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Have the person with the premonition die first. The protagonist can instead be a best friend or romantic partner and use other clues to figure out death's list.
shareThat won't work. Haven't you watched the second movie when Kimberly died at the end temporarily? The person who has the premonition who dies spares all the others from undergoing Death's wrath. That's why Kimberly went to kill herself as she knew that would stop everything (but went to gain the "new life" when the doctors brought her back so she can live peacefully too). If we were to have the premonition person die first in the next movie, nothing will happen to the others and the movie is basically over.
What? The person who had the premonition dying doesn't automatically spare the others, or else Clear would have been safe after Alex got clunked with a brick (as would Nathan after Sam died). It's the fact that Kimberly was brought back to life after dying that saved them. Being the person who had the vision had nothing to do with it.
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It's the fact that Kimberly was brought back to life after dying that saved them.Didn't she get canonically sucked into a woodchipper with Burke anyways? So even then, not so safe share
Depends on how canon you consider a newspaper article that didn't make the final cut of a sequel by different writers.
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That's not officially canon. That's only seen in the "Choose Your Fate" version of the Final Destination 3 DVD, and it made it's way to some TV versions of the movie like when it aired on TNT. I like that they incorporated a lot of those extra scenes that didn't make it to the final cut. It made the movie longer and frankly they just belonged there. The newspaper scene I would have left out. It's nice to have gotten closure on Kimberly and Burke, but not in that way! And Burke only went through the chipper because he was trying to save Kimberly.
shareUm I believe it does because I wasn't given the impression that that anyone else down the line who does that and comes back to life spare the others. The premonition person is the one having all the signs and is the reason everyone else got saved so I figured it was a bigger deal if they did it.
Plus, Kimberly WILLING went to kill herself. Alex didn't, so there's a big difference. If that doesn't mean anything Alex's death did spare Clear, and she simply ended up dying by mingling with Kimberly's freak accident situation and not Death even being after her. Nathan dying is also understandable since he took the life of a man who was going to die soon anyway so Sam living wouldn't have saved him.
The premonition person isn't the only one having signs - Clear sees the bus on the window in Paris and even says "Just because Kimberly is having these visions doesn't mean we're not all capable of seeing signs". I don't see how that is proof only the premonition person can do the death and revival thing, anyway. The reason it supposedly works is because Death claims its victim, but the victim resumes life anyway, which "invalidates the list and forces Death to start anew". Who that victim is is happenstance as long as they are next, which Kimberly was.
And Death was actively targeting Clear in 2, as we see with the surf board at Burke's house.
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The premonition person isn't the only one having signs - Clear sees the bus on the window in Paris and even says "Just because Kimberly is having these visions doesn't mean we're not all capable of seeing signs".
Signs is one thing, but actually SCREWING UP THE LIST so everyone gets a clean slate from dying quickly in a freak accident is another story. The premonition person seems to be the only one to have that ability since they're the special one out of everyone in the line-up.
I don't see how that is proof only the premonition person can do the death and revival thing, anyway. The reason it supposedly works is because Death claims its victim, but the victim resumes life anyway, which "invalidates the list and forces Death to start anew". Who that victim is is happenstance as long as they are next, which Kimberly was.
So are you saying if anyone else committed suicide and brought back that was not the premonitioner the slate would have bee wiped clean just as good?
And Death was actively targeting Clear in 2, as we see with the surf board at Burke's house.
That was one incident and not sufficient enough to say Death was still after her. Again, Clear was mingling in the high way accident situation and was bound to get struck when Death is trying to focus on other people and she's in the way trying to help them. I see it more as a revenge thing than Death still trying to get at her. But to each's own, we can agree-to-disagree on that. share
So are you saying if anyone else committed suicide and brought back that was not the premonitioner the slate would have bee wiped clean just as good?
Yes, why not? What you're saying, to be honest, doesn't make any sense to me. The premonition person is meant to die just as much as the others, so how does them dying screw up the list? That's what Death WANTS. In fact, Kimberly was the first one targeted in FD2, but Burke narrowly saved her. If she was hit by that semi along with her friends, are you saying the movie would have been over in 15 minutes? And if that's the case, why would Death target the premonition person at all?
That was one incident and not sufficient enough to say Death was still after her. Again, Clear was mingling in the high way accident situation and was bound to get struck when Death is trying to focus on other people and she's in the way trying to help them. I see it more as a revenge thing than Death still trying to get at her.
How often do people get impaled by surfboards indoors? That was Death targeting her. Also, Death having a time for everyone and controlling our fate is the entire point of the series. Death turned Burke's bullets into blanks so Eugene couldn't kill himself. George tried everything (hanging himself, suffocation, even slitting his wrists in a deleted scene), and couldn't kill himself either. If it's not your time, it's not your time. Clear's death being collateral damage, or "revenge", goes completely against that. That's now how Death works in these movies.
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Yes, why not? What you're saying, to be honest, doesn't make any sense to me.
It makes sense to me. You're not making sense. The premonition person is meant to die as much as the others, but they're the ones foreseeing this all happen, not anyone else. They're special, the others aren't. They're the ones getting the signs mostly and the senses and getting a better grasp at what is going on after they cheat death the first time to even tell everyone else what is up, the others aren't. Case closed. In fact, you bring up two characters who tried to kill themselves and couldn't that wasn't the one having the premonition and that gives more of an implication that suicide won't work with the others anyway. It wasn't their time to go and even if it was, it wouldn't do much because it was their time to go. This doesn't seem to be the case with the premonition person because they're special and can basically off themselves anytime they want. Kimberly realized this, which is why she went to did what she did. SHE had to die, not Burke or anyone else if they were still around.
In fact, Kimberly was the first one targeted in FD2, but Burke narrowly saved her. If she was hit by that semi along with her friends, are you saying the movie would have been over in 15 minutes?
Perhaps, but if Kimberly had to be willing to die in order to save everyone else then the others would have had to watch their backs and it would have been tricky since they wouldn't know the order since Kimberly would have only knew that.
And if that's the case, why would Death target the premonition person at all?
Because she avoided herself and others from getting in the while pile-up situation. She cheated death. Duh?
How often do people get impaled by surfboards indoors? That was Death targeting her.
How often do people get impaled by surfboards indoors? Doesn't matter. Other people can get impaled indoors by anything else it doesn't need to be a surfboard exactly so you really make no point with that to strengthen your view that Death was after Clear. Again, she was mingling in a situation she did not belong. I see it more of a "get out of the way" thing than Death still being after her. If that's not the case, then fine. That's how I see it. Alex is dead and Clear wasn't sure if she was really let off the hook. I'd like to think she was.
Also, Death having a time for everyone and controlling our fate is the entire point of the series. Death turned Burke's bullets into blanks so Eugene couldn't kill himself. George tried everything (hanging himself, suffocation, even slitting his wrists in a deleted scene), and couldn't kill himself either. If it's not your time, it's not your time. Clear's death being collateral damage, or "revenge", goes completely against that. That's now how Death works in these movies.
I don't see how Clear's death being collateral damage of revenge goes against anything. Your examples fail to prove that. Those people tried to kill themselves outside of what Death had planned. Clear didn't so there's no connection with that. I'm under the assumption Clear was let loose due to Alex's death and keeping herself safe for a while. Like you said, Death has a time for everyone so there's no reason for me not to believe Clear was let off the hook and could have lived her life free if she stayed safe and not mingled in the pile-up nonsense. Why did Death just HAD to still be coming after her like she was still on a list? share