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Kelly McGillis vs Tom Cruise, indisputable proof that Scientology works?


I mean, im not a fan of midget Tom and his extraterrestial bullcrap cult, but what is the deal with Tom and Kelly being a romantic couple in Top Gun, and now Kelly looking old enough to play Tom's grandmother?
Is this crazy arsed proof of the seemingly insane claims of nutcase L.Ron about scientology being able to preserve youth?
Or is it just a extreme case for working out and eating right?
I mean Kelly looks old enough to be Tom's(Skerritt) mother. What gives?


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it's all that *beep* they put on their faces to look prettier. You think those chemicals dont have an adverse affect on the skin?

And gotards: Do you really think lesbians don't get hung up on looks as much as men do? Do you really believe that?

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Well, for starters Kelly McGillis is 5 years older than Tom Cruise. She also doesn't dye her hair whereas Tom Cruise likely does, gray hair ages the appearance of someone considerably. that is why Jamie Lee Curtis appears so much older too.

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Absolute rubbish. I'm a 31 year old woman who still gets asked for ID when purchasing alcohol when the legal age is 18. My boyfriend does not. I'm really into health and fitness, so there goes your answer. It's not about scientology, it's about looking after yourself. I also don't plaster myself in make-up every day because I don't need too, that helps too. Genes are another factor, both my parents look extremely young of their age.

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Also, staying out of the sun, and MOST IMPORTANTLY: don't crinkle up your face unnecessarily, that's what creates and deepens wrinkles over time. I was having some problems with the clarity of my vision, so started squinting on a regular basis to better see details - this started about 7 months ago and I now have visible wrinkles between my eyebrows where the skin VERY SUBTLY gets crinkled when I use my "squinting muscles" where I know for a fact I had none before. (I'm over 30, too, which is a factor, as skin loses elasticity as you age, so this will get exponentially worse without combating the root problem that makes me squint)

Your facial bone structure and the thinness of the skin (on average, women have thinner skin) are also huge determining factors in how your skin will wrinkle.

"It's too late... Always has been, always will be...
Too late."

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Kelly looks great--I don't know what your issue is. However, people do age at different rates, based on genetics, exercise, foods they eat, and even attitude. My roommate died a month ago. She smoked, she'd had four heart attacks, she had high blood sugar, high blood pressure, high cholesterol, COPD, and diabetes. She didn't watch her blood sugar, which was often out of control (she was admitted to the hospital once with a blood sugar of almost 600). She was 49 years old. I am 53 in March, with none of those issues.

My roommate ate a lot of sweets and carbs. She would eat grits for breakfast and Bugles for lunch. She ate canned pasta for many meals, too. She did not care for most meats and she would not eat fish except for tuna. She did not eat vegetables. She did not drink water or milk. The only dairy she got was in ice cream or milk shakes. She also ate to excess. She wouldn't just eat one or two hot dogs for lunch--she'd have four, on buns, loaded with cheese and chili.

We weighed about the same, although her skin was pale and loose on her body, her face was wrinkled, and she had no muscle tone. She sat in front of the computer and chatted all of the time or she was on the phone with friends. I go outside and take the dogs for walks or train them. I have a part-time job on a goat farm where I lift hay bales and do physically-demanding chores. I also process venison during the fall and winter and garden in the spring and summer.

All of her issues ran rampant in her family--with the exception of high blood pressure, none of them run in mine (I don't have high blood pressure). The average age at which a person dies in her family is around 50 and often from diabetic complications. The average age a person dies in my family is in the late 80s, even with high blood pressure.

All of these things, not just make-up use, make a difference in a person's appearance. More than once I was asked about my "mother" when I visited her in the hospital. If she had taken better care of herself, then she might still be with us, but genetics played a large part in everything, not just her appearance.

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Excellent case study, thanks for so concisely laying it out, an awful lot of people would benefit from reading this (and then doing something about it too, obviously! Small differences every day add up to a HUGE difference years down the line - as we know, and you show)

"It's too late... Always has been, always will be...
Too late."

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Proof that whilst Kelly McGillis has grown old gracefully, Tom Cruise desperately holds onto his youth with hair dyes and airbrushes. The guy can't act, why does he have such a huge fanbase? Apart from 'Magnolia,' name me one classic Cruise film that isn't some piece of fluff action *beep*

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Interview With The Vampire? Vanilla Sky? Eyes Wide Shut?

The guy has been in some amazing movies, and yes he can act, obviously.

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Born On The Fourth Of July.



Let Polly do the printing

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1. McGillis is 5 years older than Cruise, and even looked older in Top Gun.
2. Women age faster and meaner than men; however, Kelly doesn't look a day older than her age (late fifties), and wears her years gracefully, including letting her hair grey.
3. ...Unlike Cruise, who has to be the vainest of all Hollywood actors, and clings desperately to a young(ish) look by means of makeup, hair dye, punishing workout, and plastic surgery.




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Don't forget the sky-wizardry.

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I don't know about Tom Skerritt's mother, as Tom Skerritt has looked like he's 90 for about twenty years. LOL. I was a bit shocked when I saw her though, but as an actress that isn't exactly in demand like Tom (Xemu, I mean Cruise, that is, not Skerritt) is, she doesn't really have reason to exercise constantly and have plastic surgery and such. Also, in this film, I think they made her look a bit older as well. It still was a bit shocked, though, as I said, thinking back to Top Gun.

I thought she looked old and Sara Paxton looked hot. So either I'm unrealistic, or a dirty old man. Perhaps both. LOL.


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Plus, I think you're all forgetting one thing ... Kelly is a mom. I know, I know, Tom is a dad, too ... but dads seem to be able to compartmentalize better and of course often have helpmates who take on the day-to-day raising of the children, dad gets to see them at night when he gets home from work and toss them in the air or throw a ball back and forth. I found myself shockingly comparing myself to Kelly ... thank you everyone for the kind words about her looks; I agree, in some views she didn't look so bad and she was absolutely perfect for the role, kudos casting ... and remember that after my daughter was born, my interest in myself formerly probably one of trying to attract men, went out the window. Unfortunately, it has only lately come back when it's an uphill battle to even think of getting back to where I was before.

My guess though is that in real life, Kelly probably never really cared that much about makeup.

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Excellent point, Ollie.






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just cause tom cruise appears to not have any grey hairs, people say he must dye it, ok, well i cant say in his case, he may well do, or he may not, some......some people don't grey just cause of their age

prime example being my father, he is late sixties and has his own, natural dark brown hair, no grey (and i know that he doesn't dye it, that would be far too metrosexual for him)

then there is me, 30 years younger than him, with streaks of grey and have had it since my twenties, it looks overall dark brown, but my point is i have more grey hair than my dad!!! it's crazy

so it could be, that tomothy cruizer has all his own hair, everyone is different

but just to stay on topic here, i have to admit i found kelly mcgillis distracting, because i kept thinking back to my boyhood lusting after her in top gun in the mid eighties, then looking at her in this film, too jarring, and sad, and scary, scarier than the actual film!



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Man, that sucks so much, doesn't it? When your decades-older father has better, younger-looking hair than you?
I know your pain, brother, my father didn't have a single grey hair in his late forties, yet I started greying (beard, especially) in my 30s, but MUCH WORSE than this, I started balding around 18-19 and not just around the top, but a greatly receding hairline too - I'm getting it from all sides, dammit! By the time I was 23 there was no hiding it, yet he still had all his (dark) hair (albeit thinning a little) in his late 40s! His father still had all his hair too when he died in his early 60s, and so did my maternal grandfather (though he was fully grey/white by 60) but WTF is it with that "hair loss/ male pattern baldness is genetic / it often skip a generation" bullcrap? I'm a perfect case of a total exception! (And no, I'm definitely not adopted) Argh, I'm so pissed off, I really did lose the "genetic lottery" when it came to hair.

I sort of agree with you about Kelly, too, I didn't even recognize her, as I hadn't seen her face in decades, but the more I saw her, the more familiar she became, then the thunderbolt came "Oh, no! That looks like Kelly McGillis! Can it really be her??" It took me a few more minutes looking intently at her face to confirm it to myself, and even then I had to FULLY confirm it by checking imdb - that's how startling it was, even once I'd realized it, I still couldn't quite let myself really believe it!
I too lusted after her as a teenager in Top Gun and in Witness... (it should be said that those films were already a few years old when I was a teen, though).

Truly, the ravages of time on a beautiful woman is such a heartbreaking thing for so many reasons: a hard-hitting reminder of our own mortality, of our decline, of losing our magnificence, the needless destruction of something so beautiful, the inexorable passage of time... and I speak as someone who actually advocates growing old gracefully - Catherine Deneuve, Raquel Welch... it does happen now and again in the acting world - and while I don't think Kelly's face is a horror show (not the way some actors and actresses who get extensive plastic surgery end up) but just a naturally, normally aged face, it still startled and saddened me greatly.

"It's too late... Always has been, always will be...
Too late."

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Shes still gorgeous.
Shes aged normally without all the surgery and botex everyone else seems to get when they hit their 50s.

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