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Very reminiscent of The Dreamers


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Disagree.

The Dreamers took itself so seriously, whilst this has a lovely daft touch to it. This is also a funny and engaging film words I would not use to describe The Dreamers.

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You're right, the differences are great, and The Dreamers was indeed more serious or 'darker'.

But I still feel like, in a way, it was almost the same story, but set in a different time and place, and viewed through a different lens.

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Well, the difference being: in the Dreamers the relationship is consumed and there is no "real" love triangle--in the Dreamers only Michael Pitt's character seems to care about anything or anyone... HOWEVER maybe Xavier Dolan was impressed, maybe a little inspired by that film...after all who shows up in the last scene?? None other than Louis Garrel -the french Dreamer himself in a non-speaking role (I understand he doesn't come cheap)!

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Is it a coincidence that Louis Garrel (who plays one of the 2 guys in 'The Dreamers') plays a small but important part in Les Amours Imaginaires? :-)

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Louis Garrel specializes in films that have 'ménage à trois' scenarios so I saw his appearance as a reference to his work as an actor. When he appeared, I laughed out loud because I thought of all his other movies involving love triangle relationships.

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I disagree. The Dreamers was a real film - this was garbage. Every scene was slow and shot in extreme closeup - many times hand-held closeup. Most scenes did nothing to advance the plot; they served only to advance the ego of the 'star' who was the writer/director.

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Please. A "real" film? I'm sorry, but Bertolucci is a pretentious pervert, incapable of subtlety or humor, who uses actors as pawns to play out his own sexual fantasies. Nobody would ever have given him a second look if he wasn't lucky enough to be acquainted with Vittorio Storaro. Storaro didn't even work on that film, and frankly, I have no use for it.

"Heartbeats" is far from perfect, but at least Dolan seems to have a genuine understanding of human emotion, and how to bring it out of his cast. He might've been half-responsible for a few beautiful images over the years, but Bertolucci has never made a film with as much truth as this one. Dolan's only in his early twenties, and he needs more practice, but this film is far from "garbage." I agree it might be a bit narcissistic to cast himself, but hey, he actually gives a pretty good performance.

Besides - this is a film that I love despite its technical imperfections, because of the honesty and accuracy of the story and the characters, and because the director actually has a sense of humor about what he's doing. On the other hand, the technical perfection of Bertolucci's films does little to distract me from his cold, self-serious, empty storytelling and poorly drawn characters.

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"Bertolucci is a pretentious pervert, incapable of subtlety or humor, who uses actors as pawns to play out his own sexual fantasies."

Interesting analysis.

So The Last Emperor and 1900 are both simply artless exercises in perverted exhibitionism as well then hm?

I'm the last person to hold up the Academy as an infallible bastion of quality, but methinks 9 oscars for The Last Emperor might suggest a wee bit more than the hollow cinematic masturbation you're perceiving.

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I thought of The Dreamers when I read the plot.

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I've only seen the trailer to Heartbeats but Bertolucci's The Dreamers immediately came to mind. I love that film (and the novelization - which is actually better, I think), and makes me want to see this one - whether it's less serious or not.



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that was my first thought. I loved the Dreamers and loved Dolan's movie. However, I think Heartbeats is better(I have to say, I hate Michael Pitt, although Eva Green's charisma is hard to beat). Dolan definitely put a lot of thought into this movie and he certainly loves cinema.

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disagree.

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I love both movies! I think 'The Dreamers' was a lot more vulgar than this one. Also, I think that this movie was much more emotional.

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