this film is VERY bad


it's not even 'funny' bad, just made badly.
if this is the new 'cult' material... it's just sad.
how much did they pay poor Rutger to play in this?
i could understand if at least it had a low rating... (5/10)



reply

It really sucks. I've played video games with better stories.

reply

"I've played video games with better stories."

It's called 'Hobo with a Shotgun'. You were expecting a good story?

"Time to find out..."

reply

lol. I didn't expect much considering it is based on a fake grindhouse trailer.

Sure, i didn't expect all the children and babies being killed, and that one kid obviously was going to be raped, and it wasn't fun to watch those parts, but I got the message. It reminds me of the film Super, which I believe the advertising tricked me into watching something way more gory and violent than I thought. Though I think now Hobo with a Shotgun is probably the most disturbing film I have ever seen. Gotta add it to my list.

reply

Doesn't really mean anything. There are lots of video games with good stories.



I'm the grim reaper, Lardass, and you're my next customer.

reply

No way man! This movie is great. Its supposed to be crappy. Its homage to those Grindhouse films back in the day. ITs supposed to have a bad story.

reply

^ and the movie is supposed to look badly made with cheesy and fake looking special effects, seems like some people are missing the point.


"Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man." The Dude.

reply

Exactly brother! Thank you.

reply

[deleted]

The problem is that most people complaining about this movie should not have watched it in the first place. They were misguided by some completely senseless comparising this movie to "Planet Terror" or "Machete". They expected flick of such kind, so I completely understand they may be disappointed. If I had to compare it to something I would compare it to "Braindead".

*beep* it, Dude, let's go bowling" Walter Sobchak

reply

I loved Jackson's Brain Dead (Dead Alive)but in my opinion Hobo With A Shotgun made Brain Dead look like Saving Private Ryan by comparison.

reply

Um...Machete was a fake grindhouse trailer as well, so we should all be very comfortable in comparing the two.

Machete was cheesy, badly acted, but still great fun.

Hobo was uninspired and tragically lame. The bad guys looked more like Future Biff and his gang from Back To The Future 2. Shame, cos I had high hopes for some b-movie fun like Bad Taste or Braindead.

reply

The problem is that most people complaining about this movie should not have watched it in the first place. They were misguided by some completely senseless comparising this movie to "Planet Terror" or "Machete". They expected flick of such kind, so I completely understand they may be disappointed. If I had to compare it to something I would compare it to "Braindead".


I'm one of those i really expected it too be a lot like planet terror (which I Loved) but I didn't like this one at all.



When there's no more room in hell, The dead will walk the earth...

reply

"it's supposed to be crappy" is such a weak cop-out.

reply

Yeah, also "intentionally bad" is completely missing the point. Bad movies are only funny/cult because they try to be good but fail.

reply

Gotta laugh at these kids who think they know it all..

Ever hear of Troma?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Vt5G3sC7aI

Thats what this movie is about... not failing at being good by being bad, but winning at being bad by being bad.

Long live the Toxic Avenger... rofl..

http://www.imdb.com/company/co0019150/



-- Do unto others before they do unto you.

reply

Agreed

TROMA RULES!!!!

Poultrygeist, Class of Nuke 'em High, Toxic Avenger, Sqt Kabukiman All Classics... I could go on for hours.

LONG LIVE LLOYD KAUFMAN!!!

"We're together again" -Duane Bradley

reply

"It's supposed to suck! That's what makes it brilliant!"

LOL.

reply

i agree. they can't make anything watchable so they make a POS and wave the "Campy on Purpose" flag. everyone involved in this abortion should have their SAG card revoked. lol!

reply

How so? It is what it says on the label and you picked it up anyway and now you're complaining that it is exactly what it said it was. That's like eating carrots and complaining that they taste carroty.

reply

Erm...no a movie is never supposed to have a bad story or a bad script...why would anyone make a movie like that for, you fool? Granted it does not need to make sense or its supposed to be cheesy but not bad with intention that is just poor direction and casting etc this movie is just a knightmare of a movie, i loved the tarantino b movies etc but this director is a turd in comparison, try not to love a movie coz your friends do or its cool to like it
I have detailed files on Human Anatomy

reply

It's supposed to be an emulation of the grindhouse movies of the 70s and 80s. I've seen some classic grindhouse movies, and when it comes down to that, Jason Eisner did a better job then both Robert Rodriguez and Quentin Tarantino. The smaller scale, over-the-top acting, lack of CGI, all he needed to do was shoot it on dingy 16mm film and it would have been a perfect emulation!

reply

[deleted]

Just started watching and couldn't get past 30 minutes. Disappointed as I am a big fan of Grinhouse and Tarantino; this had no class

reply

Really? I thought it had plenty of class man. But to each their own I guess.

reply

agree - most entertaining flick I've seen in a while. I get exactly where its coming from. Its like a troma film in style, but somewhat different too, in that is watchable. And not sh1 t.

The Plague were superb characters - the hospital massacre scene simply genius.

Some might say the bus bit went too far - but in the context of the movie - and if you have a sense of humour - then its fine.

And I am a parent too.

Far better than deathproof - and the correct running time too - where both machete and planet terror fail.

reply

The film was what it was, without caring for what people thought. It was a story about a Hobo with a shotgun and a moral conscience placed in an incredibly messed up world that led him to take extreme action.

I think the extremely bad crimes and acts that were committed by Drake and his followers were both entertaining graphic violence as well as relevant to why the Hobo took the action he did.

*SPOILERS* On several occasions, including the scenes where the guy in the manhole cover has his head ripped off, the scene with Abby having her neck sawn into, and when Drake feeds her hand into the lawnmower blade I was pleasantly surprised that we got to see it in full effect. I'm really tired of either miraculous saves by a hero just in time or gutless cut-aways by the camera to keep censors pleased. *SPOILERS*

This was one of those films I hoped would deliver uncut violence with an extreme angle and it delivered.

Really enjoyed it.

reply

I agree, and since I cared about her character, it made the last two scenes you mentioned extremely effective in my opinion.

R.I.P. Heath Ledger
1979 - 2008

reply

You either get it or you don't, it's as simple as that. I found this movie hilarious. If you're a fan of Planet Terror you'll most likely appreciate this film and if you don't like it that's okay too. Lets all hug.

reply

yea, that's what I mean.
Definitely not cult material.
Sam Raimi for example, could have made it work..

reply

The lot in here that come has come with such arguments like "This movie is supposed to look cheap" are dead wrong themselves. No it's not supposed to look cheap, IT is a low budget flick. And they did the very best they could with the budget they had, and I applaud them not to resort to cheap CGI blood just because it would cost a lot less.

And for the fella who played videogames with better storylines, videogames are not getting inferior scripts as opposed to movies, I mean some writers dabble in both mediums, do they purposely deliver bad scrpts to videogames? It's narrative where videogames seem to be lacking behind, not storylines.

reply

I think this was way more Grindhouse than what Tarantino put out in regards to DEATH PROOF, which was way too long, way too talky, and just absolutely boring.

HOBO is exactly the kind stuff that came out of the 70's and 80's with low budget cinema. It pretty much capture the essence to the last frame.

People are entitled to their own opinions, but those who says this isn't GRINDHOUSE don't really know true GRINDHOUSE. Sorry to burst your bubble, but if you think a $97,000,000 movie, like GRINDHOUSE is real GRINDHOUSE... HA HA HA HA

It took RR and QT almost a $100,000,000 to capture what GH filmmakers did on a few thousand, maybe $100,000 tops. Why, because both felt it necessary to add in CGI (Not from GH days), Helicopter stunts (again not from GH days) and other stuff that was never present in terms of GH films.

RR's Planet Terror is clearly the better of the two films. QT's is just boring when Kurt Russell is not on screen, and honestly could have been summed up in 60 minutes, like a majority of true GH flicks were back in the day.

HOBO, captured every essence of the GH vibe, feel and color scheme. Not too mention the filmmaker gave a list of films that inspired HOBO, and he delivered on just about everyone of them... so again, pls do not say this isn't GH cinema... while it is newer age GH, it is still GH.

________
"Deadlands 2: Trapped" http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1103262/

reply

I read as far as your post, thought, "this guy is exactly right." All I'll say is that: 1, this and Black Dynamite are the best grindhouse-like films that have come out in years; and 2, why is there another two pags after this post?

Time to blow

reply

I read your post and you know what? You got it to a T! That is exactly right. RR and QT spent $97mil making "Grindhouse" and what did we get? A big budget FX bomb and a boring, slow-paced road/revenge movie, the only attempt to make it look cheap being the adding of all the "Film" scratches and crap, and even that's ruined when on the Blu-ray they include a pristine version of the film to go with it. Jason Eisner had only $7mil, no CG, or big stunt work, the red-yellowish tint to the movie, the only big(ish, well notable, at least) name being Rutger Hauer. The opening credits scene in particular was perfect, it was more authentic to the grindhouse genre, then every moment in "Death Proof" or "Planet Terror" put together.

reply

I thought this was better than any of Rodriguez/Tarantino's Grindhouse movies.

What do you mean, "I don't believe in God"?

I talk to him every day.

reply

bwahahaha. what kind of class were you expecting by a movie titled "hobo with a shotgun"

This movie *beep* rocked. Anyone who disagrees is stupid.

reply

[deleted]

That's the idea! In the old days you didn't go to the grindhouse cinemas for classy films, you went to them to see excessive gore, sex and language, with a thin story to tie all the scenes of gore, sex and language together. And this movie did a better job of it than "Planet Terror", "Death Proof" and "Machete", all it needed was to be shot on cheap 16mm film, rather than digitally, then you'd be able to take it back in time and pass it off as a grindhouse movie of the era.

reply

Here they go , the snobby clueless dorks and their idiotic responses on how a terribly $hitty movie is "supposed" to be terribly $hitty, my God what true idiots you guys are...
Once again for this hopeless dorks, even when you intentionally want to make a movie with a camp approach you still have to deal with the basic stuff that make movies good, if you write and direct an atrocious $hit with no redeeming value whatsoever that is what it remains.


"I'm a Hero Hunter, I hunt Heroes. Haven't found any yet."









reply

Well, I don't htink that the film makers of this went out to make Gone with the Wind. Have you ever seen a real Grindhouse film, and I don't mean the film of the same name, on the big screen? Did you ever live in that era? Did you ever see a exploitation film in an old-school theater and experience what that was all about? Or did you just hear of a movie title that someone told you about, like Cannibal Holocaust, and you went out and rented it and didn't see the big deal?!

reply

Watch more movies and come back with a critique. The movie looks *beep* but it doesn't make it *beep* (most 80's movies look *beep* nowadays, it doesn't mean they sucked). It's also not because it looks *beep* that people enjoy it.

reply

[deleted]

=Isn't about time we move away from these "it's so bad that it's good" movies? This movie was terrible, had no style, and even failed with its shock value violence.
This movie is bad, and the joke wasn't funny=


+1
missed the target.

oh and please, people, help getting this rated to less than 6/10 or something..
similar bad/worse cult films here get around 4-5/10, and they still remain cults.
all the fanboys can still like it.
it's just very misleading.

reply

Isn't about time we move away from these "it's so bad that it's good" movies?

Never!



Luxuriate in the eclectic...
http://www.eccentric-cinema.com

reply

[deleted]

These loonies are the same sort that get offended at movies like Postal and hate Ewe Boll for his thing.

And if it weren't for them screaming about how crap things are, less publicity would be achieved. It's a Win Win situation all around.

:)

-- Do unto others before they do unto you.

reply

Strongly disagree.
It was made just as it was supposed to be. And it's made perfectly, sometimes funny, sometimes shoking. Never boring.
Rutger likes acting in nonmainstream movies. This is one of his best roles.

reply

^strongly agree. People have lost sight of what real art cinema is. They are constantly bombarded by Hollywoods recycled bull$hit, that anything that doesn't follow a certain formula they are used to then they can't handle it. I can't fathom anyone expecting exactly what they got from this movie. Geez, it's called Hobo With a Shotgun! Sorry you mainstream directors you've known and come to love weren't behind the camera. This film is rated amongst the highest of films of this genera for a reason.


(K) eira

K (N) ightley

(O) rlando

(B) loom

Need I say more?

reply

Hobo With A Shotgun didn't look awful. To the contrary, it looked amazing. From the blown out technicolor presentation that had allowed for a deep color palette to the comic bookish stylized visual embellishments like the outfits for The Plague, you can tell a lot of care was put in to the visuals. And it made everything that much better because this is probably the best looking exploitation film ever made. Were the gore effects amazing? They were as close as you could expect, and it was nice to see a return to physical effects over CGI.

Basically, this movie is going to have a limited audience. If you don't like '70s/'80s trash action films like Rolling Thunder, the Death Wish sequels, or Class of 1984, this probably isn't going to entertain you. The people who praise Grindhouse and attack this aren't the audience this was intended for. Grindhouse wasn't a tribute to exploitation films despite the directors claims, it was sending them up using modern filmmaking techniques. Death Proof specifically set out to subvert the misogynistic overtones of the slasher genre by turning Stuntman Mike into a coward who literally got off on murdering women. Tarantino likes exploitation films but he's too self-conscious a director to ever fully embrace the genre and all the grime and nastiness associated with it. And Rodriguez seems to have no concept of it given how far off the tracks his portion went, which is sad because the first half of Planet Terror is almost pitch-perfect before it devolves into a dumb modern day action film.

Really, movies like this and The Taint are as close as modern filmmakers can get to the exploitation genre. Because they are exploitation films. You can't make a big budget exploitation film. It doesn't work. It loses part of the charm of the low budget trash film and all the unintentional faults that come with it. The biggest praise I can give to Hobo With A Shotgun is that the movie looks like it could've played on a double bill with The Exterminator 2 in some scuzzy "theater" on 42nd street during the early to mid '80s.

reply

Before watching it I thought the movie would be like Machete and Grindhouse, but it reminded me more of Japanese flicks like Machine Girl and Tokyo Gore Police (the gore effects, and random samurai dudes appearing out of nowhere half way through?!?). It also has the same manic style as Running Scared (2006).

reply

Unless you have to, why would you make an exploitation movie now, when you could spend the same amount of money making a quality film with a real story and good actors? Paul Thomas Anderson made "Hard 8/Sydney" for about $1.5 million and it was excellent. So why make some drive-in zombie/vampire p.o.s. instead? Probably because you suck as a filmmaker and lack imagination to begin with. Even the great Tarantino tried with "Death Proof," and ended up spending a lot of money and time to make a spectacularly boring drive-in movie.

"I can't keep doing this on my own. With these ... people."

reply

This movie was trash. Absolute trash...



<Generation "me" is an EPIC FAILURE>

reply

+1
I don't care if movie looks not-real or simplified or exaggerated. Normally I love all those rhetorical utilities that are used to make a movie stand out of normal Hollywood sh**. But if - while watching - you get all the time a feeling "No don't do that! you will get hurt!" then it is just made badly. I mean if there is no situations where you can't think up what will happen next, then it is pure crap and considers viewer as an idiot.

Certainly I could imagine liking a lot Hobo With A Shotgun if this was ~first this kind of movie I'd ever seen. But no this wasn't first, not even close. It had NOTHING unique at all. Is it too much to ask, to make scenes look even a bit like they could physically happen in real world?

I give 1 point for good main part actor who looks just like one hobo I know (:D), and 1 point for the whore who wanted to change her life: = 2/10 and I don't easily give less than 4/10.

reply

that's my man ;)

reply

You missed the point of the movie. You naturally didn't like it because the movie isn't for you.

Yes, it's as simple as that.

Because at least in prison and at least in death, you know, I wouldn't be in *beep* Bruges.

reply

Coming from a guy who thinks Gullivers Travels was a great film. Your opinion doesn't mean much.


(K) eira

K (N) ightley

(O) rlando

(B) loom

Need I say more?

reply

Exactly! Hilarious amazing trash executed to perfection. Oh and don't forget the outstanding synth score at the end.

reply

Yep pretty bad movie... simply because you can't make a "so bad its good" movie intentionally, this is what this kind of directors can't seem to get.
You can't make a "cult" movie on purpose, you make a movie as good as you can
and then the audience will tell if its cult or not.
All those movies of decades past considered "so bad they're good" weren't make with a "pose" like this one, but were made, mostly, quick and cheap and quite often to cash in some successful genre of those years.
The hobo and the prostitute were played straight, the way everything should have played and be directed, the movie instantly fails once the over the top silly characters start to appear, also a very weak script didn't help at all(for any kind of movie, please don't answer me the "it's supposed to be weak" idiotic rebuttal...)
So what came out it's a so bad it's bad movie, with no redeeming value whatsoever.

"Welcome to Burger Shot mofückaaa !!!"

reply

You guys really don't understand this movie and its style. Go watch shaun of the dead or something, it is a lot easier to understand.

This movie was a masterpiece.

reply

[deleted]

That you CAN save the world with a shotgun.



-- Do unto others before they do unto you.

reply

"Except it isn't like the Grindhouse films. They weren't that excessive, and they were bad because they had bad directors with low budgets. They were bad because they ended up that way, not intentionally."


Sooooooooooo... people should hire established directors and give them massive budgets in order to pay homage to grindhouse cinema? You've obviously never been to Dartmouth, it's not Hollywood. And since IMDB doesn't list the budget I'd like to see how much you think it was made for.

reply

finally someone who talks with knowledge thanks for the comment Jordan.

reply

I'm less than a tank of gas away from Dartmouth, I speak from experience. Plus, I believe in judging movies on merits beyond just budgets so Spiderman 3 doesn't end up being considered classic cinema. Not ranking Hobo with Casablanca and Die Hard (I like variety), but even Coppola started under Corman. :D (and thank you for the compliment)

reply

i have to say i liked spidey 3 but that is just me due to growing up reading comics at 70s so it was a guilty pleasure seen them come to life on big screen with a big budget as seventies versions were outdated from the first day, only one i did not like was the captain america it felt flat but that could be just me???

reply