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If you have been effected by any of the issues raised in this programme

posted 9 years ago by Gemma_Philips
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... Please see RT RTÉ page seven zero one.

I was effected by some issues in season 2 and by one issue in the first season, but in season 3 I have been effected by no issues raised.

One of the main issues is how the Paddys refer to going to England like they're just going up the road to another town. I would get it if they were in Ulster because they are British, but the Dubliners are are taking it for granted that they can just hop over to England like they have a right.

Eire is Independent, so why do they have this belief they can go to England whenever they want.

In episode one we hear Darren's main suspect for the shooting of his brother, Jimmy Byrne, has gone to London. Later we see Rosie going to London. Then Darren goes to London to be with Rosie, then Elmo tells his partner to tell people he has gone to England if anybody asks.

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Season 4

Now we have the Dentist Andrew saying, "I can go to England then declare myself bankrupt and I don't want to do that." What is it with this show making England out to be a place to sponge off if things get to much in Ireland?

[–] katjoeus 9 years ago

Ahem - because both countries are part of the EU and hence people can move around between them?? Live and work there etc. (if you intend to work, that is...)

[–] Gemma_Philips 9 years ago

I didn't think of the EU membership angle but it makes sense.

[–] skorkk 9 years ago

Are you actually being serious with this post?

[–] Gemma_Philips 9 years ago

Are you actually being serious with this post?

Yes, I have for a long time been baffled by people from Eire being on Welfare in the UK. People born in Eire seem to have the same rights as those born in Ulster. The ones born in Eire are housed in the UK too by the government. I also know people born in Dublin serving in the British Forces in Bosnia and Iraq. So seeing the characters speak like I say in the OP, and for the additional reasons I say here, I am truly baffled.

I did not think of the EU connection regarding the characters in this show, it explains the border access, but I would still like to understand why they seem to have the same rights as a British citizen.

[–] skorkk 9 years ago

Because Ireland and The UK are part of the Common Travel Area. Yes, Irish people can claim welfare in the UK, the same way that people from the UK can claim welfare in Ireland. In legal terms an Irish person is not considered a foreigner in the UK, and vice versa. British and Irish citizens can travel back and forth between the two countries as much as they please. Most airlines don't even require a passport, just some form of photo ID.

So when you say that the characters talk as if they're just going up the road to a different town, well it's not far off from that. It's takes less time to get from Dublin to London than it does to get from Dublin to Galway. You can fly from Dublin to Manchester in about 35-45 minutes.

It should also be noted that social welfare benefits are much higher in Ireland than in the UK. So if an Irish person did want to claim the dole it's unlikely they woulf choose The UK over Ireland to do so.

[–] Gemma_Philips 9 years ago

Thanks a lot skorkk this has cleared that up at last. I have asked Dubliners over the years when in their company and they couldn't tell me why. I've never met any unlikeable Irish so it's good to be in the know about this.

[–] ChardeeMacDennis86 7 years ago

This must be one of the dumbest, most ignorant posts I've ever read. I'd like my time back please OP.

[–] TwittingOnTrender 7 years ago

If you do a little research you'll find that, far from bleeding the benefits system dry (you can blame other minority groups for that, plus the British themselves), Irish immigrants practically built Britain.

It is no more difficult to travel back and forth between Dublin/Ireland and Britain than it is to travel from Ballymun to Bray (or Manchester to Preston). You don't even need a passport (and never have, even pre-EEC). You can travel on the ferry without any hassle whatsoever (the occasional look in your boot if you're driving) and even flying is straightforward - the airlines insist on photo ID and most SPECIFY a passport now, but it's nothing to do with borders. It's not much more difficult than getting on a bus.

While we're at it, do you know the Irish are stealing your TV for free? Plucking BBC and ITV right out of the air without so much as a by-your-leave.

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