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Detroit 1-8-7, how to ruin a good idea for a show


How can you ruin a good idea? The easy answer is making a show called Detroit 1-8-7. The premise is good, you take a city which is being over run with crime and do a television show about a Homicide unit.

Now I understand using artistic license, most detectives do not have extensive wardrobes and such and news flash, there are more than six homicide detectives in Detroit. You do not turn off the lights when you go home. You are on a rotation-shift basis. When you go home, the next crew comes into work. There are some call in's, but the truth is, that big breaking case which happens when you are off, means that you are not taking the lead. All of that, I can look past. What I can’t look past is the why the series ended up.

Unlike the detectives of Detroit 1-8-7, all of these scenes they are getting called out to; do not get wrapped up by the end of the show. You never seem to see the case load everyone has to carry and try and clear. Again, I can get past that.

What I am having a problem with is this whole Albert Stram/Detective Fitch story line. You see what happens in a lot of cases, the detectives can figure out who the killer is, but the big part of the picture which the TV show leaves out is going to trial. What good is it arresting someone, if they are simply going to walk out the door the next day because the prosecutor doesn’t have enough to go to trial with, or there are problems with your victim/witness/case?

One of the big things left out of the show is how the detective has to get the witnesses into court to testify. Just like Detective Fitch, those witnesses have families and are threatened by people all of the time. As a police officer, we have to say to them that we can protect them and that testifying, even if it is dangerous for you is the right thing to do.

So after having to force many-many witnesses to do that (which the television show doesn’t care to tell in the story) as soon as Fitch is faced with a similar situation, he runs from responsibility. First by not telling the FBI about Stram’s contact and possible involvement in a murder, then their continued contact and threats as well as obstruction. Then the kicker where Fitch takes Stram into Canada and we are lead to believe kills him in a shoot out and finally how the detective squad covers that up to the FBI. (Just a side note, lying to a federal agent during an investigation is a felony.)

So how can Fitch continue to be a detective? Unless the suspect walks in and writes out his confession, how can Fitch tell someone that they need to go into open court, raise their hand and say, “He did it”? Not just that, I guess to add a dramatic effect to everything, you now have this homicide squad committing crimes.

The truth is the squad will not solve every homicide. Every case is not wrapped up in a nice pretty bow at the end. There are some cases that will not be solved. There are some people that get away with murder. What shouldn’t happen is that those who go after the bad guys shouldn’t cross over to breaking the laws to get it get a “win”. That is how you ruin a good idea.

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You claim to understand Artistic license, but you forget one major thing at the end. Allowing for the good guys to win and wrap up 90% of the episodes with a "storybook" happy ending is what hollywood is all about. If people want to watch a story that is completely realistic they have this thing called reality television, and oddly enough there's even one about cops, it's called COPS. The reason these things are wrapped up in a nice neat little package at the end of each episode is because it is a tried and tested format that appeals to the American populace, because to put it simply whether or not we all truly do everyone wants to believe that our police are the great crime-fighters who are out there solving cases every day and protecting lives left and right.

As a Michigander this show gives me both a pride in the fact that our television business is moving forward and helping to create jobs for local residents (given that a close personal friend of mine was the "perp" in one episode I can attest to the fact that they did use our citizens in these shows) and portrays the DPD in a kind light given that I have friends who are from the city and not everyone looks so kindly on the officers.

You yourself sound like you may be an officer, and I mean no disrespect to you or any other officer with my comments, but just like any Crime-drama people like to see cases closed when they are watching on television, and they like to see them closed in entertaining way.

As far as a detective killing a suspect, well I know that if someone were to murder a member of my family I would be grateful to a cop for putting a bullet in him for the simple fact that there are times when murderers go to court and still end up getting out of jail. Bible states an eye for an eye so could you truly say that Fitch was morally wrong in that matter?

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Thanks for making a very good case about the show and reality, this is a great show and though I have only been to the Detroit as a child, my father was born there and he was always proud to have been. This is a wonderful show and I love the balance they show, not all shows have to have 1 minority to complete the picture.

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If I wanted "not every story has to have a happy, neatly wrapped up ending" I'll read the newspapers or watch the 11 o'clock news. There's enough of that in reality. I didn't take D.187 to follow real life to the letter. This isn't a reality show. I expect and want the scripted, neat ending to cases.

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Have you guys ever heard of a slight suspension of reality? In this day and age we cannot even rely on the news to be factually correct...

The show is trying to bring in a new aspect on what is an old genre that has been killed to death. But if you are watching a one hour crime show and expect them to to show the crime, the evidence and how they go about solving it, well my friends there is no such show that even goes close to showing anything near the truth.

Having said that, this show reminds me of The First 48,(great show), In its gritty fly on the wall style but they do have to package it into something we can watch in an hour.

Cannot question the production qualities other than the shaky reality style gives me the *beep* after 5 minutes...

I do have to say I am so glad to see Michael Imperioli back on the telly, loved him in Sopranos as well as his coming of age direction in episodes. I will reserve further judgement until I watch more episodes as this show has only graced our screens in Australia on free to air for 2 weeks.But I do love what I see...

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I do have to say I am so glad to see Michael Imperioli back on the telly, loved him in Sopranos as well as his coming of age direction in episodes. I will reserve further judgement until I watch more episodes as this show has only graced our screens in Australia on free to air for 2 weeks.But I do love what I see...

Robinoz, keep watching because it's only going to get better. I read on the internet that D-187 was premiering on tv in Australia this Spring. This show mixes fiction with real life events that actually happened in Detroit. Keep your eyes peeled for the episode, "Shelter", which was episode #10. It was a story of two dead bodies from the 1967 Detroit riots, found in 2010, in a bomb-shelter that had been built in the '60s. The plot is the detectives finding out who these bodies were and the circumstances surrounding their death, where the 1967 riots had been the backdrop. The aftermath of the '67 riots was the beginning of Detroit becoming the decayed, broken town that it is now known for.

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The trouble was, you had this fictional "documentary" about Detroit homicide detectives...While, on A&E, you have The First 48 Hours, which is a real documentary and often highlights actual Detroit homicide detectives.

It made Detroit 1-8-7 seem all the more phony.

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