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Blame the people who sacked Clarkson not Evans!


I'm no fan of Chris Evans and don't know if he'd been secretly after the Top Gear job for a while but it's the people who decided to sack Clarkson without sorting it out in house that are the people who ruined the show.














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Go punch your boss in the face & then ask them to 'sort it out'.....

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Go punch your boss in the face & then ask them to 'sort it out'.....







Clarkson had been told he might have cancer the day before so that's enough to put anyone on edge. also i bet the whole thing was blown out of proportion and it was very convenient for those at the BBC who wanted to get rid of him anyway.











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Clarkson had been told he might have cancer the day before so that's enough to put anyone on edge

I understand what you're saying but if it had gone to court that would not be considered a defence.


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Clarkson physically attacked someone.







People have kept their jobs for far less than what Clarkson's supposed to have done. Clarkson's made the BBC a lot of money and the idiots at the BEEB obviously thought they could just replace Clarkson and co just because the show used to have different presenters years ago. not realising that people watched the show specifically because of Clarkson.









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its funny when people say celebs should lose their jobs because i remember cheryl cole gettin in trouble for hittin a toilet attendent she didnt get thrown out the group she was in, steven gerrard a famous footballer and role model was caugt in some assault he still was allowed to play for the same team he wasnt sacked and he was more of a role model than clarkson, so why does one profession cause job loss and others dont? clarksons been doin top gear since 2000, yes he been a abit of hot water with the press, (no worse than than the next president saying he grabs pussies) but nonetheless i see a lack of logic in these issues.

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Oh come on. I liked Clarkson's Top Gear and think he's an extremely entertaining presenter, but the BBC had no choice but to fire him. I think even the man himself has said as much. He was already on very thin ice and had racked up quite a long list of misdemeanours, dating back over 10 years, any one of which could easily have seen someone fired in any other walk of life.

It wasn't part of some conspiracy to get Clarkson fired and to suggest so is just a bit cringe worthy. As we've seen, the BBC haven't exactly benefited from the change - what was once their most popular programme is now getting lower viewing figures than Portugal vs Hungary. However, if you punch a workmate you will get fired. Simple. Regardless of whether you're 'on edge'. It's hardly an example of PC-gone-mad.

It was a shame but it was always likely to end abruptly given Jezza's record. I found it quite amusing a few weeks a go when the Daily Fail ran a story about Chris Evans being rude to members of the TG production team, and the comment section was filled with Clarkson fanboys expressing faux outrage at Evans' alleged behaviour. I suppose if he'd just resorted to punching them in the face and calling them cúnts they'd have been ok with it.

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Oh come on. I liked Clarkson's Top Gear and think he's an extremely entertaining presenter, but the BBC had no choice but to fire him. I think even the man himself has said as much. He was already on very thin ice and had racked up quite a long list of misdemeanours, dating back over 10 years, any one of which could easily have seen someone fired in any other walk of life.

It wasn't part of some conspiracy to get Clarkson fired and to suggest so is just a bit cringe worthy. As we've seen, the BBC haven't exactly benefited from the change - what was once their most popular programme is now getting lower viewing figures than Portugal vs Hungary. However, if you punch a workmate you will get fired. Simple. Regardless of whether you're 'on edge'. It's hardly an example of PC-gone-mad.

It was a shame but it was always likely to end abruptly given Jezza's record. I found it quite amusing a few weeks a go when the Daily Fail ran a story about Chris Evans being rude to members of the TG production team, and the comment section was filled with Clarkson fanboys expressing faux outrage at Evans' alleged behaviour. I suppose if he'd just resorted to punching them in the face and calling them cúnts they'd have been ok with it.








It wouldn't surprise me one bit if it was a conspiracy to get rid of Clarkson. just because the programmme's viewing figures have gone down doesn't mean anything as i bet some people at the BBC didn't think the viewing figures would go down. and lower viewing figures with Evans might actually suit some people at the BBC who want a female presenter instead.

i bet the next presenter if the show continues will be female.


Clarkson's already said one of the producers had it in for him because he wasn't pc enough.








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You are just joking right? You do not actually think this way?

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You are just joking right? You do not actually think this way?







Not joking at all. what i say is perfectly feasible and I bet many other people think the same.








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You're either just looking for an argument or really, really stupid.

I knew there would be some ridiculous fanboys claiming Clarkson was unfairly fired. It's hilarious.

Your right to an opinion does not equal an opinion that is right

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You're either just looking for an argument or really, really stupid.

I knew there would be some ridiculous fanboys claiming Clarkson was unfairly fired. It's hilarious.











Laugh all you want. Again what i say is not only perfectly feasible but quite likely too. who dragged up that video of him saying "eeny meeny miny mo" for a start?

A video which was purposely dragged up to try and make him look bad and like a racist when in reality many people have said that when trying to decide between something. who also put that "slope" thing in the show? Even if it was Clarkson it wasn't exactly offensive [well at least to people who weren't looking to be offended]. there was actually slope on the bridge so if these things are enough to put someone on a warning .......then i'd hate to see what would happen if they'd actually been offensive. As i said I bet that punch was overblown and exaggerated anyway. I bet it was a really minor scuffle.











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The man punched someone. That is not a conspiracy, that is his own behavior. And it understandably got him fired.

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The man punched someone. That is not a conspiracy, that is his own behavior. And it understandably got him fired.







Just keep repeating the same thing over and over and people will believe it eh. i bet the whole thing was blown out of all proportion and it could have been sorted out easily without sacking him. Clarkson's already said some guy in particular had it in for him.








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Well said. From what I heard, Oisin Tymon actually headbutted Clarkson's fist and, as Clarkson winced on the floor in agony, Tymon rang up the BBC and spun this bullshít story about Clarkson punching him because he told him he couldn't get a steak in the middle of the night (which incidentally would be a perfectly reasonable reaction to receiving that news). But Clarkson wouldn't punch anyone! Good old cuddly Uncle Jezza.

The rest of the crew, jealous of Clarkson's manliness, were more than happy to go along with this conspiracy; they'd had it in for Clarkson for years. Probably didn't appreciate his daily racist/sexist/homophobic quips. You can't say anything these days, can you?

Forget the fact that Clarkson was actually the one who reported the incident and if he hadn't we'd probably have never heard about it. That's part of the conspiracy. I don't know why, but it is. He was probably held at gunpoint or something. Anyway, even if he did hit him, the guy was Irish! How many of us can honestly say we haven't felt the urge to punch an Irishman? But no, there'll always be these politically-correct hippies who have it in for people like Clarkson.

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Well said. From what I heard, Oisin Tymon actually headbutted Clarkson's fist and, as Clarkson winced on the floor in agony, Tymon rang up the BBC and spun this bullshít story about Clarkson punching him because he told him he couldn't get a steak in the middle of the night (which incidentally would be a perfectly reasonable reaction to receiving that news). But Clarkson wouldn't punch anyone! Good old cuddly Uncle Jezza.

The rest of the crew, jealous of Clarkson's manliness, were more than happy to go along with this conspiracy; they'd had it in for Clarkson for years. Probably didn't appreciate his daily racist/sexist/homophobic quips. You can't say anything these days, can you?

Forget the fact that Clarkson was actually the one who reported the incident and if he hadn't we'd probably have never heard about it. That's part of the conspiracy. I don't know why, but it is. He was probably held at gunpoint or something. Anyway, even if he did hit him, the guy was Irish! How many of us can honestly say we haven't felt the urge to punch an Irishman? But no, there'll always be these politically-correct hippies who have it in for people like Clarkson.










Nobody's saying Clarkson's perfect but you're obviously Mr or Mrs PC and you don't like Clarkson so nothing would probably convince you anyway.

the guy might be a bit stupid and hot headed at times but the way some people [like yourself] carry on you'd think he was this evil mass murderer or something







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Where have I done any of that? I like Clarkson. I just think the people [like yourself] who are trying to defend his actions/suggest his sacking was part of some sort of a conspiracy are delusional fúckwits who deserve to be ridiculed.

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Where have I done any of that? I like Clarkson. I just think the people [like yourself] who are trying to defend his actions/suggest his sacking was part of some sort of a conspiracy are delusional fúckwits who deserve to be ridiculed.







I'm highly sceptical that you really do like Clarkson. if you did like him you wouldn't have come up with the same old crap insinuating he's a sexist,homophobe and racist. which he's not.











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I was suggesting he's liable to making the odd sexist, homophobic or racist comment. Which he is. However my post was mocking the people blindly defending Clarkson, not Clarkson himself.

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I was suggesting he's liable to making the odd sexist, homophobic or racist comment. Which he is. However my post was mocking the people blindly defending Clarkson, not Clarkson himself.






Seemed like more than just that to me. i'm not convinced you really like Clarkson at all.














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OK. I don't really care what you think I think of Clarkson... why would I?

If my best mate got fired for behaving how Clarkson did, I would react the same way. It's a shame it ended like that but he only has himself to blame.

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OK. I don't really care what you think I think of Clarkson... why would I?

If my best mate got fired for behaving how Clarkson did, I would react the same way. It's a shame it ended like that but he only has himself to blame.







I'm not saying he wasn't to blame or partly to blame but as i keep pointing out people have kept their jobs for far more than what he did. they were looking for an excuse to get rid of him. i bet it was blown out of all proportion.














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The majority of people agree with your statements to some extent or completely.

However... they have given up on the show and left this forum long ago. The ones who are left are Chris fan boys and the rest are in denial.

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I can't say one way or the other, but the possibility is there. I also never saw the "offending" footage, but some people are not capable of non-linear thinking and can't imagine their "reality" being challenged. There's no arguing with them.

Whether it was set up to sack him or not, this current casting almost seems like a ploy to get people to tune out, so they'll have no choice but to bring back the old crew and boost ratings again out of "desperation". Surely that idiot Evans, couldn't have passed a focus group evaluation. I've only seen 5 min of him and that's enough to never watch again.

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to the person talkin about them wanting to give the job to a woman, if you did your research you'd know a woman hosted top gear before clarkson was even on it. her name was angela rippon.

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They had very much a choice and if u dont know that you dont understand how these things work.
It would be very easy for BBC to keep Jeremy, but the planned on lettig him go for a while and this was a good excuse. They *beep* uo :)

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I know that punching people isn't nice but we know that the kind of people who wanted Clarkson out are the kind of people who want to ignore the Brexit vote.
The fact is, many of these young people (as well as older rich business people) complaining simply didn't vote. They were texting or they were at Glastonbury, they were doing anything except vote.

It is this crowd who had it in for Clarkson. At best they saw him as a 'did he really say that?' kind of figure of 'guilty' fun which completely overlooked the point that he is a skilled broadcaster, very amiable with all his guests, natural. The left wing have weakened the resolve of the 'nobler' parts of the right wing. In doing so, the right wing is made to look like a caricature. But it was the left wing who were to blame for that, going right back to the 1920s/1930s in fact but accelerated during Blair's time in power. The left wing simply ignored the concerns of the centre and right. So now if you're not left wing and living in London you're a nobody. Which is catastrophic for an entire country, no matter how entertaining some left wing comedians may be.






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Although ironically, Clarkson was pro-Remain...

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With 18 months or so of hindsight, I still don't think Clarkson's sacking (although technically, it was a non-renewal of his contract) was motivated by some BBC conspiracy to get rid of him. Clarkson worked for the BBC for nearly 30 years, and he gave them plenty of opportunities to sack him during that time. But the BBC put up with Clarkson because, despite the occasional controversy, he was a very popular presenter, and popular presenters bring in the viewers. Even at the publicly-funded BBC, ratings are important.

The modern BBC is basically run by accountants, so when the BBC has a goldmine like Top Gear, which is sold around the world for millions, the accountants are going to love it, because under Clarkson, TG basically paid for itself. Which is to say that the BBC's outlay of licence-payers' money was more than recouped by international sales. Why would the BBC willingly slaughter a golden goose like that?

It's true that Danny Cohen, who was the BBC's ultra-PC controller of programmes at the time, was no fan of Clarkson, but Cohen also left the BBC under a cloud not long after Clarkson - and there were many in the BBC who were more happy to see the back of Cohen than Clarkson.

If there was a conspiracy against Clarkson, it was more likely at the Daily Mirror, which not only leaked the story about the "fracas" that ultimately led to the termination of Clarkson's contract (it was a full two weeks before the story appeared in the Mirror, so the BBC had obviously tried to keep a lid on it), but also the previous controversy about the (never broadcast) racist nursery rhyme footage that had put Clarkson in the last chance saloon. The Mirror has long has a vendetta against Clarkson for two reasons. Firstly, the Mirror is left-wing, whereas Clarkson is unashamedly right-wing and populist, and often says things that upsets their delicate sensibilities. Secondly, Clarkson has for a long time written for The Sun, the Mirror's biggest rival. So, the Mirror has always been unable to resist a good anti-Clarkson story.

Ultimately though, I still blame Clarkson himself, for ultimately giving his detractors - either at the BBC or in the left-leaning sector of the media - enough rope to hang him.

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Doesn't Richard Hammond write a column for the Daily Mirror?

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He certainly used to. Not sure if he still does.

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No one takes responsibility these days, and blame shifting has become the national sport. The only one to blame here is Clarkson- now go develop more hemorrhoids.

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No one takes responsibility these days, and blame shifting has become the national sport. The only one to blame here is Clarkson- now go develop more hemorrhoids.






It's the people who sacked Clarkson who are the main ones to blame. people have kept their jobs for far worse.









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So what? This particular situation is the one in front of us. If we're going to use that sort of logic then many people have been fired for no reason at all so then there should be no reason needed. Clarkson had displayed a pattern of this type of behavior, going further and further with it each time- at some point that has to end, and since he simply would not listen to reason the end was unlikely to be pretty. Think about it. Also he's not the Hamster- he's 6'5" or something and a man that size can do damage even at his age as power is the last thing to go.

Quit with the victim blaming and grow up!

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The annoying thing is that Clarkson apologised to the man, who accepted his apology, and actually reported the incident himself. The matter was closed, and the BBC not renewing Jeremy's contract was totally unnecessary.

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