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I would always choose KEEP

posted 12 years ago by vnse
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Here are the possible outcomes:

1. KEEP KEEP
2. KEEP SHARE
3. SHARE KEEP
4. SHARE SHARE

No matter what I do I have two possible outcomes, I get some money or I get no money.

If I choose SHARE, the best I can hope for is that my partner also chooses share and the most I can do is win $125K. But there is also a chance my partner chooses KEEP in which case I get nothing.

If I choose KEEP, worst that happens is my partner chooses KEEP as well and we end up with nothing. But if I choose SHARE and the partner chooses KEEP I also end up with nothing.

The game is really out of the player's hands and your result (win money, win nothing) is determined by your partner. So really there is no incentive for anyone to ever choose SHARE and all the incentive for the player to choose KEEP.

[–] tigerlily_86 12 years ago

That's exactly why things like loyalty and personal relationships come into play. How much do you trust your partner, and how selfish do you think your partner really is? It's not just about what you want, there's also strategy involved in how well you've gotten to know your partner and their character. Everyone was saying that Nick will split the money with Rachel because he's a "nice guy." Well ... he might be a nice guy, but he was a nice guy who was ultimately there to win for himself. Rachel's downfall was that she dismissed Nick as a "nice guy" and didn't take him seriously enough as a contestant in the game. She didn't get to know him enough to figure out that winning the money was THE most important thing to him.

[–] the_a_buser 12 years ago

Rachel's downfall was also that she stopped playing the game before the final buzzer sounded. Like some of the guys said last night, it's a game. The fact that she just assumed she'd get $125K once the rest of the group voted for her and Nick show's her head was never in the game. Don't get me wrong, I'd be pissed if I was in her position, but ultimately she got beat fare and square (at least according to BP rules.)

[–] vnse 12 years ago

"She didn't get to know him enough to figure out that winning the money was THE most important thing to him. "

And it wouldn't have mattered if she did figure it out. It was still in her best interest to choose KEEP no matter what.

[–] tigerlily_86 12 years ago

Correct, but she analyzed both the game and her partner incorrectly and took her head out of the game. People on this show pick "share" because they have complete faith in their partner to do the same and therefore figure that they're basically guaranteed to walk away with some money. Rachel's faith in Nick was misplaced.

[–] vnse 12 years ago

"Correct, but she analyzed both the game and her partner incorrectly and took her head out of the game. People on this show pick "share" because they have complete faith in their partner to do the same and therefore figure that they're basically guaranteed to walk away with some money. Rachel's faith in Nick was misplaced."

If he chooses KEEP, like he did, whether she chooses KEEP or SHARE leads to the same result...she gets nothing. Only difference is does he get something or does he get nothing. But for her, it's immaterial. She ends up with no money.

That's my point. It is in your interest to choose KEEP no matter what. Worst that happens is you both get nothing. Best case is you win the $250K. There is no downside for you whatsoever in choosing KEEP.

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[–] supadude2004 12 years ago

Let's not forget what Michael Stagliano says about Nick's play in Michael's latest blog entry:

"if I am really honest with myself… It is one hell of a play. And he played that part of the game brilliantly.

BUT… Two things get brushed under the rug when you look at it from that angle, and it is really important that it doesn’t get ignored. First, Rachel has to pick SHARE… Think about that for a second. No matter what Rachel said about wanting to leave, not wanting to be Nick’s partner… when she went into that deliberation room and picked SHARE… That is her actions (of which in her case especially, often speak louder than words) saying, “I trust him, he is my partner, he DOES deserve to be here and to WIN.” Nick’s decision to KEEP betrays that, and that sucks. Secondly, there is just an element of GREED here that I simply cannot ignore. I think it is ugly, inconsiderate and can’t personally EVER imagine doing that to someone. Here is why:

At the very least Nick knows he is getting $125,000 and will be the co-winner of Bachelor Pad. He knows Rachel has gone through hell and back again, ultimately went AGAINST what she wanted to do in taking Ed and Jaclyn into the finale, and that keeping the money for himself would crush her… I just can’t comprehend doing that to someone. If I had the chance to give someone $125,000… I would. I think there is a valuable lesson in putting someone else’s needs before yours that Nick does NOT GET… Sure, Nick doesn’t “owe it” to Rachel… But, I just don’t think that is how men/humans should act. I really don’t."

[–] Charlie_Runkle69 9 years ago

I think you can do one of two things. You can either take the 250k, but be nice about it, or you can have your rant, get it all out, and then share. Nick made the correct decision IMO in keeping, but the way he rubbed it in Rachels' face was pretty classless.