i got am impression he cussed at Sergei going kinda "B!tch, b!tch, b!tch you are", prolly 'cause the fish was tempered with somehow, oversalted or something.
That made him go and 'return the favour' in a way.
I still dont completely get it. If it was bones he choked on (which it looked like he did) how is the other guy responsible for there being bones in a fish? And how were the fish hanging from the building different from the fish in the freezer? He was just overreacting, right?
And, btw, my copy translated suka suka suka to a$$hole(x3). Yours said b|tch?
I still dont completely get it. If it was bones he choked on (which it looked like he did) how is the other guy responsible for there being bones in a fish? And how were the fish hanging from the building different from the fish in the freezer? He was just overreacting, right?
Well, i wish i knew for sure, but the real reason might have ended up on the cutting room floor.
Maybe he was overreacting, maybe the fish was tampered with. Might have to watch the scene again but didn't he sink his teeth into the juiciest bit, then spat it out?
And, btw, my copy translated suka suka suka to a$$hole(x3). Yours said b|tch?
Just watched it last night. A bit of discussion took place about the key scenes, including the fish scene. Most felt that Pavel had reached such a paranoid state by the time he ate the fish that he blamed Sergei for the bone that was caught in his throat. There was nothing actually wrong with the fish. Further, we all thought that had Sergei actually wanted to kill Pavel the experienced Arctic man could have done it in a flash. When Pavel returned to the hut adn noted that the weapons were empty of ammunition it was not because Sergei had used it all but because he had not wanted Pavel to sneak back and shoot him!
Good call (better than the 'bone' version) albeit in real life scenario where such a station was concerned it's highly unlikely that Pavel would receive a dose high enough to start displaying the symptoms of acute radiation syndrome.
For those who don't know what those things are, check here: Radioisotope thermoelectric generator (RTG, RITEG)
In addition to spacecraft, the Soviet Union constructed many unmanned lighthouses and navigation beacons powered by RTGs. Powered by Strontium 90 (90Sr), they are very reliable and provide a steady source of power. However, critics argue that they could cause environmental and security problems, as leakage or theft of the radioactive material could pass unnoticed for years (or possibly forever: some of these lighthouses cannot be found because of poor record keeping). There has even been an instance where the radioactive compartments were opened by a thief. There was also the case of three woodcutters in Georgia who came across one of these units and slept close to it as a heat source during a cold night. They were later hospitalized with severe radiation burns.The unit was eventually recovered and isolated.
There are approximately 1,000 such RTGs in Russia. All of them have long exhausted their 10-year engineered life spans. They are likely no longer functional, and may be in need of dismantling. Some of them have become the prey of metal hunters, who strip the RTGs' metal casings, regardless of the risk of radioactive contamination. ....
Many Beta-M RTGs produced by the Soviet Union to power lighthouses and beacons have become orphaned sources of radiation. Several of these units have been illegally dismantled for scrap metal resulting in the complete exposure of the Sr-90 source, fallen into the ocean, or have defective shielding due to poor design or physical damage.
Not sure what 'poor design' they are on about, them things are built like tanks so unless they're seriously violated by idiots for scrap metal(500kg of stainless steel, aluminum and lead) with special tools or explosives etc and left to rot, they are safe.
Pavel would have to live on it for weeks to get a critical dose. Ok, so they used it as a plot device with Geiger counter going mad and all but since it was a secure location with no passing 'treasure hunter' traffic, the protective casing should've been intact leaking a negligible amount of radiation, not even enough to 'poison' that fish as it transpires. That Geiger counter would've gotten poisoned too, if that was the case.
i've hit Ruskie movie forums to get to the bottom of it and read some interesting bits and pieces about the whole shebang leading to some new angles to the story.
Bear in mind that Pavel comes across as a bit of a rogue modern tosser, playing S.T.A.L.K.E.R. instead of taking readings and all, so in all fairness, he wouldn't know much about radiation anyway if he really believed that the fish would become poisonous if 'smoked' there. If fish was sprinkled with exposed strontium or polonium, then yes but not the 'radiation' plot device.
Sergey, the old school professional, on the other hand, would know better than that, so in the end when Pavel comes clean and Sergey goes kinda "well, don't tell anybody about it", it's unclear if he's concerned about Pavel showing off his scientific ignorance.
Some people in the know claim that the way fish was prepared and salted(with heads still attached) has little to do with real life, but that's minor methinks.
Also, that particular fish (Golets/July) season is not sitting well with Pavel's finding any eggs ('eggs' are flying by then).
To sum up, at that particular station the radioisotope thermoelectric generator was supposed to be intact, giving off less power as it was well past its 'best before' date, but still safe to be around unless Pavel was ripping it apart in his spare time, of course.
And if it was somehow leaking badly(the station or the device would've been evacuated then), why the heck he slept next to it, then tried to 'wipe radiation' from his clothes, another ridiculous scientific moment.
I was thinking that if the RTG emissions were strong enough to warm Pavel up after his tumble into the ocean, they were enough to give him a fatal dose.
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It seems that RTGs of that particular type do run quite hot (up to 600C), but ionising radiation it emanates is a different kettle of irradiated fish altogether.
A device with intact outer shielding reads up to 0.5 mRem/h on its surface, much less so if one sits one meter away from it. Pavel said something about it getting worse at 400 Rem/h dose-equivalent which would've been way OTT and given him serious trouble IRL if exposed for too long -50% of a fatal dose an hour.
Pavel stood there above the 'hole' for 5-6 minutes so his head and hands would've been exposed mostly. That short exposure was unlikely to give him a fatal dose.
Thing is, from what i read, the worst case so far happened when one unit was found badly leaking after seemingly being cracked open by a tracked vehicle and left behind, and it read from upto 87 Rem/h.
So, a good dose of poetic license seems to be at play here.
Some people in the know claim that the way fish was prepared and salted(with heads still attached) has little to do with real life, but that's minor methinks.
Not to mention the fact that hanging them outdoors in the open would have risked attracting bears.
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Yeah, I thought the same, it was because Pasha got exposed to radiation, and since he blamed Sergey for that, he decided to contaminate the fish as an appropriate revenge, well and also a self-defence really.
I still dont completely get it. If it was bones he choked on (which it looked like he did) how is the other guy responsible for there being bones in a fish? And how were the fish hanging from the building different from the fish in the freezer? He was just overreacting, right?
Pavel blames Sergei for the situation that he is in. He has been shot out, drenched with freezing water, subjected to a dose of radiation, and deprived of food. He fears for his life. When Pavel gets the fish bone stuck in his throat, of course he curses Sergei because of all that has happened. If it were not for Sergei's behavior, Pavel would not be ravenously gnawing on a dried fish.
Under the circumstances, it is hard to see Pavel cursing Sergei as an overreaction.
Contaminating the fish is not something that would occur to Sergei. If he really wanted to kill Pavel, he would track him down and do it.
P. S. I think Pavel is saying something like this when he contaminates the fish: "All of this is because of your damn fish. I almost choked on one of your damn fish. I hope your damn fish kill you."
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"P. S. I think Pavel is saying something like this when he contaminates the fish: "All of this is because of your damn fish. I almost choked on one of your damn fish. I hope your damn fish kill you."
Yes, in fact just before he finally tells Sergey his family is dead he says that "all this is because of your trout". Even then he somehow blames the whole thing on Sergey's desire for fish. It makes sense then that as his mind deteriorates he sees the fish as appropriate to use for his revenge.
Yes, in fact just before he finally tells Sergey his family is dead he says that "all this is because of your trout". Even then he somehow blames the whole thing on Sergey's desire for fish. It makes sense then that as his mind deteriorates he sees the fish as appropriate to use for his revenge.
There is a logic to Pavel's blaming the fish. Sergei was not supposed to be off fishing. But he was, and so he was neither there to take the call, nor could Pavel explain that he wasn't there. (Obviously, Pavel should have explained the situation once he heard about Sergei's family, but he does not know what to do, and he doesn't.)If Sergei isn't off fishing, none of this happens. Of course, if Pavel explains that Sergei is off fishing, none of this happens either._______________For easy markup see http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/42255 reply share
I thought at first perhaps Sergei had poisoned the fish knowing that Pash was close by and would probably steal it. Clearly that wasn't the case and I think Pash was just venting his frustration at him perceiving that Sergei was trying to kill him, thus forcing him to live rough and then eat raw fish.
Interestingly, my subs said *beep* rather than "bitch".
I've read through all the debate on this thread, but I thought it was obvious he was choking on a bone. Anyone who's ever eaten trout before will know they have extremely fine bones, which can be difficult to see and can easily get lodged in your throat. You need to be very careful when eating trout.
I thought it was obvious he was choking on a bone.
I agree. I also thought it was obvious that he was choking on a bone. He is ravenous, and he's just stuffing the fish into his mouth without removing the bones._______________For easy markup see http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/42255 reply share
Exactly! If you watch the scene again, he is eating so damn fast! First thing I said when I was watching this was "DONT EAT SO FAST! IT MIGHT BE TASTY BUT YOU WILL CHOKE!".
I have had some close calls with trout myself and the bones they have.
On my DVD, the subtitles came up, *beep* *beep* *beep* I thought maybe Pavel was cursing himself for not looking out for the bones and so he was angry with himself for choking on one.