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Why did no one like 'The Breakfast Bunch'?


funny episode and parody

no one liked it..why

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NO ONE didn't like it.

I liked it! It was a good episode.

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It's hilarious, what do you mean no one liked it!

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The episode was written for and aimed at fans of the movie The Breakfast Club. If you don't know the movie, haven't seen the movie, the jokes go right over your head. Chances are, those were viewers who didn't get the jokes.

Of course, Dan Schneider slipped an Animal House reference into another episode with a character named Fawn Liebowitz. And the April Fools Day episode had a brilliant parody of the classic game show Match Game, down to excellent impressions of host Gene Rayburn and panelists Nipsey Russell, Brett Somers, Charles Nelson Reilly and Richard Dawson.

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The episode was written for and aimed at fans of the movie The Breakfast Club. If you don't know the movie, haven't seen the movie, the jokes go right over your head. Chances are, those were viewers who didn't get the jokes.

If knowing the pop culture and trivia of a parody were required to enjoy it then 'The Simpsons, 'Family Guy', 'SpongeBob SquarePants','Animaniacs','Pinky & the Brain'.'Robot Chicken', 'Boondocks' and 'Futurama' - to name a few-wouldn't be or would not have been hit shows. Especially those that were saved from cancellation then became hits.

I thought they did a great job with the parody.

Sheldon:"Was the starfish wearing boxer shorts? Because you might have been watching Nickelodeon."

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I thought it was hilarious! If someone has not seen The Breakfast Club, they would not appreciate the humor of the episode.

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Meh I didn't like it for some reason. I've seen Breakfast Club and got the references but I just didn't find it funny.

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I liked the bits and pieces I saw of it!

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A big reason people don't like "The Breakfast Bunch" is that, at this point in the series, people wanted character and story development.

"The Breakfast Bunch" was the season three opener. Season one had 18 episodes. Season two had only 12. As it turned out, season three also had only 12 episodes as well. Instead of furthering the story and the characters along, season three not only begins with the parody "The Breakfast Bunch", but also includes the off-the-rails "April Fools Blank". With only thirteen half-hours in the season, many viewers felt that the writers / producers could have made better use of these episodes by writing new stories about the "Victorious" characters; instead we got the "Victorious" actors playing parodies of other characters. By the time season four rolled around, much of the audience had grown disenchanted, as they realized that things were never going to advance. Sadly, most season four episodes would go on to prove these viewers right.

"The Breakfast Bunch" was the start of Victorious's long, painful slide into television oblivion. It's a shame Victorious was never allowed to reach its' full potential.

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It seems like Schneider's shows in general tend to be procedural, and is very light on the serialized story lines.

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i liked that episode! made me laugh....also Beck looked too much like Bender...SWOOOON ;)

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So pretty much you wanted it to become a *beep* Degrassi clone. Victorious started out as and was always a absurdist comedy. I mean for *beep* sakes the first scene ever had a mold tree/bush, the breakfast bunch and April Fool Blank were 100% Victorious episodes.

The show was always random and absurd, the truth is fans are *beep* spoiled and have way to much power over shows now days. Sorry TV is amazing now but it was better when the creators and cast got to be artistic and didn't have to pay attention and give fan service to idiot fans. Just look at Seddie for this proof

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So pretty much you wanted it to become a *beep* Degrassi clone.

Hmm...

Degrassi: The Next Generation - 333 episodes and counting
Victorious - 55 episodes total

What?!? No one said anything about wanting to turn Victorious into a Degrassi clone. The two shows have nothing to do with each other. Degrassi is obviously a drama; Victorious is obviously a comedy.

Victorious started out as and was always a absurdist comedy. I mean for *beep* sakes the first scene ever had a mold tree/bush, the breakfast bunch and April Fool Blank were 100% Victorious episodes.

A.N.T. Farm is an absurdist comedy; oddball things can pop out at any moment. Victorious is a pretty standard sitcom. (And the "mold tree / bush" is a common school science project.) Episodes like "The Breakfast Bunch" and "April Fools Blank", especially that early in a series run, are a sign that the writers for the series have pretty much run out of ideas.

The show was always random and absurd, the truth is fans are *beep* spoiled and have way to much power over shows now days.

Expecting basic character and story development doesn't make any fan of any series "*beep* spoiled". If the reset button is constantly pushed at the end of each episode, fans will eventually grow tired of waiting for something to happen. The "power" fans have is the same power they have always had: if they don't like a show, they stop watching the show and it gets cancelled.

Sorry TV is amazing now but it was better when the creators and cast got to be artistic and didn't have to pay attention and give fan service to idiot fans. Just look at Seddie for this proof

"Idiot fans" who need to be given "fan service"? Hmm...

No one forced Dan Schneider or his writers to make Sam and Freddie share their first kiss. No one forced them to write the scene in "iSpeed Date" where Sam quietly walks out, sad and alone, when she finds Carly and Freddie dancing. No one forced them to write the episode where Carly becomes disturbed by the fact that Sam and Freddie kissed. No fans forced the writers to add any scenes that teased any relationship between any of the characters other than friendship. Dan Schneider and his team made those decisions and added those scenes. When you have episode after episode of status quo, people are going to notice and pick up on anything that isn't status quo. That doesn't mean they're "spoiled" or "idiots", it means they are paying attention. If they are paying attention, that means they will make it a point to watch the next episode, which is what TV producers are supposed to want.

As for "Seddie" failing, again, that was Dan Schneider and his writers. No fans forced them to produce those episodes, but they did. The show was becoming tired (mainly due to lack of new episodes) and something needed to be done to shake up the "status quo". The fact that the shake up involved Schneider and his crew going out of their way to drum down peoples' throats that a Sam and Freddie relationship (which they had laid the groundwork for) would never work is something I have never, ever seen in a television program before. At that point, Nickelodeon should have stepped in and either eliminated the entire arc or forced Schneider and his crew to rewrite it. The point was to toy with the fans, then go right back to status quo? Wow. After the next episode, "iQ", which featured a Carly relationship that lasted all of one episode, there was simply no reason to continue watching iCarly. We got it. There was never going to be any forward movement. "Seddie" failed because that's how it was deliberately written.

But, back to Victorious.

Said it before. Will say it again. Given a chance, Victorious could have been a much better series. It's sad that it never got to reach its full potential.

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Most people that use the character development and expanding plots etc crap in this fandom just wanted romance and couples. They want the characters to grow so that their couple gets together because that one episode had a kinda maybe tease about them and its terrible character development because they didn't follow that.

Seddie was a 100% a fan driven *beep* decision by the network because of how vocal and rabid that fan base was. Don't you find it odd that Dan pretty much called shippers idiots and said iCarly wasn't about that then went and did it the same season? Then went on to completely bomb the Seddie episodes to the point that the elevator scene that ended the relationship said this relationship is stupid and we were stupid for trying to make it more than what it was, pretty much a huge *beep* you to the crazy Seddie fans and the people in charge that forced him to do it because of those fans?

You could bring Creddie and iSYL into it but that episode was normal. Dan likes to do pretty much self contained episodes that resolve in 22 minutes and later do call back jokes to previous episodes. That why I say iSYL was his idea and the Seddie arc was forced on him.

You are really downplaying that stupid power fans have these days. They look at trends and social media and change things to appease the fans. Yes that has happened for years but its too easy for fans to get their way now. We do have power over the shows to a point and that has taken away from the creativity of these shows. It's not longer let's check the ratings. It's not let check the ratings, social media, and the Internet. So yes fans have a say in a show beyond just not watching.

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For the source material alone, I thought it was great. Sometimes, there would be a scene that I could look at and say, "Yeah, they're so referencing the movie." And I've never seen it. It was one of the best Season 3 episodes, IMO.

I'm on the fence when it comes to "April Fools' Blank."

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I LOVED it. It only just recently got deleted off of my DVR (I had the original showing recording).

My sister (who doesn't even like Nick shows anymore) and I still quote it. One of our favorite lines is "You're so conceded Tori, you're so conceded..."

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