Who The Hell Killed JFK?

I definitely think the CIA had something to do with it, for a number of reasons. They had a retribution motive, due to JFK getting rid of A. Dulles and other top CIA officials, and a desire to keep Vietnam going, among other things. Only the CIA or other intelligence agencies like the Office of Naval Intelligence would have been able to move Oswald like a pawn on a chessboard for the last 6 years of his life. If you haven't read these two books, I strongly recommend them: "JFK and the Unspeakable" and "Oswald and the CIA."

It was Castro, he just confessed on his deathbed but the corrupt Trump media would not allow the truth to come out!


Just kidding, I used to think that there were conspiracies too, I read a book called JFK High Treason many years ago that pointed out too many loose ends or things that were not explainable, BUT I have seen some recent TV specials ( on 50th anniversary of assassination, where the whole of Dealy plaza was measured by laser and entered 3d into a computer model compared with Zapruder film. Based on that and the angle of the bullet height of the jump seat Gov Connelly was in the single bullet theory is not an impossibility. Also tests were done with ballistic gel and other tests that explain why his head flung backwards on the fatal shot. This has changed my mind about conspiracies. Oswald may have acted alone just for the notorias fame he would get. But, there are still things that make no sense. The major ones 1) he was a poor marksman based on his Marine records and that shot was very hard to do even for experts (maybe he got lucky or practiced alot after Marines) 2) why was limousine taken immediately to Detroit to be cleaned and repaired/restored. This is a very big part of forensic evidence yet they did not analyze it at all? If there were more than 3 shots the car would likely have shown this, but it was not available for examination during the Waren report.

These are just 2 of the biggest mysteries that I have a hard time understanding if Oswald acted alone and there is no conspiracy. Just my thoughts on the matter.

It was Oswald, and Oswald alone. /thread

This is 1 of those "ask 10 people and get 10 different answers" sort of things.....

The most likely scenario I've ever heard is that 1) the mafia was most definitely involved. There's little debate on that. Jack Ruby was a low-rent "low to mid level" Jewish "mob associate" of the Dallas branch of the Chicago Outfit. Obviously when he killed Oswald it was to both shut LHO up and also to pay a debt that was called in by the Italian Dallas mob boss(es) that Ruby worked for.

This is where it gets murky.

My great-aunt in the 1960s ran a bookie joint and was a madam(or so I'm told) at a whorehouse/bordello run by New Orleans crime boss Carlos Marcella. It was run by one of Marcella's captains/capos named "Sam Domino" -- per my late aunt. This was on Poydras Street in New Orleans.

The general consensus with most JFK researchers is that New Orleans mob boss Carlos Marcella HAD SOMETHING to do with JFK's assassination and something to do with rounding up Oswald and/or cleaning up after him. This was done in connection with the Dallas Outfit under the authority of the Chicago Outfit. Marcella rounded up LHO and "the Umbrella Man" and probably "others unknown" as FBI lingo goes to describe other unknown conspirators to do the actual operation.

Now -- there are 2 theories as to what the mob was acting on. 1 was that RFK/JFK was using the DOJ to go down hard on the Italian mafia. This supposedly was in retaliation for the "guinea mob" muscling out the Kennedy's Irish mafia relatives in Boston during the Prohibition Era.....

Marcella wacked JFK either 1) for this insult or:


2) there's circumstantial but very strong evidence that rogue, right-wing members/elements of the CIA who were also involved in rounding up mob enforcers to kill Castro were involved in the assassination.

The general consensus is that these "rogue, right-wing elements" of the CIA wacked JFK both in retaliation for his botching of Bay of Pigs and also because they viewed him as a weak threat given that the Soviets had placed missiles 100 miles from the Mainland and Kennedy had not even noticed until it was already done.

They wacked him hoping President Johnson would be better.

Considering JFK was killed in Texas -- Johnson's home state and power base where he was basically a kind of political king with lots of connections to various people its VERY possible LBJ was in on it.

Jackie O thought that LBJ had something to do with her husbands' death:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2023418/Jackie-O-tapes-reveal-JFKs-affairs-believed-death.html

.....but considering that a general found LBJ in the bathroom on Air Force One crying like a little b-tch saying "ITS A CONSPIRACY! THEY'RE GONNA GET US ALL!" I dont' think he had anything to do with it:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/steven-m-gillon/a-new-wrinkle-in-the-jfk_b_339026.html

....so probably rogue elements of CIA -- right wing elements at that -- who saw JFK as a paper tiger to borrow Mao's phrase and wacked him because they felt the security of the country was at stake with JFK in office and with LBJ they had a better chance at standing up to the Soviets.

The mafia and Marcella/Ruby/Dallas/Chicago Outfit characters were just "the bagmen" who, how shall I say it "rounded up the patsy nut" Oswald and the other shooters/"Umbrella Man" to actually do the deed.

The Chicago Outfit had ties to right-wing elements of the CIA because the CIA used them as bagmen to kill Castro and carry out assassination attempts in Cuba.

The mob didn't originate the plan but given the Kennedy brothers had such a hard on with sicking the DOJ on the Italian mob -- they probably went along with the plan because it made business easier.

I'm starting to buy in to the accidental gun discharge theory from the Secret Service Agent riding in the car behind JFK.



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Lee Harvey Oswald shot him twice with a mail order Carcano 6.5×52mm.

Any other $#!t you want to whip up is for your own amusement.

Sometimes the simplest, most obvious answers, happen to be the truth.

You want to know how many alien corpses are frozen at Roswell?

Zero.

You want to know whats going on at that pizza place they claim is the
hideaway of Hillarys pedophile ring?

Theres nothing going on, they make pizza's there.

This is why the worlds a dangerous place.

Paranoia and religion.

Now lets go get some snacks!

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Pffft, my suspension of disbelief has higher standards than that.

I read the mob was behind it. The mafia - Chicago mafia in particular - helped get JFK elected. But as attorney general Bobby Kennedy came down hard on the mafia and the Kennedys thought the mafia was just going to take it. It was Bobby the mafia were mad at but it was his brother who had the power so he was the one who had to go.

Everyone knows it was a suicide.