I like this movie, and I'm curious what people think happened in the end. Who the killer is, why they are doing it, etc etc. I have my own theories but I'm wondering what everyone else thinks.
I am not looking for smart remarks and whatnot, I know a lot of people dislike the movie and trash it..
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Well its obvious the killer is Nick, and at the end when that music producer said "the best thing you ever did was get rid of that band" kinda told us that Nick took his band out there to kill them and go solo. He also took all their songs they wrote and used them on his album, thats why he was so demanding of them to come up with new stuff so he could steal them.
As for whats going on with the shadowy figure in the coat and hat, i don't really know for sure, maybe Nick has a split personality and was shifting back and forth throughout the film. Then at the end he finally killed it after it had done the killings for him.
When Gotham is ashes... you have my permission to die. -Bane
That is exactly what I thought, originally. Then a friend pointed out that while some people are being killed Nick is with his friends. So it couldn't be him that was doing it, or at least not all of it. But he does have to have something to do with it as you pointed out with the songs and whatnot.
They mention his brother at some point, I don't know that they ever said specifically that he died or not, but it was implied. So my thought was what if its his brother thats out in the woods like that, and him and Nick are doing it together?
Really either theory is sort of possibly, but with the ending with the blood switching back and forth on Nick while he's playing confuses me on both theories.
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Remember Nick was always going off by himself, so anytime someone got killed his friends just assumed he was off by himself writing songs. Because it never really showed Nick with his friends at the exact time someone was killed. It might cut back to Nick with his band after a kill but that could easily be a later time during the day.
His brother died, i remember Nick saying he thinks about him all the time. So its not his brother thats doing the killings. Thats what i thought at first but if it was his brother it would have shown us.
The blood on Nick keeps disappearing and coming back because in reality he does have blood on him because he was the one doing the killings. Thats where the split personality side comes in, it was switching back and forth showing us how his girlfriend saw it and how he saw it in his mind.
When Gotham is ashes... you have my permission to die. -Bane
What about the part with the French girl? Her friend is killed and she comes running back to camp but Nick is clearly there with everyone else, unless that is just a goof. That one part is the only part to me that shows its possibly not Nick, but then makes the blood appearing/disappearing wrong. But basically everything you've said is what I thought until it was pointed out to me that Nick was with the rest of the group during that one kill.
I don't think they ever use the word "died" for Nick's brother, but its implied.
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Ok i just went back and watched it again, when the french girl comes running back to camp Nick is not there, he's no where in sight. Carlo and the blind guy take off running after the french girl is killed, then Carlo gets killed and then it cuts back to Nick's girlfriend and then we see Nick with her. He could have easily ran back to camp after he killed Carlo, cause the killer does quickly vanish right after the kill.
The killer has to be Nick, because at the end when that music producers says "thats the best thing you ever did was get rid of that band" Nick smiled with an evil smirk. Theres no way that the killer was his brother. I mean what would his brother be doing out in the middle of the woods dressed like someone from the 1920's? its just in Nick's head.
When Gotham is ashes... you have my permission to die. -Bane
You are right, he isn't there sitting with them. But when French girl gets hit over the head, you see Carlo and blind guy turn away...but standing in the back in black is Nick. So he can't hit french girl over the head and be in the background at the same time....thats why I'm confused. If it weren't for that scene, I'd say its all just Nick and the other guy is in his head.
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I think i can explain this. Its like in an episode of Dexter, in Dexter's mind he sees his deceased brother talking to him and in one episode his brother stabs someone with a pitchfork. See to Dexter it looked like his brother stabbed this guy, then it switched back to reality and Dexter was the one holding the pitchfork. So what i'm saying is in Nicks mind when he was killing the french girl, he saw himself with the group because to him he was someone else and Nick was not him.
Also ya i went back and looked closer at the moment you're talking about, and Nick is barely visible in the background, he's almost a blur. Now since Nick is the main character in the movie, isn't it odd it didn't show his reaction at all to what just happened? Its mainly because he's just an image in his own mind.
For his alternate personality Nick had to be there at camp. Then at the end Nick (in his own mind) sneaks up on his other personality and kills him and throws him in the lake. At least thats what makes most sense to me.
Its pretty obvious it you watch closely, when the killer is digging into Ashley's back it shows Nick in his place for a moment then switches back. Another example is when the killer has the recorder on the top of that rock, it switches to Nick holding the hammer when we see it from Ashley's point of view. So you see its all in Nicks head, he is the killer.
When Gotham is ashes... you have my permission to die. -Bane
When the french girl is killed, Nick's girlfriend, Ashley, sees the attacker as he hits the french girl from behind. If Nick is the killer, why would Ashley run off with him towards the end of the movie? Did Nick use a disguise when he did the killings? I, too, believe he was involved, but this part doesn't make sense to me.
shareTrue, I didn't think about that one either.
I agree, Nick is definitely A killer in the movie, but I'm thinking we are supposed to believe there's more then one. Also Nick tells the story of the Wendigo at the campfire...
As far as Nick going there with the purpose of killing the band members, nah, I don't think he did. I think he went crazy being up there and decided up there to kill them. This could be argued with the fact that right in the beginning he chopped up all the cell phones. But he seemed to get crazier and crazier as the rest of his friends didn't listen to him. All he wanted was to make a good record, and instead they wanted to party and have fun. It pissed him off cause he was all about the music.
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I believe ur absolutely correct .. Plus if u notice when nick swims up to Ashley.. She is whimpering saying please ..no..no... Which sounds to me like she knows he is the killer n is begging for her life
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