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One of those movies that are just....

posted 11 years ago by baconbit
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excuse to get a young actress to be naked a lot under the guise of "art" so pretentious people will say how daring it was in a futile attempt to try to make their "taste" in movies superior to others. But the reality is, this is just a dumb plot, made up solely to have ways to get her naked. These plots are basically out of a "soft porn-o-matic" script writing machine. In this case, it landed on hooker (with a heart of gold), and the typical aimless existence of that generation today and a dying drug addict friend as the conflict to add the artsy factorPut it all together and you can talk actresses looking for their bigbreak to shed their clothes for half the film.

[–] CarpeDiemO_O 11 years ago

Heart of gold? You obviously haven't seen the movie. Her character is not some sweet person, but someone who didn't really give a sh!t about herself. Her character didn't exactly inspire sympathy. Not until the end anyway.

[–] moviehawg59 11 years ago

I think she did have a "heart of gold", but ... only for her ex's drug-addicted/alcoholic/dying brother! She DID truly care about him ... just NOT herself! She spent the whole movie almost in a daze, with no concern whatsoever for her own body. But, I do believe the dying friend was the ONLY thing she truly cared about!

[–] FreeFallFlow 11 years ago

excuse to get a young actress to be naked a lot under the guise of "art" so pretentious people will say how daring it was in a futile attempt to try to make their "taste" in movies superior to others. But the reality is, this is just a dumb plot, made up solely to have ways to get her naked. These plots are basically out of a "soft porn-o-matic" script writing machine.

Totally agree on that. I didn't see any point besides the nudity.
Is the director a lesbian? Who cares anyways...
Waste of time and tape.

1/10 (I would have given it a 0, but that's not possible)

[–] MarshallStax 11 years ago

baconbit - if that's what you got out of the movie, then I guess we see movies differently. I saw a metaphoric tale about people who sleep their way through life and hopefully wake themselves up in the end before it's too late.

The nudity was incredibly un-sexy (and was not presented in a soft-core type way) and the film was written and directed by a woman.

Did you notice that the visual style (specifically the way scenes were blocked, photographed and edited) was more or less a tribute to Kubrick?

And I'm not sure where you got the "heart of gold" bit; this girl had no heart at all and was portrayed more as a lost soul who had no connection to anything or anybody, except a dying person.

Maybe it's just me. I see a movie like "Lost in Translation" and I see a nausea- inducing plotless bit of tripe about a crybaby child of privilege meeting a washed up actor with no amount of charm at all in Tokyo. Why Tokyo? Because it would look cool.

Other people got a lot more out of it, I guess.

All Art is pretense.

[–] Xcalat3 11 years ago

I have to agree with the op this is an "empty" movie and it seems like a dumb excuse to show nudism. not that i have a problem with that its just that it would help f the movie had some substance to it.

When there's no more room in hell, The dead will walk the earth...

[–] zharth 11 years ago

Which is sad, because this is an actress who looks really good naked. She deserves a better film than this one to be naked in.

[–] The_Mob_Has_Spoken 10 years ago

I like the movie but I generally agree with the OP (and I don't go for waifish young pixie type girls either so it's not like this was fap material for me).

A couple points, however:

- Lucy didn't have a heart of gold. She was a selfish little bitch, incapable of consciously feeling love (though perhaps through no fault of her own). The audience is meant to enjoy her humiliation and degradation to at least some degree. I really only felt sorry for Lucy in two scenes, but even then she willingly put herself into those two situations.

- A case could be made that Lucy/"Sara" was not a prostitute per se. Certainly not in the legal sense. In the legal sense she was actually a victim (she was not awake to consent to those creepy old bastards groping her, etc.). Or in the moral sense either. She was in a sedated slumber, after all. Now yes, it is also fairly obvious what the gig entailed, but "no penetration," remember? However, any adult could have figured out that there was something sexual going on.

"Ass to ass. Ha ha ha ha. ASS TO ASS!"; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oa5z77EI8y0

[–] lazarillo 10 years ago

Why for every person actually saying that a film is "art" because it has sex in it, are there about a hundred people saying it's pretentious drivel because it has sex in it? It's getting to be like a straw-man argument where you're refuting something no one is actually saying. There are certainly movies that are pretentious drivel, but that's because they ARE pretentious drivel, not because they have sex in them. If you put any sex in movies, you're either making "porn" or if you insist you're not, you're some elitist making pretentious art films. Is there no other possibility? It's really tiresome.

This is a flawed movie, but not un-interesting. I think Emily Browning is beautiful and I don't mind seeing her naked, but I didn't watch this movie so I could "fap". This movie isn't really about sex. It's about the unformed naivete of the young and despair and regrets of the old. It doesn't entirely accomplish its ambitious aims in my opinion, but calling something "pretentious" is sometimes just code for "I don't understand it".

[–] asherrod 8 years ago

Penetration is not a requirement of prostitution. Go tell a police officer you paid someone for oral sex or a hand job and see how long you are walking around free.

Also, even if she was unconscious at the time, she made the agreement to provide her unconscious body for the use of the men. She did that while conscious, and so, if someone so desired, a case for some form of prostitution could be made. Probably would run into real legal problems, but just being asleep at the time is not the problem.

For example, if you pick up a woman, tell her "I will pay $X for sex" and she says "only if I am knocked out", it is still prostitution. So, her state at the time does not change, in a legal sense, what is going on.