Who has read Patrick White?


Nobel prize winner - just getting acquainted with his work.

"Mr. Rush, that smoldering, squishy-faced, classically proficient Australian actor"

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Well, I have just finished Voss - figures that would be my first 'excursion' with Patrick White! And I am beginning to read Eye of the Storm in case anyone wants to chat about it.

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Well I'm mostly interested in the project cause of Davis (my favourite actress) but I think I'll read the book too, it sounds good. What's it like so far? and what are the characters like?

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I read Voss and found it haunting. Much easier to follow than Eye of the Storm because White is so descriptive, and I am finding that there are so many characters introduced at once that it's taking me longer to get acquainted with them. Not even into Chapter 2 and I understand the title of the story and where we are going - but the storm has not yet begun. So far so good - looking forward.

"Mr. Rush, that smoldering, squishy-faced, classically proficient Australian actor"

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WAIT - page 314: Is this a comedy?!

Basil Hunter in a bathrobe and fur bra?

Oh the hilarity! Sir Geoffrey you are the best! *jumps up and down*



"Mr. Rush, that smoldering, squishy-faced, classically proficient Australian actor"

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Haha oh dear. Geoffrey Rush could probably pull it off though. I hope this film is also quite funny in parts as well as being devastatingly dramatic. I think it's better when there's a balance, not half and half but it doesn't bog itself down as much.

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I agree Wendy - The book really picked up and took off for me at Chapter 7 - I'm almost done and it's really got me going now. I can see this easily being pulled off as a comedy, but the IMDB description says "Drama". Dunno! We shall see!

And I have mulled over that "fur bra" reference trying to determine if I had misinterpreted a rich Patrick White descriptive or Australian slang - but I am still persuaded that it's meant quite literally - which to me is delicious comic relief.


"Mr. Rush, that smoldering, squishy-faced, classically proficient Australian actor"

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Haha good to hear. Well I just ordered the book and can't wait til it comes.

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Anyone read Vivisector? Storm makes a better movie, but I love White's depiction of the artist... PWAH! Delicious to the last.

"Mr. Rush, that smoldering, squishy-faced, classically proficient Australian actor"

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Hang on...let's get this straight!

When Sir Basil and Flora Manhood get undressed before having sex in the hotel room, the line is:

The breasts of this elderly man - her lover - were developing relentlessly inside the fur bra.

What Patrick White is describing is the fact that the aging actor has grown man-boobs beneath a dense covering of chest hair. He is not suggesting that Sir Basil is actually wearing a bra!

That would be too weird, even for the eccentric characters in this book.



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chest hair = fur bra? What a terribly confusing metaphore!

*calls for an editor*


"Geoffrey Rush - The Thinking Woman's Crumpet"

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Makes more sense! My foreign ears aren't as good at picking these things up I guess.

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Much as I like Patrick White's books, he's certainly not the easiest of writers even for native English speakers. So if you're reading him in English, when English isn't your first language....I'm impressed!

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Thankyou! It wasn't an easy task.

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White is a difficult but rewarding writer with an extremely dry sense of humour ... for an idea of his lighter, more comic writing, I suggest, from his book of short stories, "The Burnt Ones": "Moss Slattery's Demon Love"; "Willy Wagtails By Moonlight" and "A Cheery Soul". His most lightweight and accessible novel is probably "The Twyborn Affair" ... His greatest serious novels are: "The Vivisector", "Voss", The Eye Of The Storm" and "The Solid Mandala and the early, poetic, mystifying short novel, "The Aunt's Story".

But you ARE Blanche ... and I AM.

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My favorites:

The Aunt's Story

The Solid Mandala

The Vivisector

Voss

The Twyborn Affair

The Burnt Ones, (short stories)

His stories are usually tragic, but often told with a dry as dust sense of irony and black humour.









But you ARE Blanche ... and I AM.

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No spoilers, please - but for those who have read Vivisector - I found the ending, I mean, the very last paragraph, absolutely breath-taking (gorgeous)!


"Geoffrey Rush - The Thinking Woman's Crumpet"

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It's interesting to read other people's thoughts on Patrick White and his work. As 'The Eye of the Storm' has yet be released in Britain, and my curiosity got the better of me, I picked up the book - my first venture into Patrick White's work and Australian literature.

It took me a little while to get into the style of writing. The stream of consciousness is such that there were many instances of run-on lines (it took some time to get over being irritated at missing punctuation and wanting to tidy up the text - or maybe I just had a wildly misprinted copy, lol!). Also, it took concentration to work out what was meant literally and what was implied via metaphor, as well keeping up with the focus shifting from one character to another. Whilst it sounds like a taxing read, it wasn't that labourious a task; I'd put the book down, and on returning to it, it would take me a page or two to get back into it, but soon I'd find the flow and get lost in the story once again.

I'm interested now to see how it has been adapted for film, especially with the likes of Judy Davies, Charlotte Rampling and Geoffrey Rush involved.

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Try the short stories in The Cockatoos'.

His 600 page full-length novels are deadening.

Patrick White belongs with the Victorian novelists like Henry James and Joseph Conrad where a character takes one full page of text to walk across the room. The omnipresent narrator describes the clothes, the gait, the decor, the thoughts and the motivations while walking across the room.

Eye of the Storm was one of White's last full-length novels when he acknowledged he was losing his strength and his editors didn't have the gumption to tell him he needed to edit this long and prolix piece.

The plot could be told in 30 pages but unfortunately White rambled off in subplots concerning all those annoying servants.

This extremely clumsy film version attempts all the subplots and messes up the essential drama within the 'eye of the storm'.

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