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The Main Lesson (spoilers)


Don't follow Liam Neeson.
He basically got them all killed. He acted like he knew everything about these wolves but in the end all his decisions were bad. Why leave the shelter of the plane? Go into the woods where you're completely exposed. Why take wallets when they will be found later by rescue teams? As if they need more to carry. And at the end, the great Wolf Expert walks right into the wolf den without knowing it.
( the very premise of the movie is flawed since there's been something like 1 documented wolf attack in N. America in the last 200 years, which proves that wolves aren't interested in humans at all, especially a group of humans)

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the very premise of the movie is flawed since there's been something like 1 documented wolf attack in N. America in the last 200 years, which proves that wolves aren't interested in humans at all, especially a group of humans)


There's also no such thing as killer robots, or time travel, but people didn't whine about that when Terminator 2 came out.

There's also no such thing as dinosaur regeneration, but people didn't whine about that when Jurassic Park came out.

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Why leave the shelter of the plane? Go into the woods where you're completely exposed. Why take wallets when they will be found later by rescue teams?


It's a good point and the thought occurred to me as well, but the desolate area was very snowy and windy and it's likely that the entire wreckage would've been covered by snow in a short time. As far as rescue teams finding them, it depends on how far off course they were and how much the wreckage would've been covered by snow by the time search planes flew over. This is why they took the wallets, in case the wreckage was never found and they expected to survive

Evidently Ottway felt they had a better chance of walking out of there and finding signs of civilization, which turned out to be partially true since one area of the forest they were in showed signs of logging. Maybe he felt all the carcasses at the wreckage attracted the pack of wolves or that they were invading wolves' territory, which was brought up in one of the discussions.

Another thing about the wallets: The writers included that scene because the wallets were needed in a later scene (at the end) where Ottway goes over the pictures of the guys who died and their families. In other words, they took the wallets because the plot required them to take them.

there's been something like 1 documented wolf attack in N. America in the last 200 years, which proves that wolves aren't interested in humans at all, especially a group of humans


The key word is "documented." What about undocumented cases? If a pack of wolves or lone wolf is hungry enough, would it not go after a human?

Although some of the complaints about the believability of the story can be explained away others are more dubious. In addition to issue of the wolves, the jump from the cliff and the climb to the trees (on a very questionable "rope") seriously streches credibility. Yet movies (or certain things in them) aren't always meant to be taken literally and aren't necessarily supposed to be realistic as filmmakers are more concerned with aesthetics, psychology, metaphors and conveying ideas; and that's the case with "The Grey." The survival story is merely a stage.

Which brings up another common complaint, that the film's ultimately pointless, which simply isn't the case. Now you may not like the story or the points that it conveys, but it's not pointless. See my interpretation at this thread for details, if interested: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1601913/board/flat/235943604.



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Don't follow Liam Neeson.
He basically got them all killed. He acted like he knew everything about these wolves but in the end all his decisions were bad. Why leave the shelter of the plane? Go into the woods where you're completely exposed. Why take wallets when they will be found later by rescue teams? As if they need more to carry. And at the end, the great Wolf Expert walks right into the wolf den without knowing it.
( the very premise of the movie is flawed since there's been something like 1 documented wolf attack in N. America in the last 200 years, which proves that wolves aren't interested in humans at all, especially a group of humans)


Yeah, the decisions Ottway made throughout The Grey made little sense.

What you have to understand, wlee08 is that these observations and concerns you have about what happens and what is portrayed in The Grey simply do not matter. Because there have been movies made about killer robots from the future, time travel, alternate realities, dinosaurs from old DNA, yadda yadda, Joe Carnahan is free to do whatever he wants with a story clearly set in our reality, with absolutely no established SciFi or fantasy elements. And you have to accept that and stop complaining. Right?

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LMFAO, all great points. Of course, people have pointed out that this movie takes place in fantasy-land-an-alternate-universe. But, if it was set on this planet in this universe, you make excellent points.

In other words, don't just follow the loud mouth who thinks he's in charge. ;-)

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Next time I'm in a plane crash I'll be sure NOT to follow Neeson. Thanks!

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