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Why didn't the cops analyze the sperm?


It was seen that Louise used Victor's sperm to rape Valerie, however it didn't occur to the cops that they can analyze the sperm found in the body to find the killer (not only on Valerie but also on all the other victims). Victor could be charged with the murder on Valerie while Spencer with all the other murders.

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DNA tests don't fall out of the sky. They'd need Victor's sample, and since he's not exactly a suspect yet..although I agree to the point that it's kinda weird they bring in the "sperm" line and it doesn't get anywhere. On the other hand, the real world isn't exactly CSI neither, so in that sense it's not overly weird that they don't go after Victor..

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I totally disagree, that would have been the first thing they did no matter what. He lives in the building and since there was a serial killer loose the DNA would have solved everything up to a point, they even went further, and did not search much for evidence in some of the apartments.

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Well was there sperm in the other victims
Imagine they would check to make sure its not a copycat..sense the other people were killed outside.
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If the police ask someone for a DNA sample, is it mandatory that people have to give it?

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I think it's open to interpretation whose sperm she actually used... She is seen with Victor, (which is possibly a fantasy sequence being that it cuts back to Louise in the bathtub right afterwards) but she is also seen putting her hair up as if she was about to blow Spencer. So it is entirely possible she used Spencer's sperm. It is also possible that the cops DID analyze it and that's why they were absolutely sure it was him when Victor called them. Otherwise, why wouldn't Roland have questioned Victor after he killed Spencer?

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***Spoilers in my post***

Exactly. And in my interpretation, she had second thoughts about making Victor a possible suspect which is why she went to seduce Spencer. At that point, she thought that Spencer really was confined to a wheelchair, so she would have felt it was safer to use his sperm, since he couldn't possibly be a suspect, because there was no way for him to get to the upper floor.



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That's absurd. It's not remotely possible she used Spencers'. First, putting hair up doesn't = bj. And, Spenecer wasn't remotely interested and, she thought he was paralyzed. No way. Also not feasible that the sex scene with Victor was fantasy. Absolutely nothing to suggest it was. No clue why being in a tub would suggest it was a fantasy. On the contrary, it supports that it happened. She wanted a bath to get him off her after sex.

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by JRawkSteady »
I think it's open to interpretation whose sperm she actually used... She is seen with Victor, (which is possibly a fantasy sequence being that it cuts back to Louise in the bathtub right afterwards) but she is also seen putting her hair up as if she was about to blow Spencer. So it is entirely possible she used Spencer's sperm. It is also possible that the cops DID analyze it and that's why they were absolutely sure it was him when Victor called them. Otherwise, why wouldn't Roland have questioned Victor after he killed Spencer?


**Warning-The post below is abounds with SPOILERS**

Ding! Ding! Ding! The above quoted post is the answer regarding the sperm/DNA/analysis question, IMO..

I definitely saw it as a way of keeping the audience in the dark til the very final scene of the movie as to "who" exactly it was that Louise chose to "side with" vs. "bury as the serial killer"..

IMHO, I took the movies plotline to be fairly straightforward as to Louise having slept with NOT ONLY Victor, but ALSO Spencer as well..the obvious scene in Spence's apt where Louise tells him that the question "why?" is boring, and that instead Spencer should be asking her, "what's next?" (Ie.my interpretation was that obviously this scene led to her and Spencer hooking up).

Therefor, by the time Louise actually carries out her plotted plan of killing/raping Valerie with "someone's" semen we were not to know(at that point in time) exactly whose semen Louise decided to use.

I actually believe that this particular plot point was likely the most important, critical piece of the movie, and its this plot point that the entire final, climax scene is hinged upon as we watch it unfold.. The final act of the film in which we see Louise simultaneously plotting the other neighbor's demise, with none other than the "other neighbor"..well, we watch it, anticipating, as to exactly which one of the two "good neighbors" Louise is going to "side with"..

She "played" them both, perfectly..in fact Louise basically "played" every character, perfectly throughout the film in her quietly observing, studying, gleaning, plotting, AND planning as to how she would choose to use each of them for her own, personal gain(neighbors, cops, media, etc). And oh, how very close it came to Spencer having the opportunity to spill Louise's true nature to poor Victor(ie.that its none other than Louise who brutally slaughtered and then raped their bitchy, cat-hating neighbor, Valerie!). But as Victor is kicking Spencer off the fire escape to his death he tells Spence he knows everything he NEEDS to know about Louise(which, to me, seemed to insinuate that Victor already understood that Louise may indeed have been the one to kill Val, but, for him, this did not matter).

Though, again, this is all my own personal opinion and interpretation of the quirky way the movie played itself out with us, as the audience, being privy to the vast majority of the inner workings of all characters and their motives..yet, keeping us in the dark until the final, climax of the movie as to which "good neighbor" Louise chose to side with vs. bury(both figuratively and literally).

I thoroughly enjoyed this lil, indie flick, and do hate that some people absolutely insist on nitpicking, TO DEATH, any/every single movie they see(and sadly some don't even watch a film in its entirety before logging onto imdb and proceeding to rip&tear to shreds films of which they're not even qualified to be critiquing, good or bad, due to their not even watching the entire film they're giving their hate filled rant about).

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Just my little, ol' opinion about this lil' indie thriller that I actually quite enjoyed!!

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First of all, this takes place in 1995. So DNA analysis, while having of course been around a while, wasn't at the same level then as it is now.

Also, whose to say they didn't analyse the sperm? I am thinking they obviously did, knew it was not a match to previous samples found on victims and thus were keeping a close eye on everyone in the apartment building that had any kind of relationship at all with the cat killer.

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DNA testing used to be a slow, expensive process, taking months and costing tens of thousands of dollars.

At one point in the film, one of the newspaper headlines that Louise reads is "Apres Bernardo" or After Bernardo (Paul Bernardo). While DNA evidence was eventually used to identify Bernardo it was not the first thing done by the police. Because it was expensive and time-consuming.

Now, DNA testing can be done in a matter of days for a couple hundred dollars.

That wasn't the case during the time frame shown in the movie and it may be why they chose that time period as the setting.

DNA is the standard now, wasn't then.

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I think things just happened so fast, they never got to it in the remainder of the movie.

I think her actions (to "sperm" her victim with Victor's stuff) was just to show that each were wacko in their own way, and basically ready to frame any one else for what they did.

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That is a pretty good conclusion. It did grind me that the sperm never came up, but I suppose the outcome of the duel either way left no chances...

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