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You are the worst loser idiot if you won't see the HOAX


*** This review may contain spoilers ***

IT IS A HOAX. 100% HOAX. NO DOUBTS WHATSOEVER. I don't know, are way too many people so stupid, and insist on their stupidity, doggedly, aggressively, falsely, OR, is there a movement of cheeky individuals who think they are being smart by letting you fall for the hoax, (because it may SEEM that you would gain more by being duped!?). Post modernity at its very finest. The documentary that is, not many of the reviewers, unfortunately. It is the finest, best crafted hoax I have ever come across in my entire life. Congratulations Banksy, you are a king of sorts. England would be a fine country if only more englishmen (were intelligent enough) and used their incredible arrogance as he does. People, it is a hoax. So good that I will admit that I was duped. But only because I had never even heard of Banksy or Fairey or MBW, and due to (bad habit of mine) I started smashing out a reply WHILE watching*. (Do you have that mental dexterity to watch something, digesting and read or write something else, or play an online game at the same time? For me, watching the entire 6 series of Lost is only worthwhile if doing something else at the same time, for example). My 1st review was interested in dissecting post modernity, more than the film itself. Unfortunately I submitted my 1st review b4 I even finished watching, and hadn't even bothered to reflect if it were true or not, (oh the extreme power of what can be contained within the 4 walls of video, we hand ourselves over so entirely - look at how many idiots CONTINUE to talk about the film as "real"). By the end, it was obvious that it was a hoax - the ladder falling incident was the hugely ridiculous, final give away. I didn't think about it at the time, not paying much attention AND I was not manipulated emotionally, but the story of his Mum dying (hence the video addiction) is beyond ridiculous. Wake up. Sure, Thierry Guetta has skin and bones. I doubt seriously that that is his real name, although it could be. OBVIOUSLY, he is part of the post modern hoax and experiment, NOT A BIG DEAL that he even does shows! (Fools). I said it was the GREATEST HOAX ever. You think it is way too elaborate!? Wrong! James Guetta Cameron has a FAR more elaborate hoax - one man, zillions of dollars, even more, brainless fans PAYING!?!?! for his super mediocre films, AVATAR & TITANIC. I cannot even stand them in one sitting, & don't try to blame my post modern, lack of attention span. On the other hand, I watched 'Betty Blue, trent sept deux le matin' EXTENDED (plus de 3 hrs), 'Une Prophete', even Spielberg's 'Empire of The Sun', without blinking. Yes, French films are generally better. Take 'Tell No One', with ALL the Hollywood triggers and twists, yet somehow, far superior to its Holly Would equivalent. Yet, in the USA's favour, France could probably never create a Solodnz or a Spike or even Ang, Lees. Wow, sorry, way off track. Nothing short of pathetic, sad and horrible, an attack on the furthering of intellectual reasoning - I am referring to that most common IMDb loser line "believe what you want, stop being a fascist with your opinions. Let ME love the film, blah, blah, wah-wah". Firstly, I hate the Greeks; Democracy is a farce. However, I do appreciate very much THE ANCIENT ART OF DIALECTIC. Meaning, TO CONVINCE THE OTHER OF YOUR ARGUMENT. Anyway, I am not telling yo how to read this film, interpret it, whether it is good or not or for you to like it or not. However, facts are facts, and it is a hoax. STOP BEING FOOLS and then insisting IN DENIAL, because you are ashamed that you were fooled by the hoax - I, your thought master, even I was fooled (for the shortest time). Learn to see the error of your ways and admit your faults, as your good master does :) Of course Banksy, Shephard and "Thierry Guetta" would only make a farce with this subject matter. Grow up.

*My first reply caught me jumping into my usual critique of post modernity, which as the hoax revealed itself, became irrelevant because at that point, Banksy was a step ahead. FANTASTIC FILM! Hard and a little boring to watch, until Guetta falls and starts his show of the worst manic depressive super ego ever invented. Art is mostly, extremely elitist. At least in terms of inclusion and distribution. And never before the post modern (epoch) was there achieved the despicable, nauseating level of commodification in and of the art world. I am sure 'Exit Through . . .' and Banksy agree, at least somewhat. Would Thierry Guetta ? :)

PS. This is the favourite part of my first review:

I've been calling (read hoping) for the end of the popularity of post modernism for as long as I can remember. Instead of being an epoch and /or movement in art in which paradigms are challenged, or even intelligence propagated, the exact opposite has happened and is happening, until it seems, we are all bludgeoned out of our senses. Bashed about by copies of a copy of a copy, as though that were some interesting study, in . . .? Wacked in the face by retards . . . smashing us into believe or feel that we are nothing more than consumers. Consumers of junk. Non-intellectual, anti intellectual, soulless and soul sucking, junk. For me, at least, that is NOT an intelligent way to make a (million) buck, and it certainly has nothing to do with art.

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http://www.woostercollective.com/2010/10/one_to_watch_david_polands_dp30_on_exit.html

The interview is a hoax!

Nah, I don't think so.




-Henrik,have we established pathos?
-Perfectly Herr Doctor. And all this in one take!

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why not?

I sway on this, (haven't thought about it since these posts - I let it all go to an email created to receive spam).

Why must you, smart enough, also put a quote at the end? All the internet losers who write "troll" and "lol" do that too.
Of course everyone here has a certain amount of pathos - it just takes the more honest ones like me to show it ALL.

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this is some of the worst stuff i've read in a long, long time. I wouldn't be bothered to post anything except for the matter that you seem to get such a kick out of yourself. It does read as Psuedo-Intellectual. and Arrogant.

The fact that you think what you have written here is an act of "mental-dexterity" is almost funny. It comes off as a bad case of ADHD. Studies have shown that those who multitask have a much higher chance of performing each task less effectively, and not only that but those who do multitask have a high opinion in their ability to do so as well.
If you saw my girlfriend texting while driving you might think it was an act of genius!

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Wow, I've never seen such a pathetic pseudo-intellectual. So you watched 37°2 EXTENDED and... what, we're supposed to praise you for sitting through an (awesome) long movie ? Nevermind that it's probably the longest thing you ever saw. Ever heard of Heimat ? Das Boot ? Greed ? Abel Gance's Napoléon ? No ? Then shut the **** up.

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I don't get it?
Did you study my profile to attack me?
The joke is on you.
Is that THE list? Yes, THE definitive list. You f * * * ing a r se hole.
I've seen Das Boot, maybe another one there. Greed? Which year? I guess the oldest one. Yeah, yeah. You win, no, sincerely. Academic, navel gazing, film history, you win.

I prefer more contemporary films - if I were to watch everything I may ever want to, I would start from present going back. My personal preference is aesthetically based, and I am 100% aware that it is greatly due my milieu, my age, my history, etc. I make no effort to be something that I am not - I cannot say whether that is your case. You are as f * * * ed up as they come though.
I never imagined this - some total loser, taking so much offence that he attacks me on the basis of drivel, of researching my "profile", trying to use a term against me, solely because I have used it a few times. You realise that you are the loser right? Researching me to criticise me. Haven't you seen that film?

I criticise people on the basis of a comment, and respond to the comment. Criticising them by researching them, Zeuxippe, on the basis of their film tastes is purely insane and demented. I would love to meet you, just to beat the crap out of you for attacking me for the sake of attacking, and dare you to tell me to shut the f * * * up. Where and when shall we!?
If you are gonna research me, learn post haste that I am happy to be attacked if it is with intelligence. You have zero idea about me, and you obviously have zero grasp of what is pseudo. I would never hate anybody here, only what they've written. IF I am, or can be low, you are the lowest.
Note one thing, I actually have no claim or desire to be a FILM intellectual - most of my posts are politically inspired. Go and sit in your hole, looking at your belly, and lording your film history - it makes no sense the extraordinary neuroses and insecurity you attack with here.

37°2 extended is a very long film, and it is a purely emotional trip, something I need/ed as I do live far too much in the realm of the intellect. Probably only because I was very young too, it's always good if I can do ANYTHING in life without analysing, Betty Blue gave me that, as a surprise. Yes, you complete non-intellectual f *** er, I would and have openly criticised myself - the modern, short, attention span - I was unfortunately raised by tv. Yet I have surpassed that, you certainly have not surpassed any childhood sickness.
37°2 is a very long film, even for people with good attention spans, and I said it purely as respect for the film, NOT that I was showing off for being able to watch a long film. ?? Only your pathetic mind, and insecurity, could project that terrible idea.
I am not interested in film history, I don't care if any more films are made or if I watch them - yes, I prefer that good films will be made, with intelligence as well as entertainment in mind.
So, Zeuxippe keeping European fascism strong hey :)
Do you like Betty Blue? Are you capable of emotions or just trying to prove you are more holy and know more about films?

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Queerever, either the hallucinogens are starting to kick in or the sobriety is taking hold, but you speak some limber truths.

I know what you mean about being mesmerized by post-modern footwork, while simultaneously wanting to smash it with a sledge. Every fedora-wearing trust-funder with a "big idea" born out of wasting away another unemployed day on dad's dime might emerge in tomorrow's gallery - either as occupant, proprietor or constructor. It's dicey news. I really do enjoy some of the fruits of the movement: David Foster Wallace's essays on Americana (before the shotgun..whose report I considered might be the death toll for the entire movement), DeLillo's gorgeous and sensitive/sensual language (yes P-M can be those things), Pynchon's adventures - a kind of Banksy-with-a-typewriter. Einstein On The Beach. Jazz in its later configurations. And street art, but as some others have mentioned in that enormous forum thread (you know the one), that particular movement has been churning for many years.

You know, one of the things that rubs my fur wrong about this whole thing is the films continuous insistence that it documents the "birth" of a movement. Bullpucky. To say 2007 was the birth of the art galleries taking notice of this stuff, or the birth of even the so-called low-brow art movement where MBW would perhaps be placed (except most of the other artists actually touch the damn things they create) is preposterous. It's been going. It waxes and wanes.

The film performs the task that was emboldened by the Situationists...it reconfigures spaces & observes & interacts with the psychogeography of the city. We watch it and our own inner cities become populated with street imagery, douchebags, geniuses and frauds. I wholeheartedly 100% believe it is a hoax, but an exquisite one. Many seem to take this point of view as a grand insult to the film & its players but they're missing the point. When I listen to the sometimes guarded slights utter by all of Guetta's buddies - he's a retard, he has no talent, etc... - I see either a Rube Goldberg-type conspiracy machine that pours coffee into a cup, or just a few BS-artists working the crowd nicely, by doing what Banksy always does, by doing what the Situationists did: leave a thread a match and a drop of lighter fluid and let the minds of the population do the rest.

Besides...I like the film as a hoax.

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yeah people who can't figure out this movie is a mockumentary are morons.

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Gee, all the people who are saying "HOAX" are rude people who call everyone else names. Makes me not want to side with them.

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Dude,

I don't wanna be cruel. This movie is a doc, but whatever, I just wanna say that (based on your rambling and nearly unintelligible rantings, that you should sincerely look inside yourself and consider the possibility of a deeper neurological disorder. I've had friends with aspergers syndrome and adhd, and if you act in real life as you do in this thread (adn others) then you should be concerned. If you are just a know-it-all teenager or early twenty pretentious type guy, then maybe you can mature and fill your life with better things. Honestly though man, take a look at what you just wrote. Really read it. Is that something a sane person would write?

I know it's cool to have a lot of replies and be first and everything, but for real. I could have said what you did in 10 lines, tops.

And, your wrong. I already commented on another thread about why your wrong, so I won't bother, but it's silly, kid's stuff, what your talking about. good luck, man. I hope you find people in your life who can help you be a more coherent person.

These are my guns, Sir. -The Salton Sea

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This OP is 100% unreadable opinionated dreck, nothing more. OP comes off like a narcassistic tool. I mean holy wall of text, dude. How difficult is it to get the exact same point across, to articulate the exact same rant in ONE paragraph without coming across like someone with serious neurosis??

Oh... and look... nasdaq in another thread calling non-hoaxers morons. How original.

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The hoax is a hoax. Don't you get it? If you're too dumb to figure it out you're in denial. Just wait till Mythbusters get onto this.

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