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Why did they break up??? Estefania and Amadeu


I must have missed it, but I was watching this movie and was just surprised that they just decided to break up after they just drove to Spain.

The girl mentioned some obscure, over-generalized reason along the lines of "I'm not who you're looking for..."..... or some similar crap that people use when they just no longer want to be with somebody -- but they just started their relationship at that point.

Was I the only one who didn't get it? Maybe it was explained better in the book, coz the movie sure just glossed over it. Anybody please explain...??

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In the book, she said he only wanted to go to Brazil for himself, that it had nothing to do with her. That it would have been a trip to the inner depths of his soul. She says something similar in the movie too.

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Yes, she said that she didn't want to go to Brazil. She felt like going so far away wasn't in her life's plan. Since they already made it and got out of their country dictatorship she was already ok but he was not. He wanted to go further. He said he would spend his life writing books - in the beginning we learn by his sister that before studying medicine his truly wish was to be a philosopher and a writer - and also said they would go to "a world where only you and I exist" and "invent a language that only you and I understand". This was the moment she started crying and realizing that they were not meant to be together. He was idealizing his dream, not their dream. Remind that their passion resulted of that stressful, exciting and danger life they were having in the Resistance. As you said, they just started their relationship so that was the moment where they were knowing themselves and each other passions, dreams and thoughts. So she said he was asking for "more than I can ever give you" which means that she could give him her love but she could never give him her own life. Well, at least this is my interpretation.

I understand some confusion tho. I can agree that the scene was not very well explored cinematographically. They could dramatize a bit more. For a break-up scene in a key moment the segment is too summarized.

But, well, basically they had different dreams and views about life, philosophically speaking. He was a meditator, a metaphysical and a poetic man and she was a practical, reasonable and a pragmatic woman.

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Very good point.
And it was certainly not explained in the film although, as you say, the thirty seconds conversation was supposed to make it all plausible..

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It kinda reflects part of the portuguese spirit actually. Not the "they lived happily ever after" end, the bittersweet memories, the sad melancholy, the hope.

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SPOILER: The break-up did seem abrupt and somewhat contrived, almost as if someone (a producer?) feared the movie going longer. On another level, though, Amadeu was a man of ideas and internalized passions who looked beneath the surface of things, thus his power as a poet; Estefania was a pragmatist who memorized facts extraordinarily well without ever really thinking about them beyond their usefulness, thus her part in the revolution without the expected rhetoric.

There was a parallel between the two couples: Estefania amd Raimond were both professors, whereas Mariana and Amadeu, though both professionals, were governed by emotions. The two worlds are not necessarily exclusive, as Raimond seems to learn in the end as he apparently does not board the train back to Bern and instead responds to Marian's request for him to stay with her. It is almost as if he instinctively has explored the other couple's failure as a last-second wake-up call for his own fulfillment in a relationship.

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I tend to agree, a summer fling in a time of great peril & fears.
But I really understood what the young woman was saying. It was obvious that Amadeu was a man who really only cared for his own 'self', no one else's. Look how easily he abandons his devoted sister, there was no empathy for the human condition, for how she's sublimated her self for HIS needs. Of course, a brother is NOT responsible for a sister's choices, but there was no kindness in Amadeu. He even stole his best friend's girl, abruptly, and then 'labeled' it 'love', when it was, as you said, apparently just a summer fling.
I didn't like Amadeu, but I did like the 'tone' of the movie. I watched it in bed, on my notepad set in a stand while writing bullet-point notes on my other notepad.
I knew that with Irons in the movie I probably wouldn't like it, because he does these movies that are, well, I guess he thinks they are 'cerebral' but usually they are just boring. Sometimes when I'm wound up from my own writing (technology-related books on newer tech tools/software), I need something mindless to half-watch/half-listen to while unwinding. Usually it's an episode of NCIS or Criminal Minds (low iq fare, really) and this movie substituted for that, but surprisingly, after a while I set down the other notepad and watched the movie entirely. Somehow Irons looked 'younger' towards the end (I think those glasses suited him) and I liked that although his character was a fuddy-duddy boring teacher, the lovely eye doctor found him charming. I felt 'hopeful' for Iron's character (though I couldn't imagine myself finding him 'charming').
The End came and I turned off the notepad, then slept a deep sleep, which was my goal, after all. :)

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I thought Αmadeus' sister was way too obsessed with him. Yes, he shouldn't have left so abruptly, but I didn't see his relationship with his sister (or, rather, her relationship with him) as "healthy". Btw, if Amadeu only thought about himself he wouldn't have saved the life of The Butcher of Lisbon.

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