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Not depressing I would say but dull as ditchwater.

Yes it is the antithesis to a Hollywood blockbuster but it is pedestrian and not even that colorful or wonderful. The kind of film a buff may try to put deeper meanings onto but I can sum it up to save you some time


SPOILERS Dying old goat guy. New goat kid gets lost. Tree gets turned into charcoal. Hahahahaha.Rubbish!





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I agree with you woowickerwacker. I saw the film with two other foreign film lovers and we all felt it was dull. The problems we had with the film were......

The story line. If you want to “ talk” philosophy then talk about it. Like “My Dinner with Andre” for example. If you want to instead “show” it. Then my God, please show us more than this pap to explain such a heavy topic as the transmigration of souls. The screenwriter was just plain lazy.

The long “contemplate this” shots were too long and too often. I recognize that they are often necessary to set the mood (see “Meek’s Cutoff”) . But I also recognize when someone has a “short” that he’s trying to stretch into a feature length film.

Too much camera angle from high above the street. Could not hardly see the objects they were trying to show us (the dog, the little girl, etc.) And they used that repeatedly. Also, couldn’t we see the faces of some of the other people please? I became familiar with more faces of goats than people.

The advertisements said that it won the Best European Film category at Cannes. If that’s true then you guys in Europe need to eat meat more often.

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Good explanation, easypz. It was an excellent film for what it was set out to be.

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I sensed many of the same things you did, easypz, but I just don't think the film was successful. It is simply too long and slow and boring, especially the first sequence with the old man. He dies 40 minutes into the film, and I didn't care in the slightest; I had no emotional attachment to him whatsoever. That is a great failure in a film. Of course, the moment when they closed the tomb and cut to the baby goat being born, that was a great moment, the first inkling that this film might actually have something to say, but those moments were too infrequent, not enough to sustain an 88-minute story.

They are making a lot of these minimalist films in Latin America now, too, especially in Argentina, so this type of film has no novelty for me. The most unbearably dull attempt in this trend is the Argentine film Liverpool:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1002539/

I thought Terrence Malick's The Tree of Life was a far better example of great, poetic, contemplative moviemaking.

Also the quietly symbolic, heartbreaking film Veronico Cruz:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0092880/

And the unbelievably beautiful Nostos: Il Ritorno:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0100271/
(with even less dialogue than Quattro Volte!)

My point is that artistic, philosophical, subtle or quiet films don't have to be boring. But choosing the appropriate length is just as important as choosing an actor or a camera angle. If you have a 30-minute story, make a 30-minute film.






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That is probably the biggest pile of cack I have ever read on these boards. Talk about making a mountain out a molehill.

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I sort of agree.

Towards the end I was wondering - apparently all it takes in this day and age (and place, being the European intellectual cinemascape) to win prizes and a >7 IMDB rating is a high-def camera, tripod and a random backwater european village to film a disjointed series of still shots in.

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I like slow and meditative films as much as anyone (I love Terrence Malick's work) but this movie was beyond dull.

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Only boring for the easily bored. Obviously not your kind of movie.

In a wonderful piece for Sight & Sound magazine, Jonathan Romney quotes Frammartino’s suggestion that Le Quattro Volte is about animism and the transmigration of souls:



“The film is based on the ideas of animism and reincarnation, and Calabria is very much a animist region. Pythagoras supposedly said that each of us holds within us four successive lives, each one enmeshed in the others. Man is made of mineral, because he has a skeleton; he’s a plant because he has blood flowing through his veins like sap; he’s an animal, because he has morbidity; and he’s also a rational being. So in order to understand himself, man has to understand himself four times’” – Sight & Sound Vol 21, Issue 6, pp. 44

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Duller than ditchwater. I agree.

Unfortunately, like the main character in this movie, most aspects of Italian culture have turned from being a vibrant, effervescent, exuberant, colorful flower to being a withered, tired old man picking olives (or herding goats) and awaiting death. Accordingly, whenever I watch an Italian movie I feel as if the director is saying 'I have nothing to prove'. This is in stark contrast to movies being produced in other countries in our time. The movie is extremely listless. It lacks interest and it lacks energy. The sense of active, directed effort is altogether missing. That is really disappointing. I don't mind seeing 'pretentious' movies but I do expect them to be executed with skill. If a man can make a bolognese sauce it doesn't mean he is a chef. A clove of garlic grown in Italian soil is not better simply because it is Italian. A restaurant couldn't take such things for granted, and neither can a movie director. The majority of scenes in this movie are overexposed, perhaps just to make the movie drag on for longer. Unfortunately most of the scenes are very uninteresting indeed.

If I ever had a chance to speak to the director I would point out that the art of photography is different from the art of cinematography. In photographic art, the viewer contemplates the angle and separates foreground items from background. But shooting a film, you need to show dynamism -a sense of movement. Grains swaying in the breeze simply don't cut it. I'm afraid I have to give this movie a thumbs-down. A big waste of time.

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It seems a large number of people are disinterested in Le Quattro Volte due to the slow pace. I felt the unbreakable focus of the visuals, if you let yourself, becomes transfixing due to its theme of the cycle of life. Watching the scenes at this pace connects with the theme.

"I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not".

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