So why did Molly die?


I saw this again last night and got really confused.

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Either Sam being alive at the wrong time created a death for her (not sure if it can work like that, but once she was on the plane, there was no going back) or she was always going to end up on the plane no matter what.

For the latter, I don't know why she still went to Paris, your guess is as good as mine, but part of me thinks that the mention of "180" on the bus was a hint that one of the survivors (Molly) would die on that flight, since all deaths have hints.

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Her death were always going to happen on the plain to France, I believe... That's why she wasn't killed on the bridge in the vision.

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Here's how it was explained to me. Molly only died (and died on Flight 180), because Sam survived the Bridge Collapse (who was never meant to survive) and saved her from Peter (who also wasn't meant to survive and days later tried to kill her). If Sam hadn't survived, Molly would have been the only one to survive, she would have lived out all her days safely because Peter would have died on the Bridge Collapse. But because Sam lived, and saved her from being killed by Peter (who had been saved from the Bridge Collapse by Sam), he (Sam) made Molly "cheat death," thus, inadvertently putting her on Death's List. After all, Tony Todd's character said "Death DOESN'T LIKE to be cheated."

I (kind of) understand that logic, however, I don't think the writers had to MAKE IT so complicated. First off, Molly only survived the Bridge Collapse in the premonition because Sam saved her. But he was unable to save the others, including himself. For all we know, Molly may have ALREADY been on Death's List. I mean, I know that's not how the writers made it, but the logic of her ALREADY being on Death's List also makes sense and is a lot less complicated... Molly was on the retreat and part of the Presage employees, just like the others. Molly was on the bus, just like the others. Molly was on the bridge while it was collapsing, just like the others. Why would Death want to "single Molly out?" The breakup may have affected things. However, there is one common denominator that all of the movies and novels have. All of the visionaries are generally the last to die in their premonition. As a result of their death in their premonitions, they come back to reality. It would make sense if Molly was supposed to die AFTER Sam. When Sam had his premonition, got Molly across the bridge, and when he died in his premonition, he came back to reality as all the visionaries do. If Molly was supposed to die AFTER Sam, then he wouldn't have SEEN Molly's death because he would've died before he COULD see it. So, it would make sense that Sam and the others just assumed that Molly wasn't meant to die. We could think of it as Death wanting to take Molly after Sam died because Death knew that Sam would do anything to save her if he were still alive when it was "her turn." So, what would Death do? Eliminate Sam for the equation FIRST, THEN take Molly.

The logic would still work on Flight 180 because Molly asked Sam if she could have the Window Seat. Once they switched seats, then Molly would of course move up on Death's List and die BEFORE Sam, instead of AFTER (but switching fates). Sam was bisected on the bridge, whereas Molly was bisected by the tail plane. To me, either way makes sense, but THIS way makes it a little less complicated if we went by the "Molly dies after Sam" logic.

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Or: since Sam's vision ends with his own death, Molly always was supposed to die during the bridge collapse, except that he wasn't around to see it.

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That's how I always took it. I took it to mean Molly would've been on the list, but we only saw her survive because Sam saved her, so she cheated Death, so she was screwed.

The characters in the films leap onto assumptions. Remember in FD2, they try to keep
the pregnant woman alive so the new life would give them a clean slate. They cling on to the assumption that the pregnant woman was on Death's list, because it gives them hope, and I think Peter clung onto the assumption that Molly wasn't on Death's list, so he has a chance.

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I don't think Molly was on the list. When her boyfriend survived, death swung back around and put him on flight 180. Molly had the unfortunate luck of deciding to go along.

Bludworth realizes what a hassle the death exchange loophole is and stops telling people about it.

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Molly was on Alex's list on the plane. she was always meant to die at that point in time. everyone on earth is on deaths list..there's nothing the characters can do to stop it...remember.."in death there are no accidents no coincidences no mishaps and no escapes"
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More or less this. I've always been under the impression that your choices dictate when you live/die up until a premonition happens (in which case death is out to get you). And.. they chose poorly

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She died because she was on flight 180 which is the same flight from the first movie (check sams ticket)

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She wasn't supposed to die on the bridge she was supposed to die on flight 180

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She chose to board a plane. That crashed. Literally wrong place, wrong time

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