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such a RIDICULOUS ending (spoilers)

posted 12 years ago by haorao
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I came on this board specifically to see if anyone else commented on this, but i wanted to draw special attention to it.

this was a wicked movie (for what it was). fun ride, not expecting to win awards, etc. I knew what i was in for after that first bike chase with the shoddy CGI. and i accepted all the other impossibilities along the way and enjoyed them.

THEN, you see the 2 main characters jump out of the doomed space prison, and apparently these space suits are designed to allow re-entry into earth's atmosphere.

AND, not only are these suits capable of re-entry, the suits burst open and you have a parachute underneath, which drops the people gently down onto the ground. this clear defiance of physics was so hilarious i almost cheered. did anyone notice how slowly they landed when the scene cut to the landing??

i love how it seems like the editor saw this and thought...i know it looks super fake, but i don't give a crap. print it!

haha, great movie.

[–] megoobee 12 years ago

Actually, in Jason X, Brodski did a similar thing riding on the back of Jason. He didn't survive re-entry though.

Speaking of which, even if it was possible to design a suit that could withstand the extreme temperatures, anything inside of it would be cooked. You don't need a PHD in thermodynamics to understand how much internal cooling would be needed to offset the generated heat.

[–] Lunchbox-3 12 years ago

So one guy survived re-entry burn and one didn't and they were similar? I'd say the burn in Jason X was more similar to the ending of Dark Star and the survival and parachute landing in Lockout was more similar to the one in Heavy Metal.

[–] Roy_Batty_Nexus6 11 years ago

I laughed at loud at the suits and parachute ending.

And not only that, when they discard the suits they're still at an incredible height, which hazarding a guess looked to me like the troposphere, so they would have lost conciousness through lack of oxygen, been frozen stiff, and they would have been dead immediately. Yes, it was a very silly ending.

''All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain .... Time to die''.

[–] Karnivore 11 years ago

Look at the technology within the film... and THAT's what you had beef with?

[–] swat_ghost_sniper 11 years ago

Trolling through these boards late night and I came across this. Have none of you heard of Redbull Stratos? Felix Baumgartner? Skydive from the edge of space?

The only real flaws with this movie's "skydive" are the lack of a tumble. That, and like another poster said, likely loss of consciousness due to lack of oxygen. But considering how they sped up all of the physics in the movie, it fits within the rules of the universe that they'd be in breathable air by then...

Full Video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dOoHArAzdug

Jump Point
http://youtu.be/dOoHArAzdug?t=2m48s

http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2012/02/would-the-stratos-space-jump-be-similar-to-reentry/

[–] Celeno 11 years ago

Have none of you heard of Redbull Stratos? Felix Baumgartner? Skydive from the edge of space?

Felix jumped out from a balloon hovering stationary above Earth. Why this is important will be apparent in my next sentence.

The only real flaws with this movie's "skydive" are the lack of a tumble. That, and like another poster said, likely loss of consciousness due to lack of oxygen. But considering how they sped up all of the physics in the movie, it fits within the rules of the universe that they'd be in breathable air by then...

Unlike the Redbull Stratos balloon from which Felix jumped out of, the ISS is orbiting the Earth in low Earth orbit, same orbit as the MS One, which requires a speed of about 28000 km/h, 17500 mph or 7500 m/s.

You can see how physics makes it a little bit different jumping out of the MS One comparing to jumping out of a balloon, and "lack of a tumble" is not it.

[–] swat_ghost_sniper 11 years ago

I understand the issues with the physics of the reentering space station, but the terminal velocity of both are radically different, not to mention, the MS One station was falling out of orbit (it was no longer in the same orbit as the ISS)

So they slow down, but the lower surface area of the body results in less deceleration forces. Not to mention the fact that if you jump out of a moving plane, you slow down to terminal velocity no matter the speed of travel prior to leaving the vessel (plane, balloon, fictional space stations 60 years in the future). There will be forward movement, but it will cease to be a factor rather quickly when there is no thrust being generated by the falling object.

This all also fails to take into account the potential advances in heat resistant materials that far into the future. We're already leaps and bounds ahead of where we were even just a decade or two ago. The suits were clearly there for the purpose of an emergency jump, so who's to say that they don't have the tech anyways?

Bringing up Stratos was in respect to the fact that the argument was being made that you couldn't jump from that height because you'd burn up. Barring the movement speed of the MS One (wasn't it held in geostationary orbit until they shot up the controls and the engineer who could fix it?), it is a completely doable jump, especially in half a century.

[–] seans_life 11 years ago

Anything is possible OP and this is the future we are talking about.

[–] patrick-413 10 years ago

Agreed, OP: the ending was one of the stupidest pieces of storytelling I'd ever seen. Nothing in the tech throughout the entire movie suggested that suits were in existence that could, relatively easily, take you from orbit to re-entry. Even the apparent artificial gravity they'd somehow invented was more plausible.

Ever see "Shoot 'em Up"? The scene towards the end where they jump out of the president's plane is just about as implausible... and THAT was a comedy! If "Lockout" had been presented as a comedy up until that point, then the re-entry suits might have been a funny punch line. But as it stands... the bad icing on a very forgettable cake.

[–] bergneil 9 years ago

Considering it took place in low orbit, the space diving suits was quite up to date actually, scientifically speaking. The movie is from 2012, this article is from 2013:

http://www.space.com/21370-space-diving-suit.html

Halleliejah!

[–] carpener-606-111297 9 years ago

It´s a fuc*ing movie ! Do you question *beep* movies like Avatar aswell ?!

[–] xDracavelix 8 years ago

I know right... Like its a movie dude. Not a documentary.