a good idea, so relax.
Cataleya came to this country under dubious circumstances. Naturally she would be suspicious of anyone she came in contact with. It makes more sense that she would be with a Latin guy, or a black guy because they're her own kind, and they blend better, so not to bring attention to her. If you know anything about America, then you know they tend to pay attention to interracial couples. Obviously that would be the last thing she wants.
Beyond that, in a cinematic sense, its not all that pleasing to the eyes. Yes, I said it. Columbiana is not Guess Who's Coming to Dinner. Its an action movie. Its not about making political statements about race.
And by the way, you called me a racist, twice. I realize that it's all a part of your indictment of racism scheme, but I would appreciate it if you didn't do it again. As you have no idea who I am, and what's in my heart.
I don't have to know who you are. Your agenda is clear based on your statements.
Whether they blend together or not - they're both painters and they're never in public together. Never. Never ever. She shows up in his apartment, has her way with her and leaves. Her concern isn't what the look like together; it's whether they're ever even seen together. His skin color has no impact on that.
As for the "its not all that pleasing to the eyes." Guess what? Spewing racist nonsense is what makes you a racist. Your implication that interracial couples are only appropriate in cases where political statements are being made is damning enough evidence.
There is no practical reason color should have anything to do with her choice of lover. Your strongest argument is that it looks bad. That makes you look bad.
You know, if you would've tried, JUST TRIED, I think you would've figured out where I was coming from. I told you that I didnt like you calling me a racist. Does that sound like something a racist would say? But youre so caught up in your "I'm not a racist and proud of it" crusade, that it's brainwashed you. At this point, the only thing that would neutralize you would probably be an ass whipping at the hands of a bunch of black guys. I for one, hope that happens real soon.
share"Does that sound like something a racist would say?"
Yes, it does. I'm interested to know how an ass-whipping by a bunch of guys of any race would erase the obviously ignorant things you said. Does it specifically have to be black guys? Do you believe black guys have special powers that erase stupid message board posts when they punch? Or is it when the kick? Maybe they have a special "black guy" attack? That isn't what Spike Lee meant when he described the "magical negro."
You're the kind of person that says "I'm not racist, but those chinks really are bad drivers." Saying you aren't a racist only convinces the gullible. The rest of us will judge you by your actions.
Posting on a message board that you're sick of seeing interracial couples because it isn't pleasing to the eye, especially when you inaccurately describe someone using what you believe is a worn out Hollywood trope, sells your beliefs much more than your pleas.
Let's just cut to the chase:
I'm not a racist.
But of course to you, that means nothing, as you happen to know me better than I know myself.
A little tip: just because someone doesn't want to see interracial couples on the screen (which isn't me, either), does not make them a racist. If you don't believe me take a look at any dictionary. There are many of them online, learn something. Maybe then you'll get off your high horse and stop accusing anybody who doesn't love everybody and everything, of being a racist.
You know, just because you SAY you're not a racist does not mean you're not a racist, either. You come off as a real ass hole. I think you're a racist.
@ mariposa-9: I'm black and tend to notice 'casting issues' in movies not because I'm racist but because I'm more sensitive to these things. however, i fail to see your point in this case - if you consider that most minority communities or neighbourhoods tend to be close knit with members being aware of each other's businesses and family histories or connections, it would make sense for someone like Cataleya, who was intent on keeping a low profile and remaining unnoticed to date outside the Colombian community or even outside her ethnicity as this would be a bit too close to home. Having a boyfriend was a big enough risk for her to take in the first place, why would she want to add to the stakes by dating someone who as a result of a shared background could connect the dots in her life (look how easy it was for Don Luis to figure out who she was and her relationship with Emilio). Danny was not a racist choice, it was a wise choice and perhaps the only choice if she ever went down the boyfriend route. Think about it, anybody who went out with Cataleya was going to ask questions and wonder where she was from and as curious as Danny was about her, there was no way he could find out the truth if she was careful enough (sure the random pic on his phone, blew her cover but she didn't foresee any of that happening). Basically, if you watch this movie without bias, you'll see that the white boyfriend actually adds to the story as opposed to being a part of some grand racist design.
shareOkay, don't make him a columbian, make him a black guy.
My point was, that in a cinematic sense, they didnt match up well, and it also seemed self serving, and pc.
And as a black person, don't you wanna see some black love on the screen sometime? You know full well, that if the story went from columbia to canada, there is no way theyd have a white canadian woman hookin up with a brotha. The producers would say the same thing I said, "it doesn't make sense."
On a side note: whenever someone cries racism when there is no reason to suspect it, it hinders the cause, and eventually angers and desensitizes people. So if at some point, a claim is justified, the response may be, "just another whiner bitchin about racism."
lol 'black love'
nerd
Don't agree with the OP, but don't you think you should know what race he/she is? Could be white.
I get tired of this trend where people are looking for a reason to call someone a racist.
I graduated from the college of the streets, I gotta Phd in how to make ends meet.
I graduated from the college of the streets, I gotta Phd in how to make ends meet.The Dude. (It took me a sec to recall where that was from) share
Inflation in the nation don't bother me, cuz I'm a scholar with a dollar you can plainly see...
Pretty good... your interpration of what's racism and what's not may be off, but you do know something about music. share
It makes more sense that she would be with a Latin guy, or a black guy because they're her own kind, and they blend better, so not to bring attention to her.
You know, Mariposa, I never thought of it this way, but you're right. An interracial couple still rates a second look. It's pretty much accepted, but there are still some people who will take a hard and possibly disapproving look at an interracial couple. And Cataleya was all about avoiding anyone looking at her at all, except when she wanted to stand out and misdirect attention. She always wants to make sure she's not seen in public with her boyfriend, but if she had been thinking strictly in terms of personal security, she wouldn't have a boyfriend in the first place. Any person she loves is going to be a hole in her armor and she's always going to be aware someone after her might find out about them.
This actually makes her relationship with Danny more poignant, as it really illustrates how she has forgotten herself. She's letting her heart take charge-she just wants to be with a guy she's fallen for, like a normal girl. And she's not a normal girl, so she knows it's probably not going to end well, but she just wants that one shred of normality in her life. I don't know if that's what they were going for, but in that context, it makes sense that for the purpose of the story, she would have a boyfriend of a different race.
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@mariposa-9
FYI, interracial relationships,marriages and couples are a fact of life where I'm from----showing one onscreen is no longer the political issue it wasn't to be, so get ever yourself.
"Beyond that, in a cinematic sense, its not all that pleasing to the eyes. Yes, I said it. Columbiana is not Guess Who's Coming to Dinner. Its an action movie. Its not about making political statements about race."
Who cares what the hell you think? Like I said interracial relationships are a FACT of life----they're not that big a deal anymore. So there's NOTHING wrong with showing them because THEY'RE A PART OF REAL LIFE,duh!!!!
"duh" you've just proven how stupid you are. I'm not talking about real life. I'm talking about a movie. I do happen to know that in real life these things happen. In fact, I'm all for it. If you could've gotten over yourself for a moment maybe you could've figured out where I was coming from.
sharemariposa-9 wrote..."And by the way, you called me a racist, twice. I realize that it's all a part of your indictment of racism scheme, but I would appreciate it if you didn't do it again. As you have no idea who I am, and what's in my heart."
We may not know what's in your heart but it's obvious there is not much in your head! In fact, you're too stupid to realize that your comments ARE racist, your protestations to the contrary. You should learn to keep your ideas to yourself if you don't want to appear to be what you appear to be.
Let me guess. You're not a racist and you're VERY proud of it. To be white and so touchy about race. Well it's about time! A suggestion though, if I may... take a valium.
shareOne more example of how dumb you are! I'm neither white nor black and for you to believe you can discern my race (as if it was even germane) from my comments shows you to be shallow, non-discerning and just plain defensive. And your suggestion about valium......really, is that the best you can do? The harshest criticism I can make about you is you don't even have an adequate sense of humor.
share"I'm neither white nor black"
Maybe not, but one thing's for sure, you sure are stupid!
Your race was not even the point of my reply. It was that you're so damn proud that you're not a racist! Well golly gee wow, congratulations! Are you happy now? Now can you please get off your "I'm not a racist and proud of it" high horse, and answer the question?
A white jew artist boyfriend makes perfect sense. Saldanas character wanted a 'refuge' away from her criminal family and assassin lifestyle.
She wasn't 'evil' just consumed with revenge. So she didn't really have much in common with her fellow male assassins. Although still hard to believe she'd choose such a guy, given her stabbing of that bad guy when she was nine, clearly she was always a badass. But at least they gave him tattoos and his art was semi respectable. (none of that post-modernist crap) Although again he did seem a little too friendly with the FBI hopefully he just gave them all lies and was only pretending cooperation.
They went with the "you're a racist" thing because of that question were reversed (ie why did they make the white woman's boyfriend white instead of black), folks like you would be on here screaming racism. That's why. You can't have it both ways.
shareNah, for one thing I don't "scream racism", secondly, if they would have provided a valid reason, like I did, for their inquiry, I would not have had any problem with that.
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