Yet his own wife, son, and best friend don't recognize him? More ridiculous than Clark Kent and Superman without glasses and a hair spike in the front.
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Sorry, nothing is more ridiculous than Clark Kent/Superman glasses thing (although Chris Reeve did as much as he could with it).
shareCome on, Superman has a twirl in his hair and is confident. Kent has glasses and is clumsy. Can it get any more different? :-p
There are actually those who say that the glasses have a hypnotic power that makes people visualize Kent differently, or those who say that as Superman he twitches his super muscles so fast, nobody can see his face.
I do agree that Reeve did the best with what he had, but it is very silly, yes.
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In the second Kirk Alyn Superman serial, Atom Man vs. Superman (1950), it becomes clear that Lois, Jimmy and Perry all realize that Clark Kent is Superman, but don't tell anyone, or even him, since it's so important to him to keep his identity secret.
In an episode of the George Reeves Superman series, Clark and Inspector Henderson are trapped in a locked, darkened garage with carbon monoxide coming out of a car they can't shut off. Clark hops out of the car and pulls open the door to the . Henderson asks him how in blazes he opened a locked garage door, and Clark says he used a little trick that Superman taught him. Henderson exclaims, "I swear Kent! Sometimes I think you ARE Superman!"
At the end of Superman I with Christopher Reeve, Lois realizes that she never sees Clark and Superman at the same time. By the start of Superman II, she's realized that Clark IS Superman.
In Lois and Clark, when Clark proposes to Lois, Lois says, "Who's asking me: Clark Kent, or Superman?"
I need corrective lenses, but I can't put in contacts and I'm afraid that if I put on classes, nobody will ever recognize me again. Certainly The Tick won't.
Kinda like when Steven Urkel turned into Stefan. I couldn't tell it was the same actor!
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In addition to the thorough whoopin' give to you below, right after the Death of Superman storyline in the 90s, they staged a photo op of Clark Kent (real Superman) and the shapeshifter Supergirl (as Superman) together. That put to rest any suspicions of Clark Kent being Superman.
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Prince Adams/He-Man thing is more ridiculous.
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shareEh, the difference here is that everyone believes he's dead.
And at least he does have a complete mask and cloak on...
Still, with each passing episode where he interacts with his family it
does become a bit tougher to swallow that they wouldn't recognize his voice..
The mask only covers his eyes and forehead, the lower half of his face is still exposed.
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"The mask only covers his eyes and forehead, the lower half of his face is still exposed. "
Eh, admittedly some suspension of disbelief is required for ANY costume
like this to work.
It's like the classic Robin mask with the addition of the cloak.
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And somehow in the final episode he "unmasks" by removing the cowl of the cape, but not the actual mask (i.e. just exposing his hair), and Marty suddenly recognizes him. Hmmmm...
shareWell, it's a bit easier if you tell him first.
shareIn the first episode he doesn't have a mask when he first visits his family, right? It's just the hood, the outfit, the cape, and I suppose his child's belief that he's looking at The Cape.
Also, The Cape happens to know a lot about his dad and talk like he's channeling his dad... on one hand, it's very corny, but on the other it's kinda endearing and gets across the point... Cape wants his family back.
A point that seems to get muddied and lost across the next nine episodes.
The other thing with Superman, is that he has powers and abilities no ordinary man could have. So Clark's resemblance to Supes is not enough, because no one would assume from looks alone that he could fly or stop bullets. And no one besides Lois or possibly Jimmy would even see both Clark and Superman often enough to draw any kind of connection. That's a big part of why the identity works, even though it's so silly.
I implore anyone to try and tell who their friends are in photographs with just the mouth and chin present. That's difficult all by itself (and should be nigh impossible). There is also the fact that many people sound alike. It's not impossible to believe that someone can put on a mask and hood and be completely unrecognizable.
shareBut The Cape got face to face with his old best friend. I think I would recognize that.
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I have, it's easy - Every year, various friends post a bunch of photos on Facebook from Halloween parties and with the popularity of Superhero movies, half masks are common. Yet I somehow always pick my friends out of these pictures very easily.
Better yet... I remember back in 2009, this guy I knew back in high school posted a picture from a party where he had a bunch of costumed girls pose for a group photo. I had absolutely no way of knowing most of them, but there was this one girl in a Batgirl costume (with the proper half-mask and everything) who was leaning over and had her head tilted to the camera. As I was looking at the whole group photo I said to myself; "Wait is that so-and-so? Yeah, that is so-and-so!" And sure enough it was who I thought it was and I hadn't seen that person, at all, since high school (a bunch of years back).
So, I'm sorry, but I don't relate to your idea that it's supposed to be difficult to figure out who your friends are if they were wearing a The Cape type mask. Plus, the whole thing with The Cape's identity was especially amusing when he interacted with his wife, for the first time, as they only recently got done showing us a flashback where Vince was making a huge deal about how his son had his chin. Because of that, I was especially focused on his chin when he first appeared to his wife, in that rooftop scene. Normally, I could try to ignore the identity thing, but that scene and the scene with his partner were kind of difficult to get past.
I suppose, that in the Superman universe only a few people would recognise Superman only by looking at his face. The most recognisable atributes are his red cape and the S logo on his chest. When people look at Superman, they see those things and not his face - the bright colours of his costume effectively catch the eye - away from his face. So with glasses and different hair style Kent's true identity would stay hidden.
shareRight and it’s not like people ever see him for more than a second so that they would have the time to look him over fully and it’s not like there aren’t people who see and talk to him time and time again. Good thing, too, it's not like he's constantly in front of a camera as that would result in his image being plastered on TV/newspapers/magazines/posters where people can stare at just his face for hours (or glance at it after seeing Clark walking down the street and wondering why he looks so familiar). It's also not like there are people such as Lois who are so in love with him that all they do in dreamily stare at his face during his heroics and then go to work and end up sitting across from Clark's mug all day.
shareThere's no way it's more unbelievable than Clark Kent. Not a chance.
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The problem with Superman/Clark Kent is that he hangs out with the same group of people as both identities. Tons of people look like famous people, but their friends and co-workers don't think they're the famous person in disguise. So Clark's disguise would actually make sense if he didn't dress up in tights and flirt with the woman who works at the desk next to his.
There's a security guard where I work who kind of looks like Jimmy Smits, but I don't think Jimmy Smits is moonlighting as a security guard at my office building. Then again, if the real Jimmy Smits were constantly dropping by for some reason, and the security guard was never around when that happened, I might start to think something was up.
I know we'll disagree on a few points here but I'm going to state my case anyway.
Superman is set in a completely different universe. Throughout the history of the comic book his powers has ranged from leaping tall buildings and running faster than a speeding train to moving planets and traveled faster than light.
Vince is a cop who has learned a bunch of carnival tricks in order to pose as a superhero from his kids comic books. Essentially: A "real" guy attempting to be a superhero. So there's that. There's a difference in power and setting that is no less than stellar.
In the more recent comic books Superman and Clark Kent genuinely appear to be completely different persons. Clark Kent appears flabby and clumsy. This leads me to the purpose of Superman's alter ego. Essentially he's hiding that he is Superman. Clark Kent's over-the-top awkwardness makes it unbelievable that he would ever be the guy who can push around continents or even planets. Clark Kent is basically Superman's disguise. His role as Clark Kent is mostly to convince everyone that he's too much of a coward to ever be Superman.
For Vince it's the other way around. The Cape is an attempt to hide his true identity. The thing is that he is this hero cop to begin with. He already has a confident posture, dominant voice and that "energy" as he does as The Cape. He makes very little effort to disguise those traits or alter his voice.
It could of course also be a matter of execution. Perhaps David Lyons simply isn't that good of an actor. Because Christian Bale pulled off the transformation from Wayne to Batman pretty good. So there might be that too.
Be honest how many superheros actually have a costume that would hid them from their true identities? Superman no already been discussed, Batman? sure he wears a cape and cowl that covers almost his entire face but would it really keep anyone from figuring it out?
A few that work Spiderman covers everything. Shazam is the best because his alter ego is a teenage boy or maybe Thor when he shared the body of Donald Blake. Ironman would be good but honestly how may other good ones are out there where it would be near impossible to figure out who was behind the mask.
The Hulk looks nothing like Banner in any of the versions I've seen. The Fantastic Four (with the exception of Mr. Fantastic) can easily disguise themselves (turning invisible or into flame is pretty convincing, and of course the Thing always looks like that so he doesn't have a choice.) Any superhero/villain with shape-shifting powers of course. There's of course "The Mask", who looks like a cartoon with the mask on - nobody would ever get that one. I'm just listing the obvious ones that have had major theater releases, of course - there's probably thousands of obscure ones in comic books.
Really more ridiculous than either Kent/Superman or Vince/Cape is Chess - he just puts in some fancy chess-piece shaped contacts and glares at the camera a lot. How has nobody figured that one out? (Okay, he used to have a mask, but he stopped using it after the first episode, so there's no excuse anymore.)
Well, I think that the Hulk's and the Fantastic Four's identities are publicly known, so there is no need for a disguise. The same thing with Iron Man/Tony Stark.
Bruce Wayne on the other hand is a very rich and influential figure in his world. There is no need for him to dress-up as a bat and roam the streets at night as a vigilantee. The most likely candidate for Batman or any other masked hero would be an ex-cop or a soldier, maybe someone with criminal history or a well trained idealist. No one would suspect a man that has virtualy everything to risk his life fighting crime.
The Cape on the other hand is exactly what would people expect. A cop dressing up and fighting crime - someone is bound to connect the dots and find out, who the hero realy is.
Clark Kent's over-the-top awkwardness makes it unbelievable that he would ever be the guy who can push around continents or even planets.This is why I firmly consider Michael Keaton to be the best Batman. No one would ever think his Bruce Wayne could be a crime fighter. Anyone can act like a coward or some indifferent playboy, but his Bruce Wayne seemed to be not quite all there, like someone slightly developmentally disabled, smart enough to maintain his fortune but just barely. Add a full-body costume and that's a superhero disguise.
When you answer the phone, don't you recognize your friends and family right away? I do.
So why don't these close people recognize Cape's voice?
Too stoopid for me. Hope they make room for a better program.
One of the ridiculous ones not mentioned yet is Wonder Woman> She basically puts on a afncy bathing soit and takes off her glasses and noone recognizes her. I know people look different in a bathing suit but come on.
shareThe Wonder Woman case is quite plausible: as soon as she appears in the suit, no bystander looks her in the face; they all gaze at her curves.
(I'm just joking, in case it isn't obvious :)
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All they know is: Vincent is dead
With this "fact" enbedded in their psyche the mind can't rationalize Vince = Cape unless it can first bypass/overcome the initial rationalization that the dead can't come back to life or Vince didn't die.
The mind does not usually work backwards: Cape = Vince therefore Vincent is alive.
well having watched a couple of episodes i never thought about him been reconised cause after all its about a guy wearing a super cape...lol...i hear its been canned...wont be missed
shareNobody recognizes him, because the actor playing The Cape is so bland, that he could be anyone. Also, Christian Bale has the added bonus of post-production voice-alteration to improve his disguise ;-)
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