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Why are all the 'bad guys' black?


They could have at least thrown in a white guy or Asian or Hispanic.

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Why are all the 'bad guys' black?
All of the bad guys in the movie are not black. There is a white kid arrested in one scene. But to answer the racial aspect of your question, the population of Albany Georgia where the movie is portrayed and is filmed is 72% black. The crime rate here is terrible. Crimes by individuals represents the racial proportion of the city but gangs here are all black.

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Kota

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So your not only a crazy fundie nutjob your racist as well???

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facts are not racist, they just are and my reply was 100% factual...Courageous accurately represents the crime problem in Albany, Georgia where it was filmed and all of the bad guys in the film were not black - that's a fact! The corrupt cop was white....one of the drug dealers was white. One of the heroes of the movie was Hispanic for crying out loud. Only the gangs were all black and that is how it is here. So the OP trying to label this movie as some racial stereotype is just plain false.

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Kota

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Yet for a community you say is majority african american there was only one single african american cop on the entire sheriffs office???? and even then he had to move there so before him there was nothing but WHITE cops on the entire police force??????????

Ya that's not racist at all just make all the black guys criminals and all the white guys hero's who even when they do wrong get redeemed did they redeem any of the black criminals the same way they did the curropt cop????

How was the hispanic guy a hero???? he was just a poor guy that magicly happened apon the main cops yard and magicly had the same exact name as the guy who was suppost to be helping him so i guess all hispanic guys are named javy now???????

This movie was horrible at best and had a very racist tone and was extremely disrespectful of single mothers many of um i know who bust there a$$ just as much as any father yet who does the black cop give credit to after admitting his father bailed on him????? some random guy that lived on his street rather then his own mother who i'm more then sure busted her a$$ in fact he never even says he's thankful for his mother he doesn't even invite her to the caramony at the end just the random religious guy that lived on his street guys random religious guys are more importaint then single mothers who often times work 2 or 3 jobs just a give there kids something.

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You obviously did not watch the movie.

In the sheriff's office (which is a County office, not a city one btw) there was a black female deputy who teased Adam about "being in love" with the Sheriff. And of course there was Nathan who was one of the main characters. Yes the sheriff was white......but oh my, so is the actual DOCO Sheriff. What about the preacher that performed the "fatherhood ceremony"? Did you forget about him? He is a pastor in real life of the largest black Church in Albany. You think he would give his blessing to a movie he thought was racist in any way? Nope, Daniel Simmons would be the FIRST to criticize ANYHTHING racist about it.

And as I said, facts are a hard thing to agrue with. The corrupt cop was white. One of the two drug dealers busted was white. Only the gangs were all black....and that is exactly representative of Albany's crime ratios. Of the seven people arrested in the film, two were white, five were black. THAT is about how it is in Albany believe it or not.

You also obviously did not see the ending scene in the church sanctuary. You will see the audience in the auditorium is ABOUT 40% black BECAUSE Sherwood partnered with Albany's largest black church to make this movie.

Javy WAS the hero in the story. His faith was unshakable despite being beaten down over and over, he still gave his problems to God in prayer. Robert Amaya's performance in this role was amazing. Both he and one of the other 8 paid actors - TC Stallings (who played the bad guy and the gang leader) have both gone on to star in other Christian films as well.

I guess you believe like most of Hollywood that fathers' roles in families are not necessary. I guess you think that a major reason we have rampant crime problems and teen pregnancy and kids on the street has nothing at all to due with the fact that there isn't a father's involvement. Well the truth is it takes more than a single mom (or a single dad) to raise kids. It takes two. Yes one CAN do it, but it works better as God designed the family - with two parents. That's a fact. And there is nothing racist or wrong about pointing that fact out.

So stop with the racist accusations. Just admit you are a bigot yourself against anything Christian that proclaims the Gospel, especially in something as sacred to you Hollywood types as a movie. Was this movie an Oscar performance? Of course not. But as an entertaining flick, you can't argue with the numbers.

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Kota


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So one having 3 lines in this movie is your excuse for making a film in what you called a BLACK COMMUNITY in which there are only 3 black cops??? and one of which wasn't even from the area?????

Yet the curropt cop was redeemed and the main cop went out of his way to visit him and promise him he'd look after his son did he do that for the black kid in the back seat??? or the gang leader??? or the two guys that ran out of the house??? ummmmmm white criminal gets redeemed and gets favers black criminals get nothing ya that's not racist at all.

And your point there were african americans who were against MLK gasp there were evan african american slave owners not all african americans are against racism expecally if it means they get a that'a boy from the racist in there community.

No he wasn't you idiot the only hero's in the movie where the cops who SAVED THE LITTLE GIRL javy was just a regular guy struggling to find work theres nothing heroic about that.

Speaking of javy you don't find it the least bit racist that the only latino's in the film only spoke broken english as if all american latino's can't speak non broken english??? or that all latino males are named javy???? or that they all are good at building things????? thats called STEREO TYPING and it's EXTREMELY racist and bigoted they mind as well of had javy and his family wareing samboro's drinking tiquala and eating tacos.

Hate to tell you junior but crime rates and teenage pregnancy rates are at 1970's levels and are continuing to fall EVERY YEAR pretty soon they will be at 1960's levels also i'm pretty sure javy's kids would have been out on the street had he not MAGICLY stumbled apon a white cop who thought all latino males are named javy and javy and his wife were together so explain that one genius????

You do realize there were familys long before the christianity existed dont you?????? one doesn't have to be religious to be a good parent and certainly not christian this movie preached that all one needs is a father which is total BS one needs strong caring parents weather that be a single mother or a mother and father it makes no difference i know plenty of single mothers that are busting there a$$ to keep there kids afloat yet this movie and your beliefs say it isn't possible and gives them no credit what so ever nathon even ignored the fact that his SINGLE MOTHER was the one that raised him not some random religious guy who took pity on him.

Actually i can if your referring to the money it made meaning it was entertaining seeing how horrible movies like twillight make alot more money then great movies every year there for a movie making money isn't a test of it being a good movie are not crap movies make billions every year look at avator it made more money then just about every other movie ever made and it was just a rip off of pocahontis.




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The movie never claims that a single mother can't successfully raise children. It simply makes the point that a child is BETTER raised by both a mother and a father. Statistics bear that fact out. As divorce rates have climbed and more and more unmarried women have children, teen pregnancy has skyrocketed, drug abuse and crime are rampant, kids come home from school to an empty house so that leads to some joining gangs or running away. What we wind up with more and more children on the streets instead of at home under a parent's supervision because the single parent is having to work 14 hours a day to make ends meet. There is certainly a connection between the two.

I repeat again that DOES NOT MEAN it is not possible to raise a well adjusted kid as a single parent; nor does having a two parent family mean everything will be blissful. It just means that more often than not a child is better raised with two parents. Why is that so hard for you to understand?

And heroics are not all about rescuing a child from a gunman. I guarantee you that Javy's children and wife respect HIS DEVOTION to and trust in God and consider him a hero. That is just as heroic as anything that Adam or Nathan did as cops.

Regards,

Kota

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Yet the ONLY single mother situation brought up in the entire movie was the black cop who admitted he was raised by his MOTHER who he gave ZERO CREDIT to as if his mother was just sitting around doing nothing for him it was disrespectful to single mothers everywhere and not once in the movie did it say anywhere that a mother's just as importaint in a child's life as a father is.

You keep on repeating lies about crime and teen pregnancy being rampant yet crime and teen pregnancy are at 1980's LEVELS and have been falling since atleast 2000 and pretty soon are going to be at 1970's and 1960's levels so no teen pregnancy and crime are not rampant so please stop repeating lies look at the FBI's crime stats and find out for your self.

No stat's don't prove that a child is better off in a two person house hold all stat's say is that MORE children are in two parent house holds then those in single parent house holds so you can't compare them there's too wide of a difference in the numbers to fairly judge.

Your an idiot if you actually think going out and getting a job is as heroic as SAVING A CHILD from a predator guess in your little world a religious person with a job is as heroic as someone in the military unless there Islamic cause we all know christian's hate muslims.

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You didn't watch the movie, did you? There is MOST DEFINITELY a white unmarried mother in the movie. It would have been impossible to miss if you had been paying attention.






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Where did i say there wasn't a white unmarried mother in the movie???? and last time i checked they forced the idea that she needed her loser sperm doner who ran off rather then being able to do it by her self like MILLIONS of SINGLE MOTHERS do EVERY DAY.


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You keep on repeating lies about crime and teen pregnancy being rampant yet crime and teen pregnancy are at 1980's LEVELS and have been falling since atleast 2000 and pretty soon are going to be at 1970's and 1960's levels so no teen pregnancy and crime are not rampant so please stop repeating lies look at the FBI's crime stats and find out for your self.


Teen pregnancy and crime are both way up in Albany, where the film is set.

http://xfinity.comcast.net/slideshow/news-citieswherecrimesoaring/9/



Albany is literally the worst metro area to live in the whole country. 27.7% of people live BELOW the poverty line, and nearly 40% are in poverty. The only cities that even come close to these numbers are Reading, PA and Flint, Mi both of which have higher standards of living, more to do, and have winters which keep the insect population in check.

I have no idea why anyone would move to Albany. People can't move out because there's no money. It gets worse every day, to the point that the government is even closing down regional offices. For instance, the post office now operates out of Tallahassee even though they didn't even have the necessary machines . Even the section 8 housing, which is government subsidizing low income homes, has moved to Warner Robbins despite that Albany has by far the highest rate of section 8 homes.

I won't say that Albany is a literal hell, but it's where the devil walks his dog and isn't too particular about picking up afterwards.




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Crime rates for EVERY STATE as well as teen pregnancy rates are at pre 1980's levels when the total population was over a billion less people so no crime rates are not high on a state by state basis yes there are bad area's in every state but in all crime rates and teen pregnancy rates have been falling since 2000 and are soon going to be in mid 1970's level's.

This movie was also based in the state of Georgia where like every other state crime and teen pregnancy rates have fallen hugely every year since 2000 that's just a fact there's less criminals and pregnant teenagers then there have been since the 80's soon to be mid 70's.

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At the end of the movie, the black cop WAS mentoring the black gang member who prevented him from getting killed. Perhaps you were too busy looking for things to mock and didn't notice that scene.

This was an excellent movie with real solutions to family problems.

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You mean the very same black kid who he barely said 5 words to earilyer in the movie when he could have actually done some good???? tell me how that's the same as making the curropt white cop out to be a poor guy just trying to make a few extra bucks????

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We are supposed to assume that this was going to be a long term arrangement. People just love to find bigotry and hatred where none exists.

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Long term or short term why didn't he give any of the black criminals the same treatment??? did he talk to them and ask if they have any family he could look after???? did he do anything for the black criminals??? because he certainly did a lot for the corrupt cop who did a lot worse then some of the black criminals.

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The cop was a friend of his. Who would YOU spend the most time?

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Ah so your admitting the films saying WHITE cops who break the law should be treated better then black guys who break the law????
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No, I'm saying he spent more time with the white cop because they had been FRIENDS. What part of that didn't you understand? I never said anything about whites should be treated better than blacks. You obviously are just trying to stir the pot.

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Yet that's exactly what the movie said it said the white cop/criminal should be treated better and not vilified while failing to make the black criminals look like anything other then monsters no redeeming anything about them while redeeming the white cop that's saying white criminals should be treated differently then black criminals.

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Bye - you're now on my ignore list.

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AWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW someone can't stand the truth about there own bigotry and racism when confronted with it sad little boy go back to mommy.

BTW jesus sponsored PEDOPHILES including his own father joseph christians support pedophiles sick bastards.
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Well said Kota.
Also, I'd like to point out (spoiler alert!) the crooked cop? He was white.

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+1's all around for Kota, you seem to really know your facts.

Death... wow... you just like to pick fights don't you? I won't repeat Kota, he did a masterful job cornering you, but you need to quit trolling a perfectly good movie.

I would wager that all the Sherwood folks certainly did not purposely put all whites in main roles (which they didn't) You have three whites, a Hispanic and a black in main roles. The gangsters are black because, guess what, in a town with high crime levels such as Albany, and with such a high black population percentage, it stands to reason that there are going to be more black than whites in gangs, simply because there are more blacks than whites period. Secondly, we only see the one gang at the focal point. If you know anything about gangs, or hood society, or the ghetto, you know that blacks are very protective of each other, and they never, ever, EVER let a white or even Hispanic into their gang. That's how they roll. That's why blacks call each other *beep* brothers" but if a white calls a black a *beep* brother" they get a skull full of lead. Blacks don't accept whites, that's just how it goes.

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If you know anything about gangs, or hood society, or the ghetto, you know that blacks are very protective of each other, and they never, ever, EVER let a white or even Hispanic into their gang. That's how they roll. That's why blacks call each other *beep* brothers" but if a white calls a black a *beep* brother" they get a skull full of lead.


What? "If a white calls a black..."?

But anyways, the reason that white people can't say the n word is because it has a longstanding history of being used with hatred towards black people.

Blacks don't accept whites, that's just how it goes.


Wow. Just wow. Ever heard of the Albany Movement? There was this guy named Martin Luther King Jr. who came to Albany and started a movement.







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I know exactly what you mean. As a black women with a young black son I honestly get sick of all the bad black guys portrayed in films. During a scene with Nathan's family (a clean cut hardworking man with a nice home, wife and kids) my son commented that he liked to see black ppl on tv like THAT. People need to realize that the majority of black people are regular folks leading regular lives! Besides that i loved the movie...

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I think the Kendrick brothers did a great job representing that there are good and bad in every race. And the struggles of being a father. It is unfortunate that the way we view race. It's unfortunate for men like Nathan that people don't see more men like him because gang violence and crime in areas like Albany usually involve "minorities." And inside the "minority community" there hasn't been enough effort to change them. It's unfortunate that feeling like a victim often leads to unlawfulness, which leads to arrest, which leads to more feeling like a victim. Poverty also does not help. If we had or showed more people like Nathan and his family, maybe things would change. As Richard Sherman said, "we need to clean up our neighborhood, before we can clean up others or expect people to not think our neighborhood is dirty. If we don't clean it, we won't be viewed as clean."

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Why are all the bad people in "Selma" white? They couldn't throw in a Hispanic, Asian, Jew, Arab, Black guy? And if this movie is so racist and wrong, then why did the black people choose to play and accept money for that character? And in case you forgot or didn't watch, the crooked cop that got arrested was WHITE. One of the main cops was BLACK.

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There was a white thug who was arrested, plus the cop who ended up being corrupt.

Maybe in the area they filmed in, most of the criminal thugs happened to be black. That is the case in every area I've lived in though illegal aliens are also responsible for a lot of criminal activity in some parts of the nation.

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Just reflecting the real world.

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