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How on earth would you make money via ATM?

posted 13 years ago by JBoze313
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Logically, the story didn't make a whole lot of sense to me. Why would anyone go through so much violence for the limit of an ATM per day? I've no idea what limits ATMs have, but I always thought it was low- like $500 or less per day?? Even if you had 10 cards, that's only $5k, which is a tiny haul for such a detailed kidnapping complete with so much violence. The risk doesn't add up.

I kept thinking that throughout- these guys must be useless as criminals if this is their grand plan to make a ton of money.

[–] Jebus_Saves 13 years ago

Google the Wichita Massacre. Basically this exact scenario happened complete with multiple rapes and murders just for atm cash.

[–] mcgillmckinley 13 years ago

I wanted to thank you for pointing out the article on the Wichita Massacre. I am surprised that, me having been from Kansas and having lived in Kansas at that particular time, I had never heard about such a thing. Therefore, thanks to you, I looked up the article and learned something new.

[–] PAPICHOLO1 13 years ago

Most criminals aren't that smart in the first place,they were showing how dumb they really are.You seen what happend in the end result!!!

[–] horror_recidivist 13 years ago

You guys are missing the whole point of the ATM scenes... that isn't the end game for the criminals. The evening's activities are a set-up for the big payday in the morning (bank withdrawal). The ATM holdups are used as a device to loosen the victims up, so that they're more apt to comply with the final robbery.

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[–] oxblood 13 years ago

That was really stupid though. They could have just terrorized the family all night and then went to the bank in the morning rather than gone out for little $500 jaunts at ATMs. Not well-thought out. Plus the banks would have noticed the $500 withdrawals so they risk raising eyebrows when they send the father into the bank the next day for more money.

[–] Zhow 13 years ago

I don't think their moral values are as "standard" as those we share here. As the kidnapper said to the man in the car, he doesn't care whether they live or die. People's lives don't matter to him. He just wants the money. The rapist was the same but he has sadistic tendencies and he seemed to enjoy to inflict the pain.

In practice I understand it was very risky for the amount of cash they could have had. But according to them, it was just one way to get money.
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[–] mcgillmckinley 13 years ago

I have the feeling that it was not all about the $300-$500 jaunts at the ATMs. I think the main criminal's purpose was to see how far he could push the father into "saving" his family from any harm being done to them. After all, the main criminal leaves the mother and daughter with a sadistic person and at the same time, the main criminal never let it be known that he was not able to receive contact with anyone who was left back in the house. Remember the "Jaime, it's your wife...she would like to talk to you" statement when the police drove past on the opposite side of the street? And remember when the main criminal knowingly does not say anything about being around all night in order to, like one of the other posters stated, have a "maximum pay-out", if that was ever the case? I don't know. Maybe these were criminals who just got their rocks off by terrorizing families and having those families want to give away all the monetary possessions while hoping that the incident will cease soon enough or that the extortionists will move on soon enough.

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[–] SausagePourVous 12 years ago

How on earth would you make money via ATM? It´s the way you chose to create the sentence that makes it funny....but I would say that Ava Devine,Diamond Foxxx or Shyla Stylez has a good idea.There´s always money in ATM....

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[–] BlackDog123 12 years ago

I was thinking the same thing - there's a lot of risk involved in driving someone around to make multiple stops at different atms. How did the kidnapper know the father would cooperate to save the family? He could have run for it at any time, or started screaming, or flagged down that police car. He could have fought. ATMs have cameras too. Holding someone up to make one stop at the atm? Okay. Waiting for a few hours with an unrestrained victim to make multiple withdrawals? Idiotic. The kidnappers didn't seem to be cracked out or anything. So many opportunities for escape when it was obvious no one in that house would live.

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[–] TheSummer2012 12 years ago

I agree that the ATM thingy was a weak point in the plot but I take the point that these things have happened before.

[–] SataiDelen 12 years ago

Yes, he could have run for it at any time, however, when someone is in fear over something, they more often than not, will not run, or cry out for help, or anything. They either hope the person in control of them will be merciful, or that someone will see what is going on and help. IN situations such as these, it's amazing how often people will turn into sheep, and not fight. Thieves thrive on this.

[–] georgegates 12 years ago

well then perhaps rewatch it. I mean it isn't exactly confusing or hard to follow.

hint: Who were those guys? Did they have the safe combination? Did the director extend the movie to two hours with superfluous, repetitive scenes and rants?

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