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Um, a fitness model AND drug addict????

posted 12 years ago by knowledgeofafter
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Chris Evans is awesome. He's talented, and from what I've read in articles, a decent person; however, this is *beep* No denying, he looks fantastic...but he's playing an out of control drug addict. Um, so btn lines of coke, smokes of crack and endless drinking he's working out?

This would not have come to my attention had he not be very purposefully shirtless for half the film. It's a shame because the movie is telling a great story but blatantly portraying that massive drug addicts have fantastic bodies is irresponsible at best.

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[–] Grizzly101 12 years ago

I've known a few people who used drugs - marijuana and harder stuff - and some of them are ripped like Chris Evans and others are flabby layabouts. So from what I've seen drug users come from all walks of life and have all body-types, including athletic.

There are no problems that cannot be solved with a can of brake clean and a lighter

[–] past_tyme 12 years ago

I just saw an interview where he was asked about it, and he said that he had stopped walking out while he was filming. Of course, he still looks fantastic. But stop working out and naturally letting the body change itself doesn't work for portraying certain characters in a film since you have to get into a certain physical look once you play the character. And then he laughed and said that he couldn't look good in the interview after saying that. And then he talked about how the real guy was actually kinda chubby, which is how he got away with no one knowing he had a massive drug addiction. But that still doesn't explain the ripped muscles. He should have looked flabby, not fit. And even though people like that do exist, it does make it seem like he's not as committed to portraying the character. Notice in London, he's also a very fit drug addict. I take it as Evans can't commit himself to large body transformations either because of vanity purposes and currently commitment to Captain American and Avengers for the next 10 years. It'd be very difficult on him in between films.

[–] actusreus13 12 years ago

Forget the fantastic body, a much bigger problem is the amount of drugs his character was portrayed to be doing. He would be physically, physiologically, and psychologically incapable of functioning at the most basic level, let alone functioning as a practicing attorney. I understand that filmmakers like to embellish things for a bigger effect, but what was shown in the film was beyond ridiculous. Anyone who has ever had any experience with cocaine, crack, or hardcore painkillers, NOT COMBINED, knows that each of these drugs, individually, has a dramatic adverse effect on a person's cognitive ability. The idea that an attorney could maintain his mental acuity for a prolonged period of time constantly combining all these extremely powerful drugs that alter brain functions is preposterous. Doubtless, there are high-functioning addicts in the legal profession (or any other profession for that matter), but at a much more subtle level. That portrayal was nothing short of annoying.

[–] clankinweights 12 years ago

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[–] Mr_Blonde_Vic_Vega 12 years ago

As an ex-addict of coke and all types of opiates, I have to completely disagree with your entire post. Many addicts of hardcore painkillers actually function at a much higher level than they ever did without the drugs. The turbulence from these types of drugs comes when you don't have them. So basically, they don't have a problem with drugs, they have a problem without drugs.

As for coke/crack. It appears that most of his use of these drugs comes at night. It perfectly reasonable that he could get high every night on coke, then wake up in the morning, shoot some H and be perfectly normal. Even doing coke/crack during the day would allow one to function at a very high level when it is smoothed out with opiates.

The portrayal of drugs that most people know through movies is completely false. Movies tend to show only worst case scenarios. They always show people hitting rock bottom, which to many, never happens. They always portray heroin addicts as comatose and drooling. For the most part, that is un-realistsic. Yes, it happens, but it's controllable. There are so many high functioning people who are hardcore addicts, that people would have no idea that they are. I worked in sales and none of my co-workers or bosses had any idea that I was a hardcore addict. I functioned at a very high level, consistently ranking towards the top of the sales board every month. The manager of the dealership was a hardcore addict, as well....and still is, I believe. This is a man working 60-70 hours a week, dealing with hundreds of customers and making about $250k a year. Other than myself and a couple other people, no one has a clue that this man is a hardcore addict.

Most movie portrayals of drugs are highly inaccurate, this movie was much closer to reality.

Here I am, stuck in the middle with you.

[–] actusreus13 12 years ago

Disagree all you want, and I agree with some of your statements, but as someone who has some experience with opiates, and an attorney, I simply call the portrayal in the film absolutely absurd. Sure people can be addicts and function, but not with the amount of drugs he was shown to be ingesting and shooting up. Even assuming physically he was the Superman and his body didn't crash, his cognitive abilities would be so low that he would not be able to function as an attorney for that long.
You might have been able to function ok in sales, but functioning well as an attorney is an entirely different matter. High-functioning addicts can maintain their jobs and go unnoticed because they know how to walk the line between doing drugs and maintaining enough mental acuity to perform their jobs day after day. He'd be a zombie with a daily regimen like that. I believe he was an addict, but not that he was daily consuming all the drugs as depicted in the film and looked like a specimen of health.

[–] jtfriday2000 12 years ago

Disagree all you want, and I agree with some of your statements, but as someone who has some experience with opiates, and an attorney, I simply call the portrayal in the film absolutely absurd. Sure people can be addicts and function, but not with the amount of drugs he was shown to be ingesting and shooting up. Even assuming physically he was the Superman and his body didn't crash, his cognitive abilities would be so low that he would not be able to function as an attorney for that long.
You might have been able to function ok in sales, but functioning well as an attorney is an entirely different matter. High-functioning addicts can maintain their jobs and go unnoticed because they know how to walk the line between doing drugs and maintaining enough mental acuity to perform their jobs day after day. He'd be a zombie with a daily regimen like that. I believe he was an addict, but not that he was daily consuming all the drugs as depicted in the film and looked like a specimen of health.

This movie was based on a true story. Chris Evans' character was based on a real life drug addicted lawyer who looked like a normal guy to friends and family who didn't know he did drugs. Not everyone who does coke is a drooling, runny nosed crackhead.

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[–] actusreus13 12 years ago

It's not his addiction I take issue with, but the way it was portrayed in the film, specifically the NON-STOP intake of drugs and alcohol while being completely unimpaired cognitively and physically. Here's a quote from my very post you responded to:

"I believe he was an addict, but not that he was daily consuming all the drugs as depicted in the film and looked like a specimen of health."

[–] jtfriday2000 12 years ago

Ok then. That part I agree with.
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[–] hoboboxerjoe 10 years ago

Ok, so you're going to disagree with the FACTS of not only the real-life usage of the real-life person Chris Evans portrayed, but also now TWO EX ADDICTs (myself and the other poster) telling you we could and would mix those levels of drugs, do them on that level, and stay high-functioning?

It seems to be you're more concerned about you being right than finding out what is actually right.

[–] smigrobustus 11 years ago

I know you'll Get people disagreeing with you, but EVERYTHING you said is the truth. The stereotypical port rate of a heroin addict, one that 99% of people think is accurate, is *beep*

It IS amazing what people can do under the influence of drugs. I think most people think of drug intoxication as similar to getting drunk......but I can tell you that alcohol is one of the most difficult drugs to function under, at least for me

[–] CDM_moviereviewer 8 years ago

Well said. This is/was an unfortunate reality for a friend of mine. He does not drink or do any type of drugs anymore and is less active in life. I have never met such a high functioning, most successful social drug user Lol

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[–] katalist420 12 years ago

You would be surprised....

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[–] Manos723 12 years ago

Totally possible.

[–] snes4u 12 years ago

Irresponsible? Hardly.

Why should we cover up the fact that drugs give you a great body? Everyone who knows anything knows that if you do hard drugs, you do not even have to exercise at all. There is no denying the truth.

[–] alexarkin 11 years ago

Have to agree with the OP. It's especially distracting in the first half of the movie.
While on the one hand Chris Evans brings enough star power to reel viewers in, and actually acts pretty well, no amount of bad fake tattoos and facial hair will mask his great physique, which for this particular character is completely misplaced.
Decent movie though. Great supporting cast.