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I just don't care anymore

posted 8 years ago by swills25
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This show made me want to be a TV screenplay writer. Seasons 1-4 were to me, magic. Like, the entire point of television. They have destroyed everything I loved about this show. There is no self awareness for any of the characters anymore, they're just parodies of their former selves.

Compare Fiona from season 1. The speech she gave to Monica about raising the kids? Emmy (no pun intended) worthy. Her reaction when Monica steals the squirrel fund? Fantastic. The scene when monica tries to kill herself? So good. Now? There is nothing redeeming about Fiona. I just feel like she is incredibly dumb, inexperienced and naive with no solid traits to her name to make up for the stupidity.She's the girl who thinks she knows everything and knows nothing now.

Ian's bipolar and borderline obsession with Mickey was skated over and tied up so cleanly it was like a bad ad for anti depressants.

Debbie. I can't even. I remember the episode where the "hot girls" put ketchup on her chair at the pool and she cried in the bathroom and Fiona and her had that talk.... to this? Every scene she is in, I cringe. I was almost hoping they'd kill her off at some point post pregnancy last season.

Lip has gone so far to each side of the spectrum so many times, it's just not interesting anymore. He was a street rat, then he was a genius. Then he was a street rat, then he got into MIT. Then he was a kid who couldn't pass an English exam, to a kid who was the pillar of student behavior. Then he was a raging alcoholic who didn't care about school, then he was obsessed with a teacher. Now he's left school for good, but he's an intern? Stop. It's so old.

Carl's transition has been the best, I thought last season was awesome for him... but the actor isn't too solid so it kills a lot of that character's potential.

Vee and Kevin are legit cartoons at this point. I don't even watch when they're on.

Will Macy is the only solid part left. No Sheila, no Karen, No Mandy, no Mickey, no Jimmy. It all feels incredibly hollow. This season feels brutal to me and as a fan from the beginning who has legitimately cried during certain episodes, it's disheartening as fvck.

[–] LittleLadyToday 8 years ago

I agree about Vee and Kevin, I fast forward their parts.

[–] twist_of_fate_04 8 years ago

yeah, it's not the same. there's always the chance they'll redeem themselves and some deep season 4-esque *beep* could go down.. but I doubt it.

[–] hollywood-54751 8 years ago

I agree with you on some areas. There is nothing like Shameless seasons 1-4, absolutely excellent show!!!!
As for this season I don't feel like Fiona feels like she knows everything, I feel like she knows nothing (as far as her personal life) and is in a state of I don't care because nothing I've been doing thus far has worked out for me.
I 100% agree with you on Ian (bipolar & Mickey) being skated over, I expected way more from that season 6.
Lip struggling in college I get because he never tried in high school it just came naturally to him and college is NOTHING like high school but yea how are you an intern after being expelled from college and not attending anymore.
Debbie's's s/l I'm not disliking because it's entertaining but it's soooo far from what I expected from her.
I HATE Kev and Vee's s/l, they are the one solid couple we have here. The writers could have found another dilemma for them to deal with.
I'm loving Carl's evolution as well.
And Frank, lol, will always be Frank.

[–] hoyagirl05 8 years ago

Lip struggling in college I get because he never tried in high school it just came naturally to him and college is NOTHING like high school but yea how are you an intern after being expelled from college and not attending anymore.

The place where he is interning does not seem like the most ethical of places... Who knows the background of the other people who are working there?

[–] hollywood-54751 8 years ago

Very good point

[–] i_like_ickes 8 years ago

You're so right. Imagine if they tried airing another deep, moving, dramatic episode now. The show has such an air of farce about it now that anything meaningful would seem forced.

[–] Karasuu 8 years ago

I completely agree

Its like this show turned into a sitcom or something. I feel like there aren't any serious moments anymore. Everything is just a laugh.

I also hate how they keep destroying the house and not really giving a *beep* Remember the days when the kids actually had chores and you can see the family struggle to keep the house ? Now they just piss in sinks, break apart ceilings, throw garbage everywhere. Noone seems to give a crap. I just don't get it.

I also hate how Carl is basically the only one who is going to school (who would've ever thought that!). the old debbie would have a found a way to be a teen mom and go to school (or just never become a teen mom in the first place). Now Debbie is just plain stupid. She no longer seems like that smart girl.

I also agree about kev and V. Remember when they used to have their *beep* together and have semi serious storylines? Yeah now they live in a sex crazed house with three toddlers. Its like a jacked up version of threes company.

[–] RSUPPLIES2 8 years ago

The show has run it's course. Time to wrap it up and end it.

[–] Grey-Phantom 8 years ago

This show made me want to be a TV screenplay writer. Seasons 1-4 were to me, magic.

That's how I felt when I started watching Desperate Housewives!!

Season 1-6 were awesome. 7 was bleh. 8 is when it ended and I'm glad it didn't sink any lower.

You should watch that show if you haven't already

[–] ShadowOfTheWave 8 years ago

I don't care about what's going on currently, but I still care about the characters therefore I will continue to watch, because the potential is there. I feel like the show has lost too many characters, and too many character dynamics.

[–] Jaybone23 8 years ago

I never really liked the show. It had its moments in the first season, and I figured it was worth keeping an eye on, but it ultimately never won me over. I can see why it might be a good primer on how to right a complex TV show. But ultimately I never cared about any of the characters. I watched the most recent episode from the current season, and it just seems an excuse to show nudity and have every character get laid. Also, William H. Macy actually seems an afterthought. While his stories have often had the most interesting elements, he's long been on the sidelines. Not to mention, the show doesn't resemble any kind of reality. At all.