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You can find out who the killer is halfway through the first playthrough

posted 14 years ago by abdul_assaad
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If your really smart enough you can figure it out as soon as u play with the 2 boys playing in the industrial area, because the game only lets u play with 4 charcters, but here u are playing a 5th one as a little kid, so if your smart enough to figure out that infact there isnt a 5th playable character but infact one of the 3 male charcters when they were young, its just a matter of figuring out which of the 3 it is.

[–] Klop_Gob 14 years ago

I actually knew it was Shelby as soon as he said ''I'm a private eye, there's nothing I can't do'' in the scene where you save the mother and look after her baby. Complete give away right there.

''Yes i'm dead, so what?''

[–] Razor187 14 years ago

Didn't he also say something to the effect of "______ isn't the killer, I'd stake my life on it"

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[–] countessofole 13 years ago

"Didn't he also say something to the effect of "______ isn't the killer, I'd stake my life on it""

Nah, that was Jayden.

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[–] thug_thug 14 years ago

I actually knew it was Shelby as soon as he said ''I'm a private eye, there's nothing I can't do'' in the scene where you save the mother and look after her baby. Complete give away right there.

Why did that line seal the deal for you?

[–] stillem39 14 years ago

Also, why did Shelby call the police after killing the typewriter guy? It just seemed like unnecessary drama.

"Oh, my God! I just knocked out Martha Kent."

[–] slider_alt 14 years ago

Plus the little kid looks like Shelby too, just not as overweight.

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[–] Lightsaberboy 14 years ago

you can't really use that as proof since what if didn't want to say anything about playing as the kid to keep it as a surprise, just like how Assassin's Creed 2 doesn't say you play as Altair on the back, but rather Ezio and Desmond, or many other games.

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[–] jon_lajoie 14 years ago

There's also the typewriter on his desk. That's what gave it away for me, even if that wasn't the typewriter he used. That and the fact that none of the victim's families knew who he was despite him claiming he was hired by them.

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[–] Left_of_Center 14 years ago

YES! Exactly jon_lajoie. I kept wondering why he kept telling every parent that he was hired by the OTHER parents.

Also, the typewriter store. When Scott comes up with the idea that he wants to wipe the prints off of everything in the store, my first reaction was, "That's something a GUILTY person would think of..." I mean, maybe I'm wrong. But that's what I thought.

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[–] concrete_door 14 years ago

not to mention shelby says he knows what its like to lose a loved one. once the brother died i remmberd he said that

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[–] RapaxGuardian 12 years ago

That one kind of confused me. I assumed he lost his father, and when we saw him looking at that picture of himself as a cop, I just assumed that was his dead father ^.^;;

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[–] angelexposed 12 years ago

Scott was adopted out following the accident and lived with another family, so it could well be the other gentleman was his father (just adopted). It's most likely his adoptive father was a cop (as it seems to run in families in most stories like this) which is why he became one.

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[–] j-cf 11 years ago

Really nice post, angelexposed!

All of this is true, subtle, great!

Nonetheless, that is, to me, ruined by:

- The Manfred scene, badly shot, bad timing.
- Most of his thoughts are genuine.
- The guy Norman fights at Paco's place seems a lot thinner than Shelby.
- Norman says "the killer is probably between 30 - 45 years old" while consulting ARI (you trust the *beep* ARI). To me, Shelby was at least 50.

I wish it was Ethan (an obvious twist, so it would be a twist on an expected twist), or an average guy ala Seven.

Besides, I like Shelby!

The game fooled me, but cheated on me. Anyway, great game!

[–] smokzey 8 years ago

j-cf wrote:

Really nice post, angelexposed!

All of this is true, subtle, great!

Nonetheless, that is, to me, ruined by:

- The Manfred scene, badly shot, bad timing.
- Most of his thoughts are genuine.
- The guy Norman fights at Paco's place seems a lot thinner than Shelby.
- Norman says "the killer is probably between 30 - 45 years old" while consulting ARI (you trust the *beep* ARI). To me, Shelby was at least 50.

I wish it was Ethan (an obvious twist, so it would be a twist on an expected twist), or an average guy ala Seven.

Besides, I like Shelby!

The game fooled me, but cheated on me. Anyway, great game!

Wouldn't have been a twist - almost the entire game was trying to convince us it was him. If in the end it was Ethan - then this was all a psychological trip, what would've been even worse, which I was hoping wouldn't be, is that in the end we learn that Jayden and Ethan are the same guy, or hell.. all of them are him - multiple personalities... bleh - good thing they didn't go there :)

Personality I'm glad they took the Saw road over making Ethan be the killer, then like I said it wouldn't have been a twist at all, just making the game quite pointless methinks.

[–] BlackRook_A8 14 years ago

That's absolutely idiotic logic.

[–] Lightsaberboy 14 years ago

i remember when Hideo Kojima said you'd play as Solid Snake in MGS2. he was right.......XD

Oops! Zat waz not medicine!

[–] abdul_assaad 14 years ago

I said it's possible to know, I didn't say your certainly gonna know, I also didn't say it was the only way you find who the killer was.
Everybody knows u only play with 4 characters!

[–] TheSteelHelmetReturns 14 years ago

Goes to show how clever some people are - I was shocked that Shelby was the Origami Killer considering I made him out to be a nice guy... I was completely oblivious to the typewriter...

But, there was something suspicious when he went back to the mansion after he had broke free from his car and shooting everyone like he controlled The Matrix.

[–] Batmanuel1987 14 years ago

I suspected him all along, and little tidbits that were mentioned in this thread only confirmed my suspicions throughout the game.

There was another one that no one mentioned. It where he says Lauren's going to be disappointed since she's not going to know who the killer is or something like that.

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[–] MikeMaringka 14 years ago

Am I the only one who was annoyed that I'm playing a character and I don't even know his actions when he is killing someone? I would get it if it was Ethan, and I control him, but he blacks out, and another part of him is the killer. But I'm a PI who is aware of everything he does, and yet I am not aware of everything I am doing. I found that particularly annoying. Also, why would he even go to the antique store? Is it part of a game he is playing? If he knows there's a chance he would be discovered, wouldn't he just not go there? And when he's alone, doing his detective work, what reason do I have to think he's the killer? Would the killer go through the motions of pretending to investigate a crime and look for clues just for himself? Seems ridiculous. The more I think about it, the more ridiculous it seems that he is the killer.

[–] moviefan320 14 years ago

Everything he was doing was to destroy evidence that could lead back to him. I mean we never see him kill Manfred, but it turns out he did. He was pretending in order to get people there to trust him and by doing so allow him the opportunity of getting rid of his tracks.

[–] Farnicerous 13 years ago

That annoyed me too. But I did love the twist about why he was really collecting evidence.
I wonder if it might have worked better if Lauren was the playable one in the duo, so we still got that twist and betrayal, but it simply becomes the characters betraying each other, rather than the game betraying it's players.
Plus, Lauren was just kinda awesome, more screen time for her could only be a good thing, lol.

Also, another clue that Shelby was the killer - in the first flashback, those weird whistling sounds young Scott makes are apparently hints that he has asthma. I was wondering what the heck that was all about, lol.
Also, the way he's thinking that Lauren is just getting in the way despite how helpful she always is.