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4.7 rating really ????Ok its some real racist none sense going on here


I always thought it was because you folk on this board just didn't flat out like Tyler Perry that his movies got all these failed ratings but you're definitely proving that you already have a predetermined mindset that all black movies are garbage.
4.7??? for the lowest I was expecting at least a rating of 6. You know damn well (assuming you actually saw the movie) that you laughed your a** off from beginning to end and the movie really did provide some insightful tips for women on how many operate.
The admin at Imdb need to look into the none sense going on this board not only is it doing an injustice to the producer's and the movie's reputation but it is also beginning to make this website seem like an unreliable source for reviews...and to those folks who're in the habit of giving a low rating to movies which are good perhaps you being non-black makes it difficult for you to understand and identify with our experiences you shouldn't be rating black movies #thatisall

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Ugh yeah right. There's no way to prove race within the ratings of this site. You only get the gender and the age group. Try being a woman, if you aren't already, and see a really good film and watch the ratings go down just because the film is gynocentric rather than phallic in orientation. You can tell because you can look at the gender ratings. Also, what makes you think that black people even liked this film or share your opinion of it? Insightful tips for women on how many operate...yeah o.k. Think like a Man...this title tells me a lot already. I simply can't think about what goes on in my crotch long enough to do that. I'd have to think with my genitals nearly 24-7 in order to 'think like a man' or I'd have to be a complete narcissist and totally phallic-centric to do that. Stick with comedies and others will stick with more interesting films that don't insult our intelligence.

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I gave TLAM an 8 because that's how much I enjoyed it. Most films with majority black casts seem to get low ratings here. It's a very silly and predictable trend on imdb.

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The Help's cast was mostly black and it got an 8. Yes I realize the lead was white but it was mostly a black oriented film. Also, I must say, I watch a lot of films and a good deal of black oriented films are stupid romantic comedies, have gang related violent content or are just plain stupid comedies. Granted a lot of folks black or white may like that sort of film, however, I don't. I'd love to see intelligent films with mostly a black cast but I don't like that above mentioned genre of films.

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Agreed tigerbos

I have mentioned the predictability of black films in earlier posts prior to the film's release, I believe to find engrossing stories that feature black people one would have to look to independent films

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My theory on The Help getting a much better rating is that,

1)The black people in the movie are maids, or in some way being oppressed. Yes, some of them were able to stand up for themselves but still a bit of non-fiction was thrown in as in Medgar Evers being shot and killed. So this type of depiction, as opposed to affluent, attractive African-Americans is more acceptable. The story is also told from a white person's perspective. I actually enjoyed "The Help" but it is a totally different genre of movie.

2) A little over 2,000 people have rated Think Like a Man, whereas almost 79,000 people rated The Help. The higher participation on The Help board goes a long way in difussing a minority of people who come on to sites like this and automatically rate it a 1, and without ever seeing the movie. If you ever read the user reviews on Yahoo Movies, you would have seen that people will rate and movie really low, throw out some racial epithets and even admit that they didn't waste their time or money seeing the movie.


And yes a lot of black oriented films are stupid romantic comedies, have gang violence, or are just stupid comedies, but you can say that about all movies.

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It's a black film about succssful black people. Of course its gonna get hated on.

Thats why movies like The Help, Boyz In The Hood, etc.. get high ratings, it's either a black movie about black people killing each other or black people struggling.

Who cares tho, Imdb is trash,Critics are useless. You think Black people really give a crap about critics or IMDB? no we continue to support our African American actors/actresses oblivious to the hate and blatant bias towards it.

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I agree with you completely. I like to come here to discuss the movie in reasonable ways and find out certain facts about the actors/writers/directors etc.

But every now and then I click on links like this to either put people on my list or "ignore" or try to "enlighten" some folks! lol



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I'm pretty sure that you are mentally retarded, so I'll try to be easy on you... This movie sucked. It had a lot to do with the cast (Kevin Hart is a minor character, but he's the only really funny one in the movie) and not because they're black. It's because they sucked. The script was dumb and repetitive (It was the same story told with different couples over and over and over and over) and it was another one of those dumb non-fiction to fiction adaptations... It doesn't work. I hated this movie. I gave it a 2. And the fact that you call it a "black movie" is insulting to black people. There are no white movies. There are no black movies. But there are movies made by people like Tyler Perry who only like to cast black actors in roles instead of being able to find some actual talent. That's racism even if you want to call it affirmative action or reverse racism. This movie sucked and so has almost every movie like it (Valentine's Day, New Year's Day, New York, I Love You, etc.). It's just a terrible formula combined with an incompetent monkey as a script-writer, and a cast that can't act at all with the awful material. Stop watching these movies. They are repulsive. And the reason Boys In the Hood was good was because it actually allowed the actors to do their job and act using realistic emotions.

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I highly disagree with your opinion, but I won't stoop down to your level by resorting to name calling (incompetent monkey as a script writer).

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@jnjones

No, the film didn't suck, and it was damn good,funny, and not predictable/pushing Christian values (nothing wrong with that, it's all in how you push them through a movie) a Tyler Perry movie. Oh,BTW,a lot of talented black actors wind up in Tyler's films because Hollywood basically ignores and passes over black actors most of the time when it comes to good roles (with the exception of proven box office stalwarts like Big Will, Freeman, and Denzel.) And it's nothing like the other movies you mentioned--I thought it was not only funny and realistic, but more importantly, it was a film for ADULTS. Problem is, you didn't get some of the cultural nuances of this film or the humor,seeing as it was written from a African-American perspective. Just because YOU didn't like it or find it funny,or understand the AA humor/POV it was coming from dosen't mean everybody else did, because it was still a box office hit that made $30 million dollars or more. Which basically proved that all that BS about white audiences not wanting to watch anything with black actors is bull****,period. It's Hollywood that believes that s***, not the average white moviegoer. So who cares what the hell you think, since it was successful. Also, Kevin Hart is one of the MAIN characters----he gets a good share of screentime throughout the movie, and is one of the funniest things about it. It was good to see him finally get his time to shine in a mainstream box office hit.

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I can't speak for all white people, but I liked this movie, but don't think it was fabulous. I don't know that I would rate it over a 5. I think that there were too many characters. Had they dropped a few and focused on the stronger story lines I think it would have done better. I really liked Taraji P. Henson and her friend's characters and their stories. I think had these been the main stories and the others not been so heavily featured it would have been better.

Also, why would I dislike this film because the characters were smart, educated, and successful? I am glad when I see non white characters portrayed in ways other than the "standard" thugs and low lives we see in so many films. That is so unrealistic. We live in a world where there are so many powerful, smart, educated, and successful African American people. Oprah Winfrey, Barack Obama, Maya Angelou, General Colin Powell, Clarence Thomas, Condeleezza Rice... the list could go on for days. It is so unrealistic to have Hollywood so often depict black people as gang members, singers, or sport players.

I resent that people would think this movie was scored low because of race. It had room for improvement and that is why it scored low. You can't tell me that the only people who have rated it are white people. There must be more than a few non whites who've scored it low, because if every African American who watched and rated it had given it a 5+ score the movie would probably be rated higher.

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What?, seriously, what the hell are you talking about?

So the only films around are comedies and gang related films?

What about horrers, thrillers, dramas, sci fi's, fantasies, documentaries, cartoons, anime and many crossbreeds of these genres. Most romantic comedies are crap regard less of race and gang related films are always full of black people because gangs are usually black.

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Um, maybe you were trying to reply to someone else. I'm not sure what you're getting at.

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I dunno, I didn't watch this film, not going to rate it. I'm a white man, and I've watched my share of black-led films. The reason why I don't like most of what some people might call "blacksploitation" films feature a mainly black cast is simply because they were not funny or insightful. "Who made the Potato Salad?" was the worst movie I have ever seen, its not funny or original, and I think I recall people enjoying that "film" it was horrible. Also most of these black-led films do not shy from the same stereotypes that appear in Hollywood mainstream films that contain the token black guy. Tyler Perry is terribly boring and overrated, and Steve Harvey is a bland hack. "Friday" is an example of a black-led film that really just makes everybody laugh, and its insightful and John Witherspoon and Chris Tucker are very talented comedians, they can sometimes carry movies on their own. There are plenty of good black films, and plenty of horrible black films. Its not about race in my judgement of these films. Sometimes black movies just aren't funny or entertaining, and let's be honest, there are plenty of bad and unfunny white movies, its just your taste. I don't like a lot of mainstream films especially today's choices. I would never dislike a movie solely based on the fact that its a "black" movie.

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I got one coming for you Tiger... Aspiring Screenwriter, I am!!! :)

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That's great. We could use some good screenwriters whose work is actually allowed to go from the page to the cineplex!

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If this movie had a white cast, it would be lucky to get a 4.8. Stupid romantic comedies get *beep* ratings on this site, white or black.

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Movies like this as well as the majority of romcoms aren't worth the effort...along with most films based on comic books and the majoirty of other high octane films.

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The Help.. you mean the move with all these down on there luck black people saved by a white girl .

The arc of history does not bend toward justice through capitulation cast as compromise.

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They were not 'saved' by a white girl. A white girl simply told their stories. Apparently you didn't read the book nor pay attention to the film...that is IF you saw it.

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lol the help is a racist story and it's told in a way that coddles white people. and that's from me paying attention.

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Yes there is racism in that story...that's what The Help is ABOUT so you didn't miss anything.

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The Help basically says that black people need white people to stand up for themselves, basic white savior story, and negates all the work that blacks have done for themselves to earn their rights. One underlying implication of a story like this is that whites allow blacks to have a voice.

The story of the Help really could have been told without Emma's character. However, without Emma's character, white audiences probably would not want to sit through it because it would seem "judgmental" towards the white characters. Her character allows whites to latch onto someone without feeling guilt.

There's also the fundamental issue of Octavia Spencer winning an Oscar, the exact same award mind you, for playing the same role that Hattie McDaniel played - Southern black maid - when she was the first African American to win an Oscar (and well, most if not all African Americans winning for portraying some stereotype but that's another issue). And the fact that an actress as decorated and outstanding as Viola Davis finally gets recognition (well she did also for Doubt, which she was better in imo, but not nearly as much as this role got her) for playing a Southern maid out of all the characters she has created.

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Did you even read the book or watch this film or not? The Help did NOT 'basically say' that black people need white people to stand up for themselves...this sounds like the same crap MRA's dish out women needed men to give them the rights they deserved to begin with.
I read this book. I suppose you didn't know that the author of this book is a white female and told the story about her own maid towards the end of the book. The meaning of this book is to show how black people raised white people and did a damn good job of it and those same white people more than likely would become racist to begin with. Why exactly are contemporary white people supposed to feel guilt? I think it's hilarious that white people cannot show any empathy or strong positive feelings towards anyone who is black simply because they like that person without being accused of having 'white guilt'. I don't feel guilty that my ancestors did what they did; I DO however, feel sorry that they did it. Heaven forbid I like a black person for them just being a person.
The whole book was ABOUT MAIDS which is what a lot of black people were. This has nothing to do with stereotyping. Just about every woman in Hollywood has played a hooker at one point and every western shows women as prostitutes or nothing more than a married woman waiting on her man to show up. None of this has anything to do with PERFORMANCE which is what the Oscars are SUPPOSED TO BE ABOUT regardless of how the politics of the whole 'show' is.

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The Help, another movie that puts back in time of black people overcoming white opression.

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The white racists were the bad people while the white lead was not racist. Black servants are devoted to white kids more than their own. Black home life is broken.

For those who like to think that racism=bad person, check out Jay Smooth excellent speech about why we should stop comparing racism to goodness as a person and start comparing it to cleanliness.
http://www.illdoctrine.com/2011/11/my_tedx_talk_how_i_stopped_wor.html

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If you white people can make movies like Jackass and call it comedy and get good ratings on Imdb and come here rate this movie a 1 and give it all the harsh criticisms you give it, then I'm just going to say eff you all, thank you.

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The reason behind the success of "The Help" was cuz it was stereotypical Hollywood commercial movie (and also had massive PR).

There is this trend in Hollywood to make movies where white people "fight" racism... The whites love it, cuz its soo "inspirational" and makes them feel that they are part of this fighting even though they are lazy and racist in real life... You could rename the help as "White people fighting racism for black people"... When in reality, it was black people who fought racism and thousands died... Rosa Parks, Martin Lurther King, Malcolm X, and so on...

however, this idea of "white people saving blacks, and setting them free and learning them the beauty of life" is a trend for successful hollywood movies that get Oscar awards.. but that does not make them "intelligent" movies as you call them... if you wanna find out about racism, get a book, and stop watching fairy tale stories like 'the help"

there was a parody of this on madtv that pretty much sums up how dumb these movies are, different story, but same idea behind:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVF-nirSq5s

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I hear this same nonsense in reference to the feminist movement...yes of course women had nothing to do with fighting for their own rights, they were given rights by the almighty white man. In truth, there was a meeting of the minds of black as well as white in order to make changes just as it wasn't solely white males who did all changing in order for women to vote, own property, etc. It seems whoever is in power has to give in or be fought against in order for change to come about. To minimize the more liberal whites who fought along side the blacks is minimalism and racist in itself. In fact, black men were allowed to own land and property before women were allowed to do so. How about a film in reference to that injustice?
I think we all know about Rosa Parks, Martin Luther King and Malcolm X without purchasing one book on the black rights movement and everyone knows that this is a work of fiction.
You're just another one of those people who tries to claim this work is more 'white guilt' instead of giving some of us 'lazy' and supposedly 'racist' white people credit for caring about all the black people who we knew deserved rights long before they were attained by them.
Look in the mirror at your own racism before accusing others of it won't you?
Mad tv is just that - it parodies LOTS of films just as Mad Magazine did. I enjoy parody on a good deal of films I enjoy so thanks for mentioning it.


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I guess i went little too far with "whites giving freedom" to other races.. After all, Abraham Lincoln freed the slaves... however, the Help was a mainstream movie with huge P.R. and imo, you said it very nicely "white guilt"... whether its true, who knows... i guess the truth lies somewhere in the middle of our comments...

i try not to be racist, and hell, it is hell of a work... when you date outside of your race, you deal with problems you never even thought of...

however, reading back my post, it did seem as calling you racist... sorry it came out that way... i was just surprised by your comparison of TLAM to the Help, which is like... uncomparable.. first of all, TLAM is a comedy where racial issues are ommited, the help the complete opposite... why to mix those in the first place... TLAM is a comedy, of course, if one compares it to those "intelligent" movies, its not gonna look intelligent... therefore, your post seemed tad ignorant in the first place, and i went ahead... anyhoo, black people produce all kind of movies, there should be a new film about MLK, if you want intelligent, you can watch that... but knowing this is comedy and then bringing this stuff his and discussing the racial issues is kinda off-topic and leads nowhere...

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I'm sorry if you thought I was comparing this film with the other. I was strictly talking about The Help. I'm uncertain if you read my comments or someone else's? (It's been awhile since I've been on this particular board!) In any case, I don't think there is any comparison between this TLAM and The Help.
Yes I understand that we have struggles still with racism. I've not dated outside of my race so I cannot comment on that but I imagine it must be difficult to deal with many issues in reference to that.
Anyway, sorry if I offended. I certainly did not mean to!

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oh dont worry... reading back my comment, I came out rude myself, so my apology to you... I guess its just the forums, you know... things get lost in translation and its hard to comment on touchy topics without offending anyone... I also didnt mean to cause no harm, but oh boy.. my bad... sorry..

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No problem! I have some of the same issues!
Peace.

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Barbershop got a nice 6.3. Still not a great score, but I enjoyed it.

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Btw the opposite of gynocentric is androcentric, not phallic-centric lol. I completely agree with the original post. If it weren't for racists lowering the rating then it would most certainly be higher than it is. That is all lls

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I use that term all the time because most people know what phallis means but not androcentric so now that you've called me on that one, I'll have to use the correct terminology!


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:) I hope i didn't come off as a jerk lol it wasn't intended that way. *peace* 'extends hand for a peace offering' lol

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Indeed you did not! Thanks for the correction!

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The rating is not surprising. This is IMDB. I'd say 6-7.5 is reasonable.


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i love all tyler perrys movies and i am constantly confused about the ratings here in imdb then again heck look at those bad movies w/ high ratings..mostly people who go here and rate are teeners ages 12 to 25 or so and lets just say they dont have the best of tastes (they like michael bay movies and twilight).




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"Cinephiles tend to analyse movies beyond whether or not they giggled?"

And since when do cinephiles make up the voting population of IMDb? They certainly do not. It's simple statistics that prove the IMDb voting system is flawed and this goes well beyond the axe grinding you have for affirmative action. There are plenty of terrible movies made everyday that get average ratings on IMDb that slip by without notice. Why is it every movie released with the label "black movie" gets disproportionately poor reviews here (based against other sites like Rotten Tomatoe or Meta Critic)?

What could that extra factor be in the voting of the masses of knuckle dragging droogs that populate this board that could account for these low votes. Any idea what bias ideology could be present Tetsuo? I let you connect the dotes on your own since you seem to be a person a rational intellect.

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it doesn't matter what the complaint of black people... or what the racial mistreatment... white america is going to steadfastly refuse to believe/admit that it's racial.... it's in their makeup.... they've got to believe that there's another reason... and trying to explain/show them different is an exercise in futility.... hell... they still believe that the rest of the world hates them for their "freedoms".... you're wasting your breath...

this tetsuoriot person.... if he/she doesn't like the movie... or doesn't rate movies low simply because they're black... then that's all he/she can attest to... he/she has no knowledge at all of why others do it... and it doesn't even register with this "person" how they've insulted black people... we apparently suck at everything... writing... directing... acting... and our product is s**t because we don't let the great white people who are obviously much more talented then blacks... have a hand in it.... or maybe it does register....

again... you're wasting your breath...

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@ Jaye

You got it. There is no real worthwhile reason. Just report when neccessary and ignore.



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You noted that I am obviously of reasonable intelligence


I was being sarcastic. You're obviously an inbred racist moron. Looking through your posting history makes that pretty clear.

Go celebrate the end of racism against black people with the rest of your white racist republican friends. There are many likeminded delusional people such as yourself that you'll never have to have an intelligent or challenging thought in your head.

Affirmative action, for all its problems, exists because of people like you.

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No, I was being sarcastic. It was clear from message one you were a person of dimwitted intellect and very little in the way of rational thinking. You think hooded clansmen mentality of opposing affirmative action and speaking up for reverse racism makes you some kind of free thinker? You're championing the same caustic and vicious position every red neck racist has held for the last 100 years.

I'll continue being a miserable prick if that means not judging people by what ever random genetic variance they may possess and instead judge them on their character (example: you're a turd).

Oh, and for the record I'm white (and Canadian). Sad to hear a fellow countrymen would hold such archaic beliefs, but looking at Parliament it seems we have a lot of likeminded people here.

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I am pro racism? How exactly did you get to that conclusion? The rest is just inflammatory rhetoric from someone so far right you've lost touch with reality. You're paragraph on Harper pretty much proves it.

I think you need to understand something about bigotry. No one, not the Klan, not the Nazis, not a single person in the history or the world claimed they were a racist. They all claimed to be rational, intelligent, intellectuals, like you have. They weren't. You aren't. Racism against minorities exists. It exists in the voting of IMDb. It exists in the vitriol you spew here. You are a racist. I know this with certainty. It would do you some good to look at your life and the way you present yourself and try and realize why you're a racist. I know you won't, because that is the nature of bigotry. But at least I tried.

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Except if black people did not give other black writers, directors, and actors work in Hollywood they probably wouldn't GET work to begin with. If you look at this cast, there are so many talented actors and actresses that SHOULD be getting more work and are much better than a lot of white actors working right now. I don't like Tyler Perry and his movies but I think he is an important figure. He's not pandering like you said, he's providing a service and opportunities that are very needed right now.

Also I don't think people realize how recently segregation has ended and how much past oppression effects opportunities today. When you have a group that was systematically oppressed and not given opportunities for hundreds of years it's gonna take more than a few decades for equal opportunities to ultimately be achieved.

To say that America is not racist because we have a black president is so ignorant. "White people know better than to be racist" Oh dear.... it seems you need to take your blinders off, from what I've noticed people have grown MORE racist in the last ten years. And well it's not fair for the black community to call everything racist all the time, it's also wrong for the white community to pretend like racism isn't there all the time.

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Wow. That's an interesting opinion about why black films get low ratings. I must say, as a black guy and an avid moviegoer, your opinion is not all true.

I think the main issue is that white people aren't seeing any of these movies, but still leaving a low ratings. For what reason? Nothing but hating. Maybe it's not racism, but to give a film a low rating without seeing it because it made millions is very suspect. If you seem the movie and realized it wasn't that good, then comment about. Don't start off with low budget, bad acting, etc. because usually that's not always the case.


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Affirmative action has nothing to do with the Hollywood system so much as money. Money money money. It's all about that and I don't know if you've noticed or not but Hollywood seems to have a LOT of money to put into subpar films. Subpar films in the past 10-20 years is what Hollywood's all about. Affirmative action? Yeah o.k. How many female directors are there in Hollywood - no I'll go further worldwide? Not many even though there are plenty of female directors so Hollywood doesn't simply put females behind the camera because they believe in affirmative action neither do they hire fat chicks to put in front of the camera either simply because well obviously since the film industry is designed to have young boys fill up the seats, young boys don't prefer looking at fat chicks do they? If you want to know why films suck it's not because of lack of ideas or just bad scripts. We all know there are good scripts out there but if you are catering to a limited audience, you don't want good scripts do you? You want action, comedies, children films because again, most seat fillers are for young people and that's why people who want to engage in a good narrative film or a film that doesn't insult your intelligence, stays at home and tries to find a good foreign film on Netflicks or if they are lucky enough to live in a big city and have an art house cinema - they go there.

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When people start throwing around Affirmative Action in context where it does not fit at all it is telling . Then to go on to play the race card as if black people are talking all the roles form white people . I am here to call you a liar.

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Like someone quoted before this movie is no "Shawshank Redemption" so obviously you don't go into the cinema with the expectation of seeing some life changing film...I paid to go see a comedy and that's exactly what I got ... we all have seen worse movies than this get higher ratings on this site case in point "Wrath of the Titans" gets a rating of 6.7 one of the worst movies I have seen recently (acting,story line,plot you name just a hot mess)however "Think Like a Man" would get a failed rating of 4.7 whether it be black cast or white cast you all know damn right this none sense is not fair

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Spot on Tercellouis. This was just a nice successful family film. Most enjoyed the film and left satisified. You have the haters, who see a tiny bit of positivity associated with a so called "black" film, devolve into bloodthirsty wolves. Seething over the tiniest bit of positivity. What gives?

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This movie sucked? is that why the reviews are fairly decent? i have not read a reveiw which would classify this movie as one that "sucked" yet here on imdb it has 4.8 rating or something.



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While Tyler Perry deserves his low ratings, I do feel this film is rated low because of racist attitudes towards Black films. If you saw the racist comments on opening weekend, it is not surprising. Anyway, the rating has not stopped it from being Box Office Gold.

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